[Grades] Grades v. Wolves 03/21/2013

Who would you have given more minutes?

  • Thompson

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Cousins

    Votes: 4 12.5%
  • Thomas

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Thornton

    Votes: 3 9.4%
  • Fredette

    Votes: 1 3.1%
  • Douglas

    Votes: 15 46.9%
  • Aldrich

    Votes: 9 28.1%

  • Total voters
    32
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Well, not quite juggernaughty, but another win behind a series of punishing Reke power drives down the stretch. That's 6 of our last 12 since that Miami Triple OT coming out party, .500 ball. And it leaves us only 11 back of the Lakers for the #8 seed with 13 games still to play. Everybody together: Beat L.A.!! :p

Highlights:

Full Grading Consortium for tonight:
Bricklayer
Capt. Factorial
bajaden


Boxscore

Stats: 43min 13pts (5-11, 0-3, 3-3) 5reb 3ast 1stl 0blk 1TO
Salmons ( B ) -- John played 43 minutes tonight, and although he didn't put up big numbers, I though in general he played pretty well. He had 13 pt's on 5 of 11 shooting, 5 boards and 3 assists. But John also busted his butt on defense all night long, which is more than I can say for a few other individuals on the team. He started by making a nice bounce pass to Cuz on a break for a basket. Cuz repaid him with a beautiful outlet pass resulting in a layup for John. He missed a corner three, and I was immediately reminded of my recent notes. But he decided to attack the basket instead by driving the lane and scoring. He followed that with a pullup 8 footer which he made and was fouled. The second half was basicly a repeat of the first half, but for a large part of it he had help defensively from Patterson, Douglas, and Aldrich. That was the turning point of the game in my opinion. So stat wise, it wasn't a great night, but effort wise, it was certainly a good night. --Baja

Stats: 21min 4pts (2-5, 0-0, 0-0) 4reb 0ast 0stl 1blk 1TO
Thompson ( D ) -- Jason must have gotten up on the wrong side of the bed today because he was just not mentally focused on the game. He went the first 3 minutes of the game without touching the ball. He finally scored on a half hook with 6:42 left in the 1st quarter. He followed that by getting his shot blocked in the post. He didn't score again until the 2nd half. He closed out the 1st half by missing an open 14 footer right after missing an open 15 footer. The cherry on top was getting called for an offensive foul. In the second half, well, there wasn't much of a second half. He did hit a 12 foot jumper, but continued to get lost on the rotations. At least four times in the game when Cousins left his man to stop the ball in the pick an roll, JT failed to rotate over and pick up Cousins man. Shortly into the 2nd half he once again failed to rotate, resulting in a basket. He was replaced by Patterson and never saw the floor again. Hopefully JT has a short memory. --Baja

Stats: 28min 15pts (6-12, 0-0, 3-5) 14reb 2ast 0stl 1blk 4TO
Cousins ( B ) -- got off to a slow start against Pekovic again, as this has been a matchup that has consistently bothered him in his early career. The problem is Pek's brute strength. Cuz is used to being able to muscle most people, but when he bangs into a big ole tree stump like Pek, Pek doesn't move an inch. The result on offense was Cousins retreating out o the perimeter to hoist up long jumpers the saem way he does agaisnt big shotblocking centers like Hibbert or Gasol. And while he hit his first one and did get a dunk on the move, the general effect was one of passive bricking. Worse was the other side, where the big (well, even bigger) guy was lighting Cuz, and us up. And again Cuz just wasn't doing enough physical work early, so Pek was bulling to his spots within 5 feet of the hoop and finishing in there again and again as the game's dominant early player. Basically getting his butt handed to him led Cuz to get frustrated and pick up 2 early fouls to boot. When he returned in the mid 2nd though, there was no Pekovic and the change was immediate as all of a sudden Cuz was willing to attack the rim with power as he began to rack up big dunks and FTs. To start the third there was a bit of a retreat back outside to shoot jumpers with Pek back out there, but the worm had turned by that point, and Boogie came online, really beginning to dominate the defensive glass and be a consistent inside presence as the game picked up steam. Something that bears watching is that despite grabbing 9 rebounds in the third quarter alone, Cuz sat out much of the 4th in favor of Cole Aldridge and Patterson. He seemed ok with it, but heaven help us if we do that and lose the game. --Brick

Stats: 39min 21pts (8-11, 1-3, 4-5) 5reb 5ast 0stl 0blk 3TO
Evans ( A- ) -- Tyreke had an incredibly passive first half, scoring two points on three shots, and looked like he was on the path to a terrible game. So naturally, he plays the entire second half, scoring 19 points on 7-8 shooting after haftime. Go figure. Most notable was the pivotal stretch in the fourth when Tyreke took over, scoring twice in transition, then drawing a foul on a drive, dropping off an assist to Aldrich on a drive, and then drawing another foul to get to the line. If I got it right, he was directly responsible for 10 straight points, and while we were in danger down the stretch of giving the game away, those few minutes got us the cushion we needed to win. Defensively, Tyreke spent a lot of time on Rubio and Kirilenko, neither of whom had a great game. He played Kirilenko pretty straight up, but he left Rubio alone quite often , resulting in a bunch of missed jumpers, and it's not clear that this wasn't by design. He did help in the paint once leaving Rubio open under the basket, and I don't really want to give Tyreke credit for Ricky blowing the layup, but overall the Wolves only scored 11 points on 13 shots against him, so it all worked out. I'd have liked to have seen a reasonable first half, but a great second half and that one dominant stretch in the fourth really helped us win. --Capt.

Stats: 35min 24pts (8-15, 3-6, 5-5) 3reb 6ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Thomas ( B+ ) -- IT was really moving the ball well in the first half, notching five of his six assists, four of those to the red-hot Patterson - to his credit, IT kept feeding him. His shooting didn't really seem like anything to write home about, but he ended up finishing with 24 points on 17 shots, distributing that almost evenly among the first, second, and third quarters (7, 7, 8) , but he did miss two big, open threes in the fourth that could have given us a nice boost. Fortunately, we didn't need those for the win. He did take two pullups in the first (both hit) that could have been harbingers for a game full of hero-mode, but to his credit he didn't get overly selfish and mostly took shots that were there. Defensively, IT regressed to the mean tonight, putting forth a decent effort now and then, but generally getting beat on screens and having trouble staying in front of his man. He did force one turnover on Ridnour (dribbled it off his knee) and held his ground on a switch on AK-47 in the post but somehow got called for a foul when he not only did nothing wrong but AK clearly hooked him. But, for as many poor defensive plays I tallied up, he only allowed 8 points on 9 shots, and that will get it done. --Capt.
 
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Bench

Stats: 31min 11pts (5-10, 1-3, 0-0) 4reb 2ast 2stl 2blk 1TO
Patterson ( B+ ) -- One thing is clear, Patterson knows how to play the game. And he's a good defender. He does all the little things that don't show up in a stat sheet. He stops the ball. He rotates to protect the basket. He knows when to double down and how to deny the ball. He's just a very smart basketball player. And, he's a very good shooter. He got into the game with 4:24 left in the 1st quarter, and almost immediately hit a 14 footer from the top of the key. He then hit an 18 footer from the corner. After missing a corner 3, he hit a 14 footer and a 12 footer. He then closed out the half with a 3 pt'er. His scoring was timely and needed because at that point of the game, The T Wolves seemed to be scoring everytime down the floor. In the second half, his scoring tapered off, but his defense increased, especially when he was on the floor with Aldrich and Douglas. At one point both Aldrich and Patterson rose up to block the same shot. P Pat ended the night with 2 blocked shots and 2 assists. Only 4 boards, but at that point in time, Cousins was sucking up every rebound around the basket. A couple of the rebounds Patterson did get, were important ones near the end of the game. A very good effort tonight, and JT better be looking over his shoulder. --Baja

Stats: 10min 2pts (1-2, 0-1, 0-0) 1reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Thornton ( D ) -- rarely rarely are you going to see a Thornton game get this little writeup, but then again rarely are you going to see a Thronton game where he's out there for 10 minutes and only gets 2 shots up. Hell, sometimes he'll get 10 shots up in that period of time. But he was quiet in the first with IT dominating the ball, and other than darting in for one quick layup, never got it going in the second either. Was hard to tell why he wasn't getting the ball, but he was just a non factor. So much so that with Reke playing rock 'em sock 'em TWolves inside in the second half, we just never brought MT back after half. 26 point game to a 2pt non-entity game. Very odd. Deserves alow grade for that oddness, but he did less stuff terribly than he just didn't do much at all. --Brick

Stats: 6min 4pts (2-3, 0-0, 0-0) 0reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 2TO
Fredette ( INC ) -- came in and immediately committed our first turnover to start the 2nd quarter and was having major quickness issues trying to guard Barea, leading to Douglas's insertion and Jimmer's swap to SG. Had another turnover whne he passed on a jumper ot instead try to drive it right into Greg Stiesma's chest , but eventually got a couple of layups on a leak out and a beautiful pass from Hayes to keep this from being an unmitigated disaster. Still impossible to avoid the sensation that these minutes are token. --Brick

Stats: 6min 0pts (0-1, 0-0, 0-0) 2reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Hayes ( INC ) -- Chuck only played 6 minutes and I don't think he even took a shot. The only memorable thing he did was a beautiful bounce pass to a cutting Jimmer for a layup. --Baja

Stats: 12min 5pts (2-3, 1-2, 0-0) 0reb 0ast 1stl 0blk 1TO
Douglas ( INC ) -- Only played 12 minutes tonight, and was practically uninvolved in the offense for that time. As usual, played his trademark tough D, getting two steals in the first half (though only credited for one, oddly). He certainly didn't hurt us out there with his D, but he just didn't have enough time/offensive involvement to get a full evaluation. --Capt.

Stats: 10min 2pts (1-2, 0-0, 0-0) 2reb 0ast 0stl 2blk 2TO
Aldrich ( B- ) -- in for the first time for the final 2 minutes of the half, immediately got a blocked shot, grabbed the resulting board...and threw the ball right back to the Wolves with a terrible outlet pass (one of two back to back for us at that point in the game). Later made several mistakes inside letting Wolves have free runs at the rim for boards and follows. Returned in the early 4th and surprised by eating up most of the minutes during the quarter. Wasn't rebounding, but was protecting the rim on defense and setting picks and staying out of the way on offense until scoring his only hoop on a big punctuation dunk off a pick and roll with Reke. Followed that with a strong stop on Pekovic before Boogie took back over. Not easy to grade, but more solid roleplayer work as its amazing the difference having a full sized rim protecting backup center is making. --Brick
 
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wow only 11 games out of the playoffs. looking at how many games were lost just by Keith's second and 4th quarter sabotages shows you how easily this team could make the playoffs with competent coaching and a few changes from new ownership.
 
wow only 11 games out of the playoffs. looking at how many games were lost just by Keith's second and 4th quarter sabotages shows you how easily this team could make the playoffs with competent coaching and a few changes from new ownership.

Amen to that! Started to do a "woulda-coulda-shoulda" on the 5-6 games the past 3 weeks the Kings shoulda won if coach woulda done some coaching for a change, etc, etc. But an ugly win is still a win. Very dysfunctional much of the night. Thank goodness for Wolves 1 for 19 from 3pt range. Why didn't Douglas get more minutes? Because the 3 Kings being King of the isolation play were wasting so much time and guy bringing ball up holds on to it and shoots without any one else touching the ball. That happened so many times it drove me nuts. Oh well. A win I guess but progress stopped.
 
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There are now 8 teams with records worse than us. We are trending up while a lot of teams are trending down. We could actually be picking at the back end of the lottery. It's been a while since we could say that.

That particular thing isn't good, obviously, but I'm happy the team is playing better.
 
There are now 8 teams with records worse than us. We are trending up while a lot of teams are trending down. We could actually be picking at the back end of the lottery. It's been a while since we could say that.

That particular thing isn't good, obviously, but I'm happy the team is playing better.

good news/bad news kinda thing.

but oh well, this team is about to undergo so many changes this off season that im not really worried about draft position in a draft thats said to be very weak. id rather see improved play right now and sit back and watch the franchise makeover from top to bottom when new owners take over
 
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Good game. A victory. A little rough at times but we did it. Great Evans game and so much from the rest. We getting to the point where erare a dangerous opponent, we might win at any time. Much fun and its getting better.
 
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My first impulse was not to vote but then I looked at the names Thomas and Douglas and decided I'd rather give more minutes to Douglas and take them away from Thomas.
 
Is Douglas strictly a scorer? Thornton 2.0?

He can play good defense but can score also. At 6'2" it seems like he'd be a fine guy to start next to Tyreke which of course would drive the announcers nuts as they couldn't talk about IT all the time.
 
"I didn't get the chance," Evans said. "I only touched the (ball) like three times. But after I did (start) touching, you saw what I could do. It was a matter of me being patient and taking what the defense gives me."
 
could not watch the game, just highlights.
Does Reke has something agains Pek? 3 times he was buldozing into poor guy.
Why is he not picking on someone his size :cool:

Damn the tanking, I like this winning streak :)
 
in response to the poll question: when Aldrich played, he was very effective in shutting down lanes to the basket, which was the precise thing needed, especially against a T-Wolves team that cannot shoot straight. he should definitely have gotten ALL the minutes Chuck got. at this point, playing Chuck serves no purpose whatsover. it must be the case that, as has been speculated throughout the season, Smart promises players time if they achieve some kind of goal in practice and Smart has deemed the second quarter as useless enough to get those promises out of the way. hence playing time for Jimmer and Chuck during that quarter and the subsequent 2nd quarter collapses we've seen throughout the season.

all in all, a good effort, weirdly enough also in adjusting defensively. the Kings basically shut down Barea and Pek, after they had torched them in the first half. also, whenever Reke had the ball in the fourth, good shots resulted, with the exception of the very last possession (he hasn't been good at that since his rookie year, unfortunately).
 
Glad they won but Minny went 1 for 19 from 3.

Kings basically got lucky.

Should be retire the 12th man jersey for Aldrich already? Best 12th man we've had since Funderburke.
 
Glad they won but Minny went 1 for 19 from 3.

Kings basically got lucky.

Should be retire the 12th man jersey for Aldrich already? Best 12th man we've had since Funderburke.

Even tho 1/19 is highly unlikely Twovles are one of the worst shooting teams (if not the worst) in the NBA so I don't think we got lucky, Minny got lucky in the 4th with a number of calls going there way if anything.
 
in response to the poll question: when Aldrich played, he was very effective in shutting down lanes to the basket, which was the precise thing needed, especially against a T-Wolves team that cannot shoot straight. he should definitely have gotten ALL the minutes Chuck got. at this point, playing Chuck serves no purpose whatsover. it must be the case that, as has been speculated throughout the season, Smart promises players time if they achieve some kind of goal in practice and Smart has deemed the second quarter as useless enough to get those promises out of the way. hence playing time for Jimmer and Chuck during that quarter and the subsequent 2nd quarter collapses we've seen throughout the season.

all in all, a good effort, weirdly enough also in adjusting defensively. the Kings basically shut down Barea and Pek, after they had torched them in the first half. also, whenever Reke had the ball in the fourth, good shots resulted, with the exception of the very last possession (he hasn't been good at that since his rookie year, unfortunately).

Agreed. And I'll one step further. Douglas should get all the minutes that Jimmer is getting. Jimmer continues to show why Douglas should be getting his minutes. It's as if Smart is playing Jimmer for traid bait for our next GM.
 
Did anyone else love the lineup of Douglas-Evans-Salmons-Pat-Aldrich? The defense was outstanding and did you notice how Tyreke was easily getting free of Kirilenko in the 4th? The difference was Aldrich setting great screens. Compare this to the previous game where AK just shut Tyreke down/ the last play of the game where Evans had to go 1 on 1 against a much bigger and longer defender. JT is slowly losing his place on this team with him having a string of games where he's given us pretty much nothing. I'm once again very very impressed with Cole Aldrich.
 
Did anyone else love the lineup of Douglas-Evans-Salmons-Pat-Aldrich? The defense was outstanding and did you notice how Tyreke was easily getting free of Kirilenko in the 4th? The difference was Aldrich setting great screens. Compare this to the previous game where AK just shut Tyreke down/ the last play of the game where Evans had to go 1 on 1 against a much bigger and longer defender. JT is slowly losing his place on this team with him having a string of games where he's given us pretty much nothing. I'm once again very very impressed with Cole Aldrich.


Love that line-up alot. I was actually thinking of that line-up, with the exception of having DMC playing PF, as the starting line-up. I just love the defense and the fact that one of those guys does not need the ball at all to be at his best.

Pat is awesome. Love his game, love his attitude. He just shuts up and plays hard.
 
Glad they won but Minny went 1 for 19 from 3.

Kings basically got lucky.

Should be retire the 12th man jersey for Aldrich already? Best 12th man we've had since Funderburke.


It's tough to look at stats in a vacuum and assume different outcomes. Yeah, 1-19 definitely contributed to a loss, but would the game have been played a little differently by the Kings had they made a few more? You never know.

I do like what I'm seeing from Aldrich/Douglas/PPat. It leans more towards hustle/hard work vs. fool's gold.
 
The second half was basicly a repeat of the first half, but for a large part of it he had help defensively from Patterson, Douglas, and Aldrich. That was the turning point of the game in my opinion. So stat wise, it wasn't a great night, but effort wise, it was certainly a good night. --Baja

Agreed, those guys from the trade can play! I like all three of them. Salmons and Tyreke played the whole second half!

KB
 
Well, not quite juggernaughty, but another win behind a series of punishing Reke power drives down the stretch. That's 6 of our last 12 since that Miami Triple OT coming out party, .500 ball. And it leaves us only 11 back of the Lakers for the #8 seed with 13 games still to play. Everybody together: Beat L.A.!! :p

I'd forget the draft pick just to kick the Lakers out of #8 seed. :P
 
Interestingly enough, Tyreke mentioned that in the first half he was just trying to play a more laid back team game, and as a result we saw him barely touching the ball for shots. In the second half he played more aggressively - the ball was put in his hands together with bigs that actually helped to get him free and voila, he played well.
 
Interestingly enough, Tyreke mentioned that in the first half he was just trying to play a more laid back team game, and as a result we saw him barely touching the ball for shots. In the second half he played more aggressively - the ball was put in his hands together with bigs that actually helped to get him free and voila, he played well.

Ugh. Tyreke shouldn't have a choice. He should be aggressive with the ball and attacking ALL the time, just not the 2nd half. Again, goes back on coaching for not instilling roles from the beginning.

Just more confirmation that we don't have any kind of a system, offensive structure, offensive hierarchy, and that everyone is kind of winiging it on the court. Can't wait to get these guys under a disciplined coach; it's going to be fun to watch
 
Ugh. Tyreke shouldn't have a choice. He should be aggressive with the ball and attacking ALL the time, just not the 2nd half. Again, goes back on coaching for not instilling roles from the beginning.

Just more confirmation that we don't have any kind of a system, offensive structure, offensive hierarchy, and that everyone is kind of winiging it on the court. Can't wait to get these guys under a disciplined coach; it's going to be fun to watch

Yup. Evans is always taking a backseat when he's on the court with Cousins and IT. The thing is, we all know that Tyreke is not a very good off the ball player. He's gotten better, but his off the ball game is average at best. So how in the world do we expect him to be aggressive if he isn't getting the ball in his hands and getting good screens set for him? I really urge you guys to re-watch that stint with Aldrich if you didn't notice it the first time. AK was getting caught on screens and Evans was either getting to the basket or on that one time found Aldrich rolling to the basket for an open dunk. JT on the other hand sets screens that IT or Tyreke himself would get around with no problem.

A good coach would find a way to utilize IT's shooting and Cuz and Tyreke without taking any of them out of a rhythm. I also find it ridiculous that Tyreke is made to sit such a big part of the first/second and then expected to play the entire second half. Dumb coaching. But to Smart's credit, the rotations the last few games have been much much tighter, and I wouldn't be surprised if that contributed to our wins.
 
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