[Grades] Grades v. Wolves 3/16/2014

Poll

  • Aardvark!

    Votes: 4 13.3%
  • Fresh squeezed legumes

    Votes: 3 10.0%
  • Onamonapia

    Votes: 2 6.7%
  • Rhododendrum

    Votes: 2 6.7%
  • 13,217

    Votes: 3 10.0%
  • Yep

    Votes: 1 3.3%
  • Nope

    Votes: 2 6.7%
  • Maybe

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Warp speed Mr. Sulu

    Votes: 9 30.0%
  • ...

    Votes: 4 13.3%

  • Total voters
    30
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#1


Alright, so all those 0 and whatever without Cuz, 0 and whatever when Isaiah shoots 20+ shots stats moved another tick tonight, but it was closer than that, largely due to Derrick Williams, I think for the 2nd time in 3 tries vs. Minny this year, trying to make Wolves fans regret losing him. Just had nobody to handle him, and he put up big stats in not so big minutes. Isaiah hit a couple of hero threes int he last minute that unfortunately will probably just encourage him, but we sniffed around, and just didn't quite make the plays again.

Meanwhile one of our SGs put up another 26-4-4 night tonight, the other scored 19pts in 23min yesterday, and the one our braintrust preferred got outscored 31-4 tonight. And yet such has Ben's season been that you were watching the beatdown and going, well, hey that was a good play, there was some good defense there, good hustle Ben! and all the rest. But we had a chance to win, and we have now entered the go get a draft pick portion of the schedule as I think our loss tonight may have officially eliminated us from the playoffs. Yippee.

Let's go with Buddhist Rock Carvings for a theme. Been many busy little monks over the millennia.

Your Consoritum Graders tonight:
Bricklayer
Bajaden
Rainmaker
Capt. Factorial
MassacheusettsKingsFan


Boxscore

Stats: 26min 14pts (6-15, 0-1, 2-3) 6reb 2ast 0stl 1blk 3TO
Gay ( D ) -- Rudy Gay just wasn’t good tonight. It’s unfortunate, too, because had he given the Kings anything of value in this one we could be talking about a win right now. There was so much of this performance that I didn’t like, but the worst part may have been the overall lack of energy and effort. Maybe he was tired because of the back-to-back? Lets hope it was that. Offensively, there was a lot of forcing. Corey Brewer is a pretty good defender, sure, but this wasn’t just about Brewers defense. He was settling for jumpers, and when those weren’t falling he was forcing drives to the basket that just didn’t look like serious basketball shots. I don’t know how else to explain it. He was clearly driving for contact instead of driving to make the basket, and considering he only went to the line three times I’d say that didn’t work. He only had 3 turnovers, but it felt like more. A few little statistical indicators that he just didn’t have it tonight – He was blocked at the rim by Gorgui Dieng three times, and I mean blocked. We’re talking confidence killer-type blocks. Malone also only played him 26 minutes tonight, and in a game where the Kings were without DeMarcus Cousins … you’d certainly expect more than 26 minutes out of Gay. And the fact that Cousins didn’t play in this one highlights how bad Rudy was tonight, because the Kings needed him to step up and instead he stepped down. As poor as he was offensively, he wasn’t much better defensively. Brewer was running up and down the court all night and Gay just couldn’t keep up. He was getting beat in transition consistently, and while transition baskets aren’t always the matchups fault (because teammates need to pickup and help in those scenarios) Rudy just wasn’t getting back with any urgency. He had one big time block on Kevin Martin late in the game, so I’ll give him credit for that. Rudy Gay is a good basketball player, so even when things aren’t going for him you’re going to see those flashes of talent. We saw a few of those tonight. A nice And 1, a good-looking dunk, a few tough jumpers, but it just wasn’t nearly enough. A player of Rudy’s caliber is allowed to have games like this during a season. It’s bound to happen, but now he’s had two of these in a row. I’m sure he’s happy this road trip is over. --Mass

Feilai Grotto, China located in a grotto behind Lingyin Temple in Hangzhou, China, this popular tourist attraction features Buddhist carvings dating back to the 10th to 14th centuries A.D.

Stats: 19min 8pts (4-6, 0-0, 0-0) 5reb 1ast 1stl 0blk 2TO
Evans ( D- ) -- ***Disclaimer - if you look at the box score and do not read the grade write-up, the power forward grades will not make sense to you. Read the write up!*** Reggie Evans started the game with the primary defensive assignment on Kevin Love, and it did not go well at all. Evans was not particularly interested in guarding Love on the perimeter, and it showed. In addition to an early possession where Evans left Love completely alone on the perimeter forcing a rotation from IT which left Rubio open for a made three, Love made a total of three jumpers on Reggie on three attempts AND got fouled by a helping McLemore to make three free throws on another shot that Evans was not in position to contest. The post D wasn't any better, as Evans completely failed on a pick-and-roll, gave up an easy basket on a cut, and, on the first possession of the second half absolutely inexplicably...oh, let me just copy my notes: "JUST STRAIGHT UP LEFT HIM UNDER THE BASKET I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT HE WAS DOING". Mercifully, Evans was yanked with 7:30 left in the third and never saw the floor again on the night, after putting up an impressive defensive line against Love, allowing 17 point on 7 shots. I'm dead serious. Love missed zero FGs against Evans. So while Reggie had a decent offensive night - even once going coast-to-coast pushing the ball up Love's throat for a fast break dunk - there's simply no excusing his defense. We lost by two points. Even defense in the "pathetic" range would have had us up at the end. But Reggie was able to come in and lay down defense more in the "nuclear apocalypse atrocious" range, and hence, the grade. --Capt.

Swat Valley, Pakistan -- a number of ancient 7th-9th century carvings in the Swat Valley (i.e. trouble) in Pakistan are said by local archaeologists to be in danger. You see, they are currently being defaced. The most common form of defacement? Urination. The explanation? The locals who routinely hit and deface the sculptures say they have been told its virtuous to do so by their mullahs. Sigh. Meanwhile the government says its powerless to stop the idiot monkeys from throwing their feces because the sculptures are on privately held land. I should send them a brief I once wrote on eminent domain.

Stats: 19min 4pts (2-3, 0-0, 0-0) 4reb 1ast 1stl 1blk 1TO
Gray ( C ) -Figuring out what to give Gray is the hard part. When you figure that he did what he was supposed to do with the god given talent he has, its hard to be too harsh on him. He really only has one talent, and that's size. Everything else is just average or below average. So when he takes up space, grabs 4 rebounds and scores 4 points on 2 of 3 shooting, you almost have to say, "Well Done" ! Hell, he evern stole the ball once. His shot, which resembles a line drive floater, is very ugly looking, but two of them went in. He did make a very nice bounce pass to Evans for a basket and a assist. He surprised me to be honest. I thought at the time, wow, he has some hidden talent. But when he tried the same pass later in the game, it had a different result. I won't give you a blow by blow, because describing nothing doesn't really take many words. I'am feeling a little negative tonight. I finally get a chance to grade Cousins, and he doesn't play. You'll understand if its a bit of a letdown for me. I have other thoughts on Gray, but I'll keep them to myself. He seems like a nice guy.- --Baja

Udono-Iwaya, Japan an extensive series of carvings of Buddhist dieties in caves and cliff walls in Eastern Japan, the earliest carvings are dated at 806 A.D., the youngest appears to be some modern graffiti scratched with a knife saying "Tetsu was here".

Stats: 19min 4pts (2-4, 0-0, 0-0) 4reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
McLemore ( D+ ) -- got one score early, but Kevin was ligting him up again, and while fouls were an issue, more than anything else I felt like we just didn't want to play him in that matchup as he ended up sitting much of the first half. Started the third running the baseline and taking a pass from IT and hitting the jumper, but Kevin started scoring over him again. Wasn't getting blown by, just outsaavied. Drove inside and got swatted by Dieng, then went down the other way and got blown by by Rubio for the +1. That was enough to get him out of the game. Played better defense after returning in the 4th, and it helped that the refs weren't going for the cheap touch fouls Kevin always tries to create. Made a great offensive board in the final 25 seconds to save a possession and get us an extra three point attempt, but when we missed that too committed an offensive foul trying to come up with another one. Thought/assumed that Kevin had flopped on it, but no, Ben had legit pushed off. Still a good effort as he fouled out. And that was kind of the overall feel somehow. We lost the SG matchup 31-4. Our guy fouled out. And yet somehow it felt like a better effort. Might not be a compliment as it means expectations are cratering, but still just felt like a few little positives, and at the right time. --Brick

Seosan, South Korea -- Buddhist triad from the 6th to 7th century along a prominent pre-Korean/Chinese trade route.

Stats: 33min 26pts (11-21, 4-10, 1-2) 6reb 7ast 1stl 0blk 2TO
Thomas ( B- ) -- I'm beginning to think no one knows what to expect from Isaiah when he walks out on the floor, which version will show up, from game to game, half to half or quarter to quarter, whether it be fans, coaches or even Isaiah himself. Tonight was another example of the roller coaster which seems to go up and down without reason. Isaiah I thought started this one off well, shooting when it was there, going 2-4 for the quarter but more importantly looking for and setting up his teammates. As other members of the consortium have done occasionally, tonight I tracked how many passes which led to an assist opportunity Isaiah made tonight and the results weren't all that positive if we're being honest. In the 1st quarter when the ball was moving and Isaiah was looking to set guys up, I recorded 8 passes which could have led to an assist. That's good! Those opportunities however plummeted quickly going forward. In the 2nd quarter, Isaiah didn't register a single pass which was an assist opportunity. Actually, as good as he was in the 1st, he was just as bad in the 2nd. Shaky decision making. Came down, went baseline and Rubio fell down, raised up for the jumper, then made a beautiful pass right to Kevin Martin who went the other way and got two FT's. Passed the ball to Outlaw who had two defenders on him and resulted in a turnover. Why would you pass it right into a near double team? Then came down on a 3 on 2 break and dribbled right into the two defenders, losing the ball. The 3rd was also a mixed bag. In regards to the assist opportunities, he had a total of 3 in the quarter. One to Ben which was an assist on a corner 3 and two others to Rudy and Outlaw. What he did plenty of was shoot as his shot started dropping. Went 6-11 in the 3rd. Yes, he took 11 shots in the 3rd. At one point Isaiah took four straight pullup jumpers with 17 or more secs on the shotclock on four consecutive possessions. They were not good shots but they did fall. He started cooking from the field but froze out his teammates in the process. I personally don't think it's that great of a thing when our PG takes more pullup jumpers with 17+ secs on the shotclock in a quarter than creating assist opportunities for teammates. Had five quick pullups in the 3rd, only three assist opportunities. The 4th was also an up and down affair. Had two assist opportunities in the quarter, one to DWill, other to Acy. Subbed in late in the quarter but we again saw the shaky decision making. With 51 secs left and dribbling from the left wing to the right, Rubio literally just walked up and took the ball from him with no resistance. Just took his dribble right off him. On the other end, in a two point game, Isaiah decided to hack Rubio 25ft from the basket and send him to the FT line. Then he sought redemption by banging in back to back 3's in the final 15 secs. Added a FT. Struggled guarding Rubio much of the night who pretty much had any passing lane he wanted as Isaiah doesn't have the height or length to bother him. So why the B-? Because he started off pretty well in the 1st quarter and his streak in the 3rd kept us in the game. Those two stretches right there were B+/A- stretches. The rest however was considerably worse. Poor game management. Poor defense on Rubio. Did a poor job of setting up his teammates for scoring opportunities(only one assist opportunity to Rudy the entire night, which is inexcusable). His decision making down the stretch when the game was tight also left a lot to be desired.--Rain

Polonnaruwa, Sri Lanka -- one of the many carvings and statues in the ancient Sri Lankan palace of Polonnaruwa, capital of the island during the middle ages.
 
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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#2
Bench

Stats: 20min 7pts (3-5, 0-1, 1-1) 1reb 3ast 0stl 1blk 1TO
McCallum ( B ) -- Ray appears to be the one guy on this roster we can look at and say, "hey, he's learning and he's improving". First thing which stood out was his defense. When he checks in, the PG penetration against us tightens up. Something else which I see is he's getting more and more comfortable running the offense. Best way I would describe Ray tonight is steady, which IMO is a compliment and a trait which is sorely needed from the PG spot. He moved the ball. He didn't force bad shots other than one bad force. Had a few very nice passes to cutters with small windows to deliver and as his confidence grows, we're seeing flashes of above average vision. Had a great setup to DWill from the left baseline to DWill cutting down the right baseline which was a very tough pass to make and he not only saw the play developing but delivered the ball perfectly. Also saw his athleticism in the open court on a beautiful open-court finish, plus the foul. Right now Ray's development appears to be the only bright spot as we head towards the finish of the season. --Rain

Ajanta Caves, Maharashtra, India -- another reclining Buddha, one of about 30 Buddhist monuments inside a cliff/cave/temple complex in Western India popular amongst tourists.

Stats: 31min 6pts (2-6, 0-0, 2-3) 5reb 2ast 1stl 1blk 3TO
Thompson ( B+ ) -- ***Disclaimer - if you look at the box score and do not read the grade write-up, the power forward grades will not make sense to you. Read the write up!*** Well, apparently coming into this game I knew something that Coach Malone didn't, and that's that JT is a plus-plus defender against Timberwolves superstar Kevin Love. Inexplicably, Malone brought JT off the bench and had Reggie Evans on Love to start the game instead. And while JT got a few minutes guarding him in the first half, it wasn't until Evans was finally yanked from the game midway through the third that JT was finally given the primary assignment on Love. Just like in the past, this went really well. How well? In the 16-17 minutes that JT guarded Love, he was held to 0-5 shooting, 1 point, and 2 turnovers. Unfortunately, JT got poked in the eye (by Love, no less) with four minutes left in the game and the Timberwolves immediately went to Love - he scored on each of the next two possessions and had a total of 6 points down the stretch while JT was in the locker room. Doing a little bit of subtraction, in the 22-23 minutes that somebody else (Evans and Acy, mostly) was covering Love, he shot 9-10 from the floor and scored 25 points. I would also point out that while I didn't keep track, his passing was much less effective when JT was on him as well. So sure, 2-6 shooting for 6 points and 5 total rebounds is no great shakes for JT, but the defense was remarkable and completely earned JT a good grade. --Capt.

Yala National Park, Sri Lanka

Stats: 28min 26pts (8-15, 2-4, 8-10) 11reb 0ast 1stl 0blk 3TO
Williams ( A ) -- Ahhhh, Derrick Williams. This was fun. Just your classic “I’m going to show my old team what they’re missing” kind of game from Williams. He just had it going on tonight. I wish I counted just how many And1’s he had, but it felt like it was at least 4. None of the Timberwolves bigger defenders could stay in front of him, and none of their smaller defenders could keep him out of the paint. He did a lot of his offensive damage in transition where he consistently drove through the Timberwolves defense. He was finishing with contact over and over and over again. It got to the point where it looked like guys were trying to get out of the way, but Williams was finding the contact anyway and getting to the line. There was a lot of good movement from Williams, and to his teammates credit they were feeding him the ball a lot more than usual. He was even hitting his jumpers, connecting on two smooth looking 3’s (and hitting 8 of 10 free throws). He was the Kings best player tonight, and it wasn’t even close. In 11 first half minutes alone he scored 16 points on 5-8 shooting, and it was that kind of Derrick Williams game that turns into 30+ minutes of frustration because we all want to see it every night. In a game where Rudy Gay didn’t show up and DeMarcus Cousins didn’t play, the Kings needed someone to step up in order to keep this one competitive and Derrick Williams did that in a big way. It wasn’t jus the scoring, either. The Kings needed to make up for Cousins’ rebounding, and Williams did a very good job pulling down the rebounds in his area. It wasn’t quite perfect hence the reason for the missing ‘+’ next to his A. There was a few heat checks in there, a few turnovers, questionable defense, and the team lost, But this was a great performance on a night where the Kings desperately needed one. --Mass

Dazu Rock Carvings, China -- a world heritage site and massive collection of rock carvings dating as far back as the 7th century outside of Chonquing, China. There are more than 75 individual sites inside the overall site with more than 50,000 statues in total.

Stats: 22min 0pts (0-3, 0-1, 0-0) 5reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Acy ( C+ ) -- Quincy gets a C+ for hustle mostly. He didn't score a point and went 0 for 3 if memory serves. But he did grab boards and played pretty good defense for the most part. He had a bit of a rough go in the 4th quarter when he guarding Love. I thought he did a good job of contesting everything that Love tried. The simple fact is, that Love is just too good a player to be consistently stopped. His only real mistake came in the 2nd quarter when he lost track of Love, who blew by him and then dished the ball for a dunk. So other than scoring, Acy was solid tonight. Considering we don't look for him to score, I can't downgrade him too much. We stayed in the game all night with the Wolves, and we did it by playing good defense for a lot of the game, and Acy was part of that. --Baja

Buddhas of Bamiyan, Afghanistan -- some of you may remember these 175ft tall 5th century statues that the Taliban decided to destroy in the name of their god back in 2001. I think I will just quit before mentioning what my response would have been were I in control of the most powerful military on Earth lest you suddenly realize just how ruthless I can be. Supposedly they are trying to rebuild them over there now. Not sure what the point is as long as the human disease that destroyed them originally has not been excised. They might just do it again.

Stats: 24min 6pts (3-7, 0-2, 0-0) 1reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Outlaw ( C ) -- well, Travis did exactly three good things on the night, all three of them centered around the fact that last year he was a SF/PF, now he's playing SG, and so three times we used him in the post to score over Martin and Budinger. He played the entire 2nd quarter, and from the mid 3rd until the mid 4th, and during those 24 minutes gave us 1 offensive rebound, no assists or numbers of any other kind than the 3 post ups. Forgetting that his advantage was in the post, after half he went back to trying to shoot faceup jumpers again, and he remained awful, missing all 4 of them, including 2 threes. STOP SHOOTING IF YOU CAN'T SHOOT. Kevin got him for a couple of foul calls in the 2nd quarter, and scored 10 points overall during Travis's minutes (of which Kevin only played about 18), although I think only 8 against Travis directly. So we lost the matchup in those minutes, but it wasn't a slaughter. And given that the rookies who took the other 24 minutes allowed Kevin to score 21pts in their 24min, I guess you take Outlaw's performance instead. Still, outside of the postups, which were notable, there was little to watch or note here. he was there..for some reason. --Brick

Skardu, Pakistan -- way up in the Himalayas, above even Jammu and Kashmir, East of Afghanistan and approaching the Tibetan border, is the remote town of Skardu, in an ancient kingdom/now region of Pakistan called Gilgit-Baltistan. The valley is surrounded by 4 of the 14 tallest mountains in the world, and features ruins dating back 1500 years, as well as Buddhist rock carvings such as the above, that of course have been graffiti'd by more wonderfully worthwhile wastes of skin. Its supposed to be very scenic, if you can get past the potential hostility of the surrounding locals.
 
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#3
Ray continues to impress even with somewhat limited minutes his defense is impressive and he takes/creates good shots and knows how to set up teammates getting them the ball at the right place and time. Another thing that impresses me about his game is how he quarterbacks the team even when he is not running the point directing players to cut or set screens for example. Watch your six IT he's coming for that #1 spot.

 

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#4
If the consortium member who is grading the PG slot this evening does not smack IT upside the head gradewise for the repeat bonehead intentional foul error, I am personally going to make a voodoo doll of said consortium member's avatar and stab it repeatedly with dull chopsticks.
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#5
Ray continues to impress even with somewhat limited minutes his defense is impressive and he takes/creates good shots and knows how to set up teammates getting them the ball at the right place and time. Another thing that impresses me about his game is how he quarterbacks the team even when he is not running the point directing players to cut or set screens for example. Watch your six IT he's coming for that #1 spot.

Somehow I doubt the guy who just put up 27-6-7 is trembling at the footsteps of the guy who put up 7-3-2. Who knows though, maybe IT is easily unnerved. :)
 
#6
If the consortium member who is grading the PG slot this evening does not smack IT upside the head gradewise for the repeat bonehead intentional foul error, I am personally going to make a voodoo doll of said consortium member's avatar and stab it repeatedly with dull chopsticks.
I heard Jerry R is a guest evaluater tonight
 
#8
Somehow I doubt the guy who just put up 27-6-7 is trembling at the footsteps of the guy who put up 7-3-2. Who knows though, maybe IT is easily unnerved. :)
I want to make myself clear i'm not one of those who want to run IT out of town however I think he needs to go back to that 6th man role. If you look at the box score of course IT looks better than McCallum IT gets numbers in bunches but McCallum even as a work in progress is showing steady progress with his play making and his defense is stellar.

 
K

KingMilz

Guest
#9
#D-Will with a Travis Outlaw vs Portland performance
#Ray was ok looked solid
#JT this game DID play really good defence the fact he was not starting over Gray to take advantage of the rookie was a joke I think Reggie/JT as a bench unit is fairly appealing if we can get a shotblocker next to Cousins. Cousins/player X/JT/Reggie as a frontline is pretty damn nice
#IT had two good bursts but was pretty crap stats aside I thought, not that Rubio who is really average himself played any better


The Timberwolves commentator said it perfectly as a professional you have to bring it every night from a effort point of view and quiet simply our three most naturally talented/physially gifted players in Cousins/Gay/Williams just don't do that either end of the floor on a regular basis.
 

gunks

Hall of Famer
#10
Gay is slowly reverting back to his Toronto form. Not a fan of keeping him long term, dude is talented but doesnt fit "culture" wise.

I ate crow after Gay gave us that great first month and a half. His play of late has me vomiting up black feathers.


Fun seeing D-Will kill it. I imagine he'll fade back into bench obscurity though.
 

Capt. Factorial

trifolium contra tempestatem subrigere certum est
Staff member
#11
In the poll, I picked "Onamonopia" because it's a word that imitates the sounds of the word spelled "Onomatopoeia" and thus is totally meta.
 
#13
Gay is slowly reverting back to his Toronto form. Not a fan of keeping him long term, dude is talented but doesnt fit "culture" wise.

I ate crow after Gay gave us that great first month and a half. His play of late has me vomiting up black feathers.


Fun seeing D-Will kill it. I imagine he'll fade back into bench obscurity though.
Doesn't fit culture wise? I totally disagree. He seems to take an active interest in keeping Demarcus cool and has the ability to be a first option scorer but is at his best as a 2nd or 3rd option scorer. Thats exactly what I'd want on my team next to Cousins. Besides, if we don't attempt to sign him long who do you expect to go after to play SF? There is no one better that we have a realistic chance at signing, unless you are implying we should trade him before his contract is up.
 
#15
Doesn't fit culture wise? I totally disagree. He seems to take an active interest in keeping Demarcus cool and has the ability to be a first option scorer but is at his best as a 2nd or 3rd option scorer. Thats exactly what I'd want on my team next to Cousins. Besides, if we don't attempt to sign him long who do you expect to go after to play SF? There is no one better that we have a realistic chance at signing, unless you are implying we should trade him before his contract is up.
I'll say this we should keep all options open regarding this team nothing is set in stone. Finding the right players who fit well with each other is key.
 

funkykingston

Super Moderator
Staff member
#18
I'd love to see a comparison of Gay's stats in games with the Kings where he played with DMC vs games where he played without him. Specifically his shooting percentages.

It sure seems to me that in every game without DeMarcus we end up talking about "bad Rudy" or "Raptor Rudy".

In my mind Gay is a very nice wingman and a terrible #1 and I'm curious if the numbers bear that out.
 
#19
Ray continues to impress even with somewhat limited minutes his defense is impressive and he takes/creates good shots and knows how to set up teammates getting them the ball at the right place and time. Another thing that impresses me about his game is how he quarterbacks the team even when he is not running the point directing players to cut or set screens for example. Watch your six IT he's coming for that #1 spot.

You watching the same game I am? Ray is below average at best. He dribbles it up every time and makes a 2ft pass to Williams and then runs around in a circle. Same thing over and over. He has a hard time creating or getting to the lane which would set up others for a score. He is better on the defensive side but not by much. He needs to start creating for others.
 

Kingster

Hall of Famer
#20
I'd like to get opinions on Malone's press conference. I thought his halting comments and facial gestures about Cousins' absence was positively weird. He sure seemed like he wanted to say something, but just couldn't. The whole knee tendonitis thing seems like an excuse. Something else was at play.
 
#21
I'd like to get opinions on Malone's press conference. I thought his halting comments and facial gestures about Cousins' absence was positively weird. He sure seemed like he wanted to say something, but just couldn't. The whole knee tendonitis thing seems like an excuse. Something else was at play.
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#22
I'd like to get opinions on Malone's press conference. I thought his halting comments and facial gestures about Cousins' absence was positively weird. He sure seemed like he wanted to say something, but just couldn't. The whole knee tendonitis thing seems like an excuse. Something else was at play.
As someone who likes to read into everything, I'd be interested in seeing that. The Kings didn't upload any of Malones comments on to their youtube channel, which is also a bit weird because they usually do.
 
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Kingster

Hall of Famer
#23
As someone who likes to read into everything, I'd be interested in seeing that. The Kings didn't upload any of Malones comments on to their youtube channel, which is also a but weird because they usually do.
All Malone had to do was say, "Yeah, he had knee tendonitis; we decided to keep him out." Instead, he took what seemed like 5 seconds to formulate an answer; he didn't say it was the knee, he said his "body" was banged up. He was obviously was doing some self-censorship in what he said in the slow drawn out speech pattern.
 
#24
I'd love to see a comparison of Gay's stats in games with the Kings where he played with DMC vs games where he played without him. Specifically his shooting percentages.

It sure seems to me that in every game without DeMarcus we end up talking about "bad Rudy" or "Raptor Rudy".

In my mind Gay is a very nice wingman and a terrible #1 and I'm curious if the numbers bear that out.
When Cousins, Gay, and Thomas all play together, these are their stats (sample size of 36 games):

Cousins - 33:38 MPG, 48% FG, 0% 3PT, 73% FT, 22.4 PPG, 12.5 RPG, 2.9 APG, 1.5 SPG, 1.3 BPG, 3.8 TOPG
Gay - 34:58 MPG, 49% FG, 34% 3PT, 85% FT, 20.3 PPG, 5.6 RPG, 3.0 APG, 1.4 SPG, 0.7 BPG, 3.0 TOPG
Thomas - 37:30 MPG, 45% FG, 34% 3PT, 85% FT, 20.8 PPG, 3.1 RPG, 6.8 APG, 1.5 SPG, 0.1 BPG, 3.1 TOPG

When Gay and Thomas play together without Cousins, these are their stats (sample size of 6 games):

Gay - 34:57 MPG, 48% FG, 21% 3PT, 82% FT, 23.8 PPG, 7.0 RPG, 4.7 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.8 BPG, 2.8 TOPG
Thomas - 37:47 MPG, 48% FG, 36% 3PT, 81% FT, 24.7 PPG, 2.7 RPG, 6.3 APG, 0.8 SPG, 0.3 BPG, 3.5 TOPG

When Thomas does not have Cousins or Gay playing with him, these are his stats: (sample size of 4 games):

Thomas - 36:03 MPG, 37% FG, 19% FT, 83% FT, 22.5 PPG, 3.3 RPG, 6.5 APG, 1.0 SPG, 0.3 BPG, 3.0 TOPG

Our record with a Cousins, Gay, and Thomas trio is 17-19 (47% winning percentage - we average a .41 point loss per game)
Our record with a Gay and Thomas duo is 0-6 (0% winning percentage - we average a 5.2 point loss per game)
Our record with only Thomas playing is 0-4 (0% winning percentage - we average a 10.25 point loss per game)
 
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#25
Starting Evans over Love stopper JT, I don't get that. If they want to see if any of the other pfs are appreciably better than JT, the answer is a resounding no. Sorry those who don't like JT, but Reggie has never been a good defender. He rebounds. That's what he does. Love never missed on Reggie so that rebounding skill is unused. And love can outrebound Reggie anyway. Just a massive mismatch. I hope the 'start Reggie' folks saw that. JT may not be the that mythical rim protector, but he's the best we have. Still. If we let him go, I don't see anyone on the roster ready to step in.

Holding out demarcus is tanking 101 (ducks). Mysterious phantom injuries. Knee, ankle, thigh, brain, whatever. With pec out they (perhaps not Malone) let a beat up over the course of the season cousins sit, knowing it'd be competitive enough without cousins. They were right. That's my guess for any pause. What do you say? We are tanking? The FO decided to make sure we lose? We let Isaiah be the 'hero' and let the results fall where they generally do (only 100% of the time minus cousins)?

Could be something else with demarcus too. You never know. I like a good conspiracy theory. Feels like the nba version of calling in sick. That could also be why Malone hesitated. He knows that's all it is, and cousins probably had FO approval to take a night off. I also find it hard to believe Malone would choose to start Evans over JT. Malone the coach, who wants to win, seems to have at some point just thrown Evans on the end of the bench and gone with JT, probably the guy he wanted to start in the first place but has been told to tinker. You know, to win as many games as possible cause we are a win now team.

Maybe a strong case of the Minnesota flu? Saw a Prince cover band the night before and partied like its 1999?
 
#26
Our record with a Cousins, Gay, and Thomas trio is 17-19 (47% winning percentage - we average a .41 point loss per game)
Our record with a Gay and Thomas duo is 0-6 (0% winning percentage - we average a 5.2 point loss per game)
Our record with only Thomas playing is 0-4 (0% winning percentage - we average a 10.25 point loss per game)
i think this is almost all we need to know. for a team in transition, the kings are a fairly respectable 17-19 with cousins/gay/thomas in the lineup, with a fairly respectable point differential, to boot. but the kings are a staggering 0-10 without cousins in the lineup, with a massive difference in point differential between when he plays and when he doesn't. to me, this sample squashes the oft-repeated argument that you cannot build a winner around demarcus cousins. when he's on the court with a talented running mate, the kings win almost as much as they lose, which means something for a team that hasn't finished above .350 since 2008. without demarcus cousins, well... the kings simply lose. i'd say he has a rather tremendous impact on the outcomes of games, wouldn't you?
 
#27
i think this is almost all we need to know. for a team in transition, the kings are a fairly respectable 17-19 with cousins/gay/thomas in the lineup, with a fairly respectable point differential, to boot. but the kings are a staggering 0-10 without cousins in the lineup, with a massive difference in point differential between when he plays and when he doesn't. to me, this sample squashes the oft-repeated argument that you cannot build a winner around demarcus cousins. when he's on the court with a talented running mate, the kings win almost as much as they lose, which means something for a team that hasn't finished above .350 since 2008. without demarcus cousins, well... the kings simply lose. i'd say he has a rather tremendous impact on the outcomes of games, wouldn't you?
Nah. :)

But if we let him lead us to the playoffs, we'd be too worried about him getting technicals for it to be any fun. We should build around Isaiah.
 
#28
i think this is almost all we need to know. for a team in transition, the kings are a fairly respectable 17-19 with cousins/gay/thomas in the lineup, with a fairly respectable point differential, to boot. but the kings are a staggering 0-10 without cousins in the lineup, with a massive difference in point differential between when he plays and when he doesn't. to me, this sample squashes the oft-repeated argument that you cannot build a winner around demarcus cousins. when he's on the court with a talented running mate, the kings win almost as much as they lose, which means something for a team that hasn't finished above .350 since 2008. without demarcus cousins, well... the kings simply lose. i'd say he has a rather tremendous impact on the outcomes of games, wouldn't you?
You would be a fool to think otherwise.
 
#30
Just think how good the Kings (Cuz, Gay, IT and JT) would be if we had journeyman starter at SG. I'd love to see it but it'd be a tough FO decision to demote Ben to backup SG next season. It'll cost them money and be a real test of financial commitment. Hope it happens.