[Grades] Grades v. Thunder 12/17/10

Who impressed you the most with his awesomeness tonight?

  • Omri

    Votes: 9 42.9%
  • Cisco

    Votes: 4 19.0%
  • Daly

    Votes: 5 23.8%
  • Landry

    Votes: 3 14.3%

  • Total voters
    21

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Believe it or not you can see creeping signs of progress now, mostly centered around our two most talented players (Reke and Cousins) beginning to get into gear and give us some decent games. But we still shoot ourselves in the foot with amazing proficiency, struggle to knock down wide open threes, and get knocked into death spirals with the slightest nudge or resistance. Still, there is hope where there has been none, if we can hold together rather than splinter in the face of all the losing.

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Official Boxscore

Greene ( C ) -- now this is a tough grade -- Donte did absolutely NOTHING...except maybe the most important thing. He played 25 minutes, he scored 2pts, he grabbed 0 rebounds, which is just inexcusable, he dished out 0 assists. But his job tonight wasn't to score, wasn't to rebound, it was ot hold Kevin Durant in check on the other end of the floor, and by and large he did just that -- we did not get beat by Durant, which is saying something. In fact until the final semi-garbagetime minutes of this one he, with a little help, had held Durant to 18pts on 5-13 shooting. He got into foul trouble early in this one trying to do the job, and getting victimized on at least one of them by a superstar/NBAish stlyle offensive player gets to jump into you and get the foul call sort of deal. But picked the thread back up int he thrid, and was doing a nice job harassing Durant again. Combined with Demarcus to draw a charge from the other Green in the late 3rd. But there never was anything to talk about on the toher end, adn while for most of the night he was just very very quiet, down the stretch as things fell apart and we got desperate again he had several loose offensive possesions and started throwing up jumpers that just had little chance. That was the period where Durant finally got free for a few dunks as well, as you can really jsut feel it when our composure breaks, everybody starts playing 1 on 1, and all attention to details is lost. We need a yoga instructor or something. Anyway, despite an incredibly empty statline this was NOT an awful performance. Donte took on one of the toughest jobs in the NBA, slwo down Kevin Durant, and acquitted himself well at it. He's going to get some grade for that. But he's gto to be able to still function in other ways while he's about it. Nothing huge. 6-8pts 3-4rebs would have done it and made this into a B type grade. But 2pts 0rebs 0ast makes a C for the defense the absolute highest I am willing to consider.
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Thompson ( C ) -- started this game out playing really well, and working really well with Cousins up front. Its another one of those promising signs of late -- Reke and Cousins are starting to come online, Donte and JT are providing defenseive/rebounding roleplaying length at the forwards, and JT is starting to work well with DeMarcus. Jason's pasing was particularly useful in the early going as he set up both Reke and DeMarcus for early hoops inside, and added a nice spin move to the hoop too. After returning got a lucky bounce off a terrible Cousins pass off the front of the rim, and got a 3pt opportunity out of it at a critical time after we only scored 3pts in the first 6 minutes of the 2nd. Of course since we nightly make a mockery of the concept of "free" throws, he bricked the freebie. Started playing a lot of backup center as the game went along, whether to feed Westphal's smallball fetish or because of an amazingly incompetent first half stint by Dalembert that left him unplayable I am not sure. Did ok, but not nearly as effective as he was when playing alongside Cousins, and for the second game in a row a strong start faded out into weak numbers. Made a mistake trying tio guard Durant on the perimeter late in the third. went for an upfake, and Durant jumped into him for the 3 FTs (luckily he missed 2 of 3), and in general went threw a bad spell hacking at people again. Not a facor down the stretch.
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Cousins ( A- ) -- DeMarcus is starting to settle in now, and we are beginning to see flashes of what we were expecting this season. Still much slop, many ups and dwns, but this was close to if in fact not his career game, and he just outmuscled the Thunder inside all game long. He of course fouled out again, and he STILL tried to steal one from Durant in the backcourt and just got lukcy or he would have fouled out earlier, but he managed to last starters minutes (33) before KOing himself this time. Had the full package of skills on display -- took care of the glass early on both ends, used his bulk to overpower the skinny Ibaka, and was doing a great job as a high post passer. Play tailed a bit in the second as he began to have problems keeping Collison off the boards, but it never reached meltdown status. Started the third with a nice in rhythm 18 foot jumper off a pass, and then used the space that created and followed with a fake and power move to the hoop. Just good smart basketball that's going to make him a terror to guard in a year or two. But along with the rest of the team just lost the thread in the middle of the third, play started getting scruffy, and capped things with a terrible crosscourt pass in transtion which was easily picked off. Started making too many msitakes, then getting frustration fouls on top of it, eventually picking up his 5th. Just lost his composure again. Got a rest, and after coming back in for the stretch run immediately helped settle us, hitting a long jumper against the clock, and then slamming inside and drawing a foul. Unfortunately capped his evening making the ultimate young dumb play, getting a defensive steal that could have let us get it to 8 or 7, and neve giving it up, weaving it all the way down the floor until he finally got the offensive foul and fouled out. Maybe his finest game, a near dominant effort, adn dripping wiht all the potential we have been wanting to see. But also still so flawed, so full of errors and slop and mental mistakes that I found it impossible to leave off the "-" on this grade. Nonethless, if this keeps up we'll turn a corner here sooner or later.
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Udrih ( B ) -- and while Reke and Cousins are starting to play, Beno has been stepping up as ample support. Tonight it was scoring support, as a one dimesnional 19pt 1reb 0ast stat line disguised the fact that he played his role well, and stayed out of the way while the Reke/Boogie combo largely directied things. Got an early layup off a nice Reke pass, and was hitting his little jumpers in rhythm early. Hit back to back little 12 footers along the baseline in the mid second, the first off a nice Reke drive and dish, the second for another 3pt play opportunity that went by the wayside as he blew the freebie. Got quiet after half, but came up with a circus layup in the mid-3rd as about the only thing we had going during our roghest patch fo the game, and canned a three on a kick from Reke in the mid-4th to cut the lead back to 6. Along the way of course did not rack up any assists, but then again given that nobody but Reke or Cousins could score tonight, and those guys largely take care of themselves, there weren't many assisat to be had. Put in some effort on defense as his 5 fouls will attest. Not going to jump up and down about him being a stopper or anything, but hey, he was more effective than Pooh on that end, so that's something right?
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Evans ( B ) -- so a second straight Rekeesque game, and maybe just maybe the extremes of our anguish are past now. Don't think he ever had as good a stretch in this one as he had in the first half in New Orleans, but 3 of 4 quarters were solid here, and we got those same anchoring numbers we had last year at 22pts 5rebs 6ast. Started the game looking comfortable again and attacking, and started spalshing in jumpers in the second before closing things with a couple of big power drives. Started a poor sequence which sunk us in the final minute of the half, forcing up an airballed jumper looking for a foul. Beno, and then Reke (trying to get a 2 for 1 sitution) would follow with two more 1 on 1 chcuked jumpers, and the lead balooned to 7. Had a down quarter in the third again, and hey, guys are going to have quarters that aren't as good as others, but this is a pattern. Did not realy hurt us so much as was simply ineffectibe, and fumbled a rebound in the late 3rd and turned what should have been our own raceout into a Durant three. Poor shot to close the third, a one on one jumper after he waited too long to set it up. But came back in in the 4th with us fading and immediately gave us a shot in the arm attacking the hoop, getting a steal up top for the breakout, and setting up Beno for a three. I have a new theory about the injury: remember when Jason Jones reported that Reke said it was a stress fracture? What if Reke thought it actually was, that the pain he is feeling is a fracture that can get worse. So he is tentative, flinching, trying not to hurt it. Then you go into the doctor and he says nope, no stress fracture, just plantar fasciatis. And so Reke is freed from mental jail, knows the pain is ust pain, but isn't worried about serious injury anymore and can regain his bounce and make his moves without fear? Migth explain the timing of this resurgence compare to what came before.
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Casspi ( D ) -- ooh boy, I have held Omri's grade up here because well, he did try. There was a lot of effort. And effort is half the battle right? Well, off of these results maybe not so much. Maybe 1/4 of the battle. Or 1/10th. Possibly 1/100th. Got a lot of early opportunities with Donte saddled with foul trouble, and just could not hit a shot. Missed open three after open three, and while there have often been aspersion thrown at our passers not hitting guys in rhythm or in their hands, a lot of these were GREAT looks, wiht Omri wide open, in his spots, balls right on the money...and the resulting shots were just fugly. Not even close. On te other end was realy trying to stya wiht Durant, and to battle wiht Green in the post, but as it sometimes goes wiht OMri's effort, he was making errors of voeraggression - overcommitting and watching Durant blow by hi and break the defense on one play, banging too hard and picking up cheap fouls the next. Tonight our top 2 guys performed, Beno provided ample support, and then verybody else chipped in with 11-35 shooting, including 0-7 from 3pt land,m with Omri leading the charge. Gicing him a very slight grade here for basiclly trying hard.
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Cisco ( D+ ) -- and what the hell has happened to this guy? I think these losses are getting more annoying now that I am finally seeing a basic structure forming up that could win, and its just getiing no support from the vets off the bench. Cisco comes in and immediately gets picked clean by Westbrook, misses a long jumper, and were it not for a couple of plays working backdoor while Cousins looked for him from the top of the key, would basically have given us nothing at all again. I don't get it. I threw in a gift "+" just for the work with Cousins because that showed potential as something we could run iun the future with Cousins setting up Cisco from up there ala Brad Miller.
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Jeter ( C- ) -- not much in the second quarter, pushed, but nobody to run with, passed, only to see the shot bricked. Brought back in in the second for one play and got burned backdoor by Westbrook before immeditaely leaving agian. Back in the third and made a nice pass ahead to Landry for a layup on the break. Too small to handle Westbrook defensively as the Thunder went at that matchup, and beginning to consistently have a problem every night with that as I think teams have scouted him now and are attacking his size. Hit a two on a desperate Reke kick in the late third, but in general we were again quickly subbing him out to get a boost from our starting guards again rather than getting a boost from him in relief.
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Landry ( C- ) -- probably less to see than the numbers here. Took several of those stupid contested 18-20foot off the dribble 1 on 1 jumpers that literally any player on the floor can shoot anytime they want to, but nobody does because its a 20% shot. Was getting killed on the defensive glass again, but grabbed several o-rebs in the late 3rd to keep us going. Committed a charge to start the fourth. Reversed any positve feelings when his terrible defensive rebounding killed us in the early 4th as the Durantless Thunder pummeled us on the glass and opened the lead. Perhaps out of embarrassment you could se him efforting out there on the d-glass late in the game, and it was just such a struggle for himn, and us. Just not big enough and as having to scrap for eveything. If my patience sounds thin, its because it is. Daly, Landry, Cisco, all have been major minute guys/starters in the NBA in the last couple of seasons. Time to step the bleep up off the bench and stop this nonsense.
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Dalembert ( INC ) -- looked clumsy and slwo to react in the early going. Bad enough that JT took the backup center minutes after half. Fell beneath my grading cutoff, but was running an F at the point he left, and not sure what the deal is. The injury? Just looked uinready to play 2 of the 3 games on this trip (Hou and OKC). Is there some sort of issue there with the coach? Unhappy about role? Physically limited? Not sure, but this was miles away from what he has brought us most of the season.
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Jackson ( INC ) -- got a few late mintues after we lost Thompson to stitches in the mouth, Cousins to foul trouble, and were too scared to try Daly again. Got a couple of atheltic dunk follows in the final minute plus of the garbagetime.
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The inconsistency of all vets not named Beno is killing us. Landry/Dally coming off the bench should be producing much more than they have. Cisco hasn't contributed in a positive way in weeks. Our starters played fairly well, but we got killed every time we went to the bench.

This team is definitely playing better though, and another positive is that it's our young core which seems to be building a rhythm, and pushing out the vets.

We can't have our sf combo combine for 4 pts on 2-13 shooting. Donte did however play fairly good defense on Durant until the end.
 
Answer to poll is NONE of the ABOVE! I was impressed with Cousins early and Reke had a nice game. Everyone else crapped and fell back in it. The problem with the Kings continues to be a lack of overall talent. Nearly every team we face has a better bench than we have a starting 5. I know the Maloofs are saving their money for after the new CBA (that I hope and pray does not end in any work stoppage), but they should have given a one year contract to at least one reliable outside shooter. They need a guard or a small forward who can hit outside shots. Cousins is doing his best to draw double teams. Reke is getting doubled high low to stop his dribble penetration. So there should be in theory open shots from the perimeter. However no one seems to be able to hit them on a regular basis. Landry's outside shot has left him. Casspi is hot one night and cold the next. I dont know what is wrong with Cisco, but his shots have not been falling either. And the entire team has a 4th quarter fade defensively that lets the opposition just take over and dominate games. If Cousins can get in better physical shape and can play for longer stretches without getting winded so easily the Kings would play better. I just dont see the shooters the Kings have now improving much over the season. Beno isnt known for the long ball. Head is DEAD. I am not sure why he is still using up a roster spot. Jackson fills a banger role who can make garbage points around the rim. But this team desperately needs a talent transfusion. I dont see any mid season trades that will turn this season around, so what you see is what you are gonna get. I hate to say it, but the Kings are just one of the worst teams in the league right now and they dont have anyone coming back from injury to make the team any better. They just dont have enough talent. Every night, they are starting 5 players that are outclassed by the other teams 5 players. Until that changes, we will keep seeing these kind of games where the Kings get a little lead only to give it all back and more. Perhaps next year we can enough talent to at least compete against teams. Right now we are the Washington Generals.

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The inconsistency of all vets not named Beno is killing us. Landry/Dally coming off the bench should be producing much more than they have. Cisco hasn't contributed in a positive way in weeks. Our starters played fairly well, but we got killed every time we went to the bench.

This team is definitely playing better though, and another positive is that it's our young core which seems to be building a rhythm, and pushing out the vets.

We can't have our sf combo combine for 4 pts on 2-13 shooting. Donte did however play fairly good defense on Durant until the end.

We get outclassed every night at the SF position. Usually at the PG position too. We lack talent...

Our bench gets killed every night because they are mostly CBA quality players. We have bench players in our starting lineup...
 
Dally + Landry + Cisco = 0 What the hell? Add up that payroll and you get ZERO.

Every time Westphal goes to the bench, they get killed. The only bench players that play moderately well are Pooh and Casspi. I want to see the guy from Houston play. He really can't play any worse than these guys.

P.S. How many open 18 footers has Landry missed this year? I swear he must be shooting 10% on those wide open shots. Unbelievable.
 
Dally + Landry + Cisco = 0 What the hell? Add up that payroll and you get ZERO.

Every time Westphal goes to the bench, they get killed. The only bench players that play moderately well are Pooh and Casspi. I want to see the guy from Houston play. He really can't play any worse than these guys.

P.S. How many open 18 footers has Landry missed this year? I swear he must be shooting 10% on those wide open shots. Unbelievable.

You overestimate his shooting prowess. I'd say he's at 5% on those shots at the most
 
Good game by Big Cuz. Not too bad of a game by Reke either, I didn't watch the first three quarters, so I don't know how he played. I'm just basing it from the boxscore. What I did manage to turn on was Donte clanking and clanking some more. God awful bench play too.
 
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Good game by Big Cuz. Not too bad of a game by Reke either, I didn't watch the first three quarters, so I don't know how he played. I'm just basing it from the boxscore. What I did manage to turn on was Donte clanking and clanking some more. God awful bench play too.

You think Donte's misses were bad, Omri looked like he was wearing a blindfold on 5 or 6 shots.
 
You think Donte's misses were bad, Omri looked like he was wearing a blindfold on 5 or 6 shots.

Typical Casspi. He shows you glimpses of being a solid shooter and then he goes and can't hit the Pacific ocean if it were in his dreams.
 
19 and 16 from Big Cuzzzzzz I admit I didn't watch the game, just posting off boxscores, highlights and the game thread but we gotta be positive about that right?
 
19 and 16 from Big Cuzzzzzz I admit I didn't watch the game, just posting off boxscores, highlights and the game thread but we gotta be positive about that right?

Cousins is literally growing right before our eyes. There were several plays tonight where he applied what he learned from Wednesday's travelling debacle.
 
Cousins is literally growing right before our eyes. There were several plays tonight where he applied what he learned from Wednesday's travelling debacle.

At this point I've accepted early that this is what I really want out of this year, it's the only reason I tune into games or check boxscores much like with Reke's rookie campaign. This is how a foundation of a team is made a superstar like player in the front court and likewise in the back court. Cousins for all his flaws on defense I really think has the makings of having 'IT' on the offensive end and that is really something that is rare in the new age of the big man, it's a great thing I really hope the team notices that and uses it to their advantage moving forward.
 
At this point I've accepted early that this is what I really want out of this year, it's the only reason I tune into games or check boxscores much like with Reke's rookie campaign. This is how a foundation of a team is made a superstar like player in the front court and likewise in the back court. Cousins for all his flaws on defense I really think has the makings of having 'IT' on the offensive end and that is really something that is rare in the new age of the big man, it's a great thing I really hope the team notices that and uses it to their advantage moving forward.

The thing is that he's also been getting better on the defensive end too. He's been learning how to position himself better and his rotations haven't been as cringe-worthy as before, coming away with several help blocks in the past couple of games. He's now officially a better post defender than Carl Landry (which isn't saying much). Will he ever be Dikembe Mutumbo on defense? Probably not. Will he become an average to above-average defender? Most likely.
 
Answer to poll is NONE of the ABOVE! I was impressed with Cousins early and Reke had a nice game. Everyone else crapped and fell back in it. The problem with the Kings continues to be a lack of overall talent. Nearly every team we face has a better bench than we have a starting 5. I know the Maloofs are saving their money for after the new CBA (that I hope and pray does not end in any work stoppage), but they should have given a one year contract to at least one reliable outside shooter. They need a guard or a small forward who can hit outside shots. Cousins is doing his best to draw double teams. Reke is getting doubled high low to stop his dribble penetration. So there should be in theory open shots from the perimeter. However no one seems to be able to hit them on a regular basis. Landry's outside shot has left him. Casspi is hot one night and cold the next. I dont know what is wrong with Cisco, but his shots have not been falling either. And the entire team has a 4th quarter fade defensively that lets the opposition just take over and dominate games. If Cousins can get in better physical shape and can play for longer stretches without getting winded so easily the Kings would play better. I just dont see the shooters the Kings have now improving much over the season. Beno isnt known for the long ball. Head is DEAD. I am not sure why he is still using up a roster spot. Jackson fills a banger role who can make garbage points around the rim. But this team desperately needs a talent transfusion. I dont see any mid season trades that will turn this season around, so what you see is what you are gonna get. I hate to say it, but the Kings are just one of the worst teams in the league right now and they dont have anyone coming back from injury to make the team any better. They just dont have enough talent. Every night, they are starting 5 players that are outclassed by the other teams 5 players. Until that changes, we will keep seeing these kind of games where the Kings get a little lead only to give it all back and more. Perhaps next year we can enough talent to at least compete against teams. Right now we are the Washington Generals.

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[Oh boy, rant start] Nothing personal dude, it looks like you've generally got something constructive to say... and you seem to put time into thinking things through... BUT holy ****, how the heck can anyone read through this... Seriously, you've been told this before, ... I've seen it... you are just wasting your thoughts with these piles of never ending sentences you always post... It's a lot of work to read.

FYI, people (like me anyway) skim stuff. There's just too much info here... When it becomes work to read, I'll bypass it... So, break it up bro! You are wasting your point when it is just crazy to unscramble and read. Try some paragraphs. You'll get your point across better for the effort put in. Thank you. [rant finish]... (errr, and sorry, still don't know what the heck your point was).
 
Beno Udrih with an impressive 0 assists in 34 minutes
umm why do we need a PG ?
because only 3 men from our team scored tonight
 
Beno Udrih with an impressive 0 assists in 34 minutes
umm why do we need a PG ?
because only 3 men from our team scored tonight

Another box score driver... Seriously, did you watch the game? Beno is prob our only consistant respectible player. You do realize assists need people to score after the pass, right? Beno's assists, and offense is not the problem... now if ya wanna talk defense...
 
All in all not a bad game. They were in the game through most of the 4th quarter and that's about all you can ask of this team right now. Cousins had a great game. He's getting better all the time.
 
Another box score driver... Seriously, did you watch the game? Beno is prob our only consistant respectible player. You do realize assists need people to score after the pass, right? Beno's assists, and offense is not the problem... now if ya wanna talk defense...

I think we should start Omri at the point. He'll average 20 assists a game. That's what PGs do right, average 15 apg (according to another poster). Omri, with all his talent, will surely be better than the average PG.
 
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