[Grades] Grades v. Warriors 12/21/10

Your favorite ultimate collapse moments?

  • With a commanding lead going into the 4th, Westphal is once again tricked into smallballing

    Votes: 7 13.7%
  • Demarcus wild shot, DeMarcus forced shot, Demarcus wild shot, DeMarcus forced...

    Votes: 4 7.8%
  • Tyreke TO, Tyreke TO, Tyreke TO... including 2 on plays out of timeouts

    Votes: 10 19.6%
  • 20 seconds to go, we're up 5...Beno fouls the 3pt shooter! WTH??

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Meanwhile while the 3FTs shot Cousins makes the choke sign, which should be an automatic techincal

    Votes: 6 11.8%
  • Cousins then proceeds to choke the defensive rebound on the missed FT, leading to..

    Votes: 4 7.8%
  • 15 seconds to go we're up 4 and now Landry fouls the 3pt shooter! 6 FTs on one possession!

    Votes: 2 3.9%
  • Up 3 3 seconds to go, Warriors must miss FT, Cousins put in to grab board, and chokes it again!

    Votes: 2 3.9%
  • At the buzzer Radmanovic hits a 30foot 3ptr to tie. Shades of Horry.

    Votes: 5 9.8%
  • Cisco, up 5 with 25secs to go, hoists a 3 with 13 secs left on the shot clock!

    Votes: 11 21.6%

  • Total voters
    51

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
That was epic. We are epic.

Ok, I would go with a Great Collpases theme if I had one prepped, but I don't. I had 90s one hit wonders prepped, a history thing semi-prepped, worst movie monsters, disaster flicks, a sports version of fallen idols...but no, with apologies to the ladies of the board, who are as always welcome to submit their own lists to me, something this epic not only deserves girls, but it desrve the ultimate girls -- no more obscurities, thsi disater gets : Ultimate Girls, The Big Name List

Greene ( B- ) -- got off to a sluggish start to this one before settling into a solid roleplayer game, and then of course having to sit on the bench while the veteran got all the minutes and contributed to the loss. Got a little burst at the end of the secodn quarter to get off the schneid offensively hitting a three and knocking down the little jumper on a Reke kick to make it slice the lead to 1 at half. Played that grease man in the third, not putting up individual numbers but helping stretcha nd cover, and then the caoch brilliantly changed up what was working, went small with Cisco, and stuck with it for the entire 4th despite Cisco scoring 0pts, again, and giving up all that size. Donte was finaly back in for the final plays for defensive purposes, and played Radmanovic perfectly, chasing him off the 3pt line, and then avoiding fouling him on the drive. Was not involved on the final backbreaking game tying three as that was Darnell up top. Donte drew the foul in mega-fugly fashion to start the OT and hit both FTs to get us off to agodo start, but fouled Lee to give the Warriors the 2pt lead at the 1:25 mark. Missed a forced three with us desperation in the final seconds of OT.
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Aishwara Rai

Jackson ( C- ) -- was playing the right place right time garbageman in the early going. Missed his set chances, but had several balls bounce right to him for open looks. Quiet in the third, missing shots but mostly staying out of the way until we brought back Landry, who was the much better player. Heated up the fire Westphal fires again as sitting upon a nice lead, and beating them up inside, Westphal suddenly decides its time to go small again to match Warrioors, putting in Jackson at center next to Landry, where he was ineffective, rather than going with Dalembert Jackson/Landry/Cisco = the absolute weakest reboudning frontcourt we could put out there, and we began to weaken immediately. No defensive rebounding at all for Darnell, as he was doing hsi best Landry imitation with all o-rens and no d-rebs. Then of course the capper for Darnell was that he was in there for the final play, the game tying three. Why he was in there instead of Casspi I don't know. But there he was, Radmanovic was his man, and he was a step slow coming out and...game over man. To be fair Vlad set up 28-30 feet out. But there was still no reason to leave him out there -- Donte was at the three point line, Cousins showed strong at the three point line, but meanwhile Darnell got caught up in a scrum near the top of the key and lost sight of his man just long enough for Vlad to can the game tying three.
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Megan Fox

Cousins ( D ) -- this was a memorable game for DeMarcus, for all the wrong reasons. Banged heads with Jackson early and not able to take advantage of the Warriors inside like you might think in the first half, but was dominating the glass. Maybe learned a lesson about the types of players he should overpower vs. those he should go around when he was matched with far too small Louis Admundsen and repeatedly tried to get cute with him. Fionally got him on rails and powered to the hoop with quick aggressive moves in the third. Bailed out Beno when Beno got toasted by a crossover by stepping in to take the charge -- he's only trying to take one or two of those a game now, and they are far more timely and higher percentage now. Made a nice defensive stand on the final possession of the third, as he altered two Warriros shots to get us the ball for a score to put us up 14. Then the 4th quarter rolled around and it was time to panic! AAAIYYYEEEE!!!!!! Lost his coposure by the mid quarter, and any sense of thought, planning, rhythm, or unselfishnes was just out the window. For all that the idiotic decisinmaking by our vets sunk us in the final minute, and Tyreke' turnover fest just took away possession from possesion for us, I think DeMarcus's meltdown, forced shots as a goto guy, and flat out screwups might have been the single biggest factor in our loss. As with several of the other culrpits, tried to make up for the incredibly poor offense with hustle on defense, but it became a horror show on offense as he just lost allnsubtlety, started slaming it inside against 3 or even 4 defenders, and was mushed at the rim or turned it over agina and again and again, those last few agains because our coach wasn't about to stop calling that play. Could have even sunk usworse as he idioicallhy made the "choke" signal at the FT line after Beno fouled Williams for the 3 FTs -- the NBA by rule made that an automatic technical foul years ago, and that could have been a SEVEN FTs on one possession possession for the Warriors if the refs had seen it. And then embarrassingly TWICE missed critical defensive rebounds on missed free throws in the final 30 seconds of regulation, without which we would have own the game, including the one at the close of regulation which let the Warriors tie it up at the buzzer. Added a terrible forced shot again in OT that was effectively a turnover, and by the end all you could really say is you hope this one taught him some lessons he will remember going forward.
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Jessica Alba


Udrih ( A ) -- had one of the best games of his career, and yet so virulent is our late game meltdown poison that even a guy having a career game found ways to contribute to our implosion and loss. Was about the only guy scoring in the early going with a couple of jumpers and a pair of threes. Nothing for a long time after the first, going theough the second and most of the third wihtout scoring any more points. But stepped in and tried on defense, whihc has been a very welcome trait of his for the last few weeks. Came back up offensively in the late third, knocking down shots from all over, including finally hitting his threes, and pushing us out to what should have been an insurmountable lead. But late in the game you could see the shakey poison even effecting Beno, as it has before, as he, panicked and foreced a shot into traffic that threatened to sink us. Hit a big pullup jumper at the 2:40 mark, but then flat out airballed a three at the 2:00 mark. And then of course the biggee -- folowed Cisco's idiotic 3pt chuck wiht 13 seconds to go on the shotclock by coming down the other way and fouling a 3pt shooter, with us up 5 and only 20 seconds to go. It was a terrible play that would start an incredible sequence of incompetence for us. Hit 4 clutch FTs in final the 15 seconds as the Warriros went to intentionally fouling us at 14 seconds to go to save things, but it went for naught as Ramovic canned the three. In the OT came up with a criutical layup and foul at the 1:41 mark to put us back up 1 as we were wobbling and tryign to collapse again, but then on back to back plays got beat on defense to set up a Lee 3pt play (Cousins had to step up to stop Beno's man, Lee (Cousins man then had a free run to the hoop and Donte fouled him), and then slipped and turned it over to help sink us at the 1:10 mark. I still have to go A here because this was Beno's career hihg in points, he made a umber of clutch plays, and in general he as the man here. But there can't be a + in a collapse of this kind, and for all the good Beno did he was right there screwing up along wiht everybody else wiht half a dozen bad plays himself.
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Angelina Jolie
 
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Evans ( D+ ) -- I don't know here. This was a game typified by a terrible offensive stuggle, but by Reke really playing a pretty good overall floor game, helping on the glass, having on and off moments on defense guarding Ellis, and doing a reasonable job distributing, especially in transition. And then the late minutes rolll around and its just...just very odd is what it is. Turnover after turnover after turnover, bot really on stupid stuff, just the exact same plays he was making a quarterbefore, and now its choke city. The passes become soft and tentative, he loses his footing and turns it over, a ball gets poked away on the drive etc. etc., and we aren't even getting shots off. Confidence is a funny funny thing. Through most fo the game he was able to get in towards the rim fairly easily, but shot after shot rolled off. So many in fact rolled off that it was actually working as a variety of assist with Dalembert and Landry in particular mopping up missed layup after missed layup and laying them in. In the 3rd began to get to the line repeatedly and score his points from there. Finally got another to go on a nifty spin move in the mid-quarter. Some good moments against Ellis on defense and used his legnth to challenge jumpshots, but also oddly left him repeatedly to go double people while leaving him open at the three point line. Then the late game came around, and just...what the hell Reke. Actually what the hell everyone. Came back in at the 5:30 mark and immediately turned it over on the drawn up play. Came up with a huge play two possesions later, as first Cousins and then Beno had blown plays but Reke picked off a Warriors transiton pass and raced back for the layup to push us back and stop the bleeding. Or so I thought. Another terrible pass out of the timeout at the 2:15 mark. Again at the 1:10 mark a 1-4 type flat and another turnover when he was tripped up. Actually helped settle us to start the OT, grabbing d-rebs and setting the offense. But then got picked up top at the 2:30 mark to give the Warriors a breakout, the foul and the lead. 4 of his 5 turnovers in the final 2+min of regulation and OT, all 5 in the 4th and OT. As mentioned, WTH?
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Kate Beckinsale

Bench

Dalembert ( B- ) -- played a pretty good first half stint, starting it off with a nice drop pass to a slashing Casspi. After some more of our folly as we again intentionally went to Dalembert in the post, began to get into things and have an impact defensively and on the glass. Never got to see the floor after half, as Westphal again got sucked into a smallball game, and stuck with his incredibly dependable crew of ****ups right through the end rather than put in the most expereinced guy on the roster to try to pull this one out.
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Monica Bellucci

Casspi ( C- ) -- had one highlight in a first half stint that was mostly bricks, quickly slashing to the hoop to be rewarded by a nice Daly dropoff pass. Otherwise did nothing out there, missed his threes, which he was frustrated with, and never got to return wiht Dotne solid and Cisco that steady vet we always turn to for these consistent 4th quarter collapses. No idea why he wasn't in there to guard the 3pt line against Radmanovic on the final play of regulation though.
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Halle Berry

Jeter ( D+ ) -- came in in place of Reke and immediately went inside and got blocked himself. Was not hitting his outside shots either, and they were all open. Rebounded over as his size hurt him on defense. End recipient of a fun sequence right at the halftime buzzer where we got the ball to Reke, and Reke to Jeter, for a fullcourt sequence in 1.3secs for the layup to get it back to 1 at half. Back for a short spell in the 4th where he did nothing, we lost momentum, and he got tied up for a jumpball -- not exactly Pooh's speciality My concern during his hot streak last week that this might turn out oto just be another Jackson/Head flash in the pan moment appears to be playing out -- teams have scouted him and are punishing his size now.
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Salma Hayek
 
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Landry ( A- ) -- quiet early, but scrapped on the o-boards and got a big dunk out on the break from Reke late in the 2nd. Kept on working our new most effective play, whereby Reke would slash to the hoop, pretend to throw up a terrible layup attempt off the rim, and Landry would take this sneaky pass and follow it home. Must have worked 3 or 4 times on the night, and I applaud Reke in being so unconcerned wiht his percentages as to be willing to try it so often. Even came up with a defensive stand in the final minute of the half against Lee. Was back in fairly early for Jackson in the third, and kept on working the inside, largely eschewing the stupid forced jumpers and whatnot, and even opccasionally passing the ball. Came up with a huge block at the 50 second mark with us doing everything possible to collapse, and then incredibly joined in the collapse giving the Warriors an amazing 6 FTs on one possession after Beno fouled a 3pt shooter, Cousins blew the missed FT rebound, and then Carl fouled a second 3pt shooter. Remember it well -- you may never see a sequence like that again, especially not punctuated by Cousins givng the choke signal and geting himself fined and benched over it to boot. This was still a very strong game for Landry as our second guy, one of his best of the season in a seaosn when 4 nights in 5 I would rather he were not on the team. But there is no bleeping way I am handing out two straight As for a game like this, and for Carl's own contribution to out failure I hereby award him a coveted "-".
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Adriana Lima

Taylor ( INC ) -- lost in the mess of the finish here was the fact that we got our first look at Jermaine Taylor in the secodn quarter, and he didn't look half bad. Came in and played some nice defrense using his length, and showed an ability to feed the post that is discouraginly rare amongst our guards. Also hit a midrange jumper, and got out on the break for a layin off a pass ahead from Reke. Did throw a terrible inbounds pass a foot over Poohs ahead that bounced all the way into the frontcourt before luckily making it to Landry, and in general was a little out of control, but athletic. Reminded me a little in gear and body of former King Dennis Hopson. All in all not a bad little debut. Promising even. But never got a chance after half to build on it.
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Elle MacPherson

Garcia ( D ) -- just not hitting his shots after coming in. Back in in the late 3rd and hit a three on a Reke kick, and then leaked out and had Reke hit him for a full court pass. Back to back, boom boom, to help us push the lead out and prepare to win the game. Upon which encouragement Westphal dedicded that Cisco should again get all the 4th quarter minutes so as to "stabilize" us with his veteran play. Ahem. Offered a potent combination of missed shots, turnovers, and being late in transition defense to help the cause tongiht. Ther cause apaprently being to set some of record for epic collapse. Came up with a grand total of 0pts in the 4th for the second straihg tgame as Westphal apparently had exactly the wrong player in there in two straight collapses. Made one good play, racing back in transition defense to get a block and save the resulting leakout, as for a minute there it looked like he and Reke and even Cousins might save wth defense what we were desperately trying to give away with offense. But then of course made perhaps the single most critical play of all the critical plays of our mega-collapse, as he, resident "veteran leader", compeltely mysteriously decided to chuck up (and brick) a three at the 25 second mark, with us up 5, and with 13 seconds still to go on the 24 second clock. IF he does nto do that, nothing else matters. Either they have to foul us and we probably hit 1 or 2 at the line and seal it, or we run the 13 seconds off and the Warriors get the ball back down 5 with 11 seconds to go. But no. Single dumbest play of a very dumb game. I hope to Hades he spent last night up thinking about it. Inexplicable.
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You just knew that Radmanovic would bury that three with 2 seconds left. The Kings choking it away in O.T. is not surprising. The Kings are total crap. When will the agony end? I don't know what to say.
 
You just knew that Radmanovic would bury that three with 2 seconds left. The Kings choking it away in O.T. is not surprising. The Kings are total crap. When will the agony end? I don't know what to say.

Tell that to my dad, who didn't realize that Radmonovic was capable of throwing up a 35 footer and making it.
 
You just knew that Radmanovic would bury that three with 2 seconds left. The Kings choking it away in O.T. is not surprising. The Kings are total crap. When will the agony end? I don't know what to say.

The agony will probably end...in another city, with the Kings sucking themselves out of Sacramento, and then moving to San Diego or Kansas City or something, and then win a championship the next year...this sucks...:(
 
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Quoting Grant Napear as Kings blew it in epic style to be forced inexplicably into overtime: "I'm at a loss for words... at the moment." My only comment is: I thought what a @%*#@!& idiot when Cousins grabbed his neck in a chock hold insult as if the game was over at that point. Only to immediately star in his own personal choke moments repeatedly in overtime with stupid forced shots and turnovers. PATHETIC!!!
 
Tough times to be a Kings fan. Beno and Carl played a good game. Actually once again the Kings looked good until the fourth, then the yips set in.

Good night,
KB
 
A new low. I can't recall seeing a worse meltdown, ever. Even I thought they had this game won, and I NEVER think they have a game won until the buzzer sounds. Beno has the game of his life, Landry finally has a good game, and they still find a way to lose. 11 turnovers and 2 fouls on three point attempts in the 4th quarter? WTF??? The icing on the cake was listening to The Warriors fans take over Arco. You almost have to laugh at this point.
 
A new low. I can't recall seeing a worse meltdown, ever. Even I thought they had this game won, and I NEVER think they have a game won until the buzzer sounds. Beno has the game of his life, Landry finally has a good game, and they still find a way to lose. 11 turnovers and 2 fouls on three point attempts in the 4th quarter? WTF??? The icing on the cake was listening to The Warriors fans take over Arco. You almost have to laugh at this point.

Yea, as much as this loss pisses me off, I can't help but find this at least a little bit funny.
 
Not even porn could save this game thread tonight (no offense to you, Brick).

Yeah, I appreciate the attempt though, looking forward to the girls. In typical Westphal fashion, we start Jackson and close out the game without much PT from Donte and choke. I'm gonna start adding in positive messages in to my posts now that I am constantly flamed for being negative (um...duh) anyways great game by Beno!
 
This was an epic collapse by everyone involved, nothing but stupid decisions down the stretch by each player individually, but I have to fault the coaching for a good part of it. Like everyone bunching up in the middle for the final 3pt attempt in regulation. Why not just spread out tall defenders along the 3pt line?

Losing is in these guys' heads so much at this point I can't even pick out a choke moment from Brick's list, I'd say All of the Above if I could.
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Plenty of blame to go around, but seeing two of our vets foul three point shooters with seconds to go was painful to watch.
 
The agony will probably end...in another city, with the Kings sucking themselves out of Sacramento, and then moving to San Diego or Kansas City or something, and then win a championship the next year...this sucks...:(

I agree. This does suck badly. I wonder what the Maloofs think about all of this? They must be frustrated. I mean, sure, you get what you pay for but this is totally unacceptable. The Kings should have at least 10 wins by now. Everone that plays the Kings knows all that they have to do is hang around for the first 3 quarters and then take the game during the 4th. Our guys just don't learn. The losses don't teach them anything.
 
Not even porn could save this game thread tonight (no offense to you, Brick).

At least this made me laugh.

I don't know what to think about this team anymore. I was giving them the benefit of a doubt that they are just too young, but you cannot always use that excuse. This is on the whole team, not only the coaching staff.
 
It must be the curse of Chucky Brown. Westphal dissed Chucky Brown with the Sonics before he got fired, and the Kings brought on Chucky Brown at the end of his career, so we got a double dose of the curse.
 
Good job Beno, you played hard and was the main reason we were in this one. I miss JT's hustle and defense, he wasn't playing all that bad for us either before the injury.
 
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