[Grades] Grades v. Rockets 4/5/11

Kings Player of the game?

  • DeMarcus Cousins

    Votes: 7 18.9%
  • Samuel Dalembert

    Votes: 9 24.3%
  • Marcus Thornton

    Votes: 19 51.4%
  • Tyreke Evans

    Votes: 1 2.7%
  • Jason Thompson

    Votes: 1 2.7%

  • Total voters
    37

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
My goodness, watching our games is nothing but an adventure.

Two quotes:

1) "the Kings are just faster, stronger, longer" (paraphrased) -- the Rockets announcers. Its maybe the brightest part of a very bright future for this team if we can keep it together. Matchup nightmares in the same way so many of the great teams of the past have been matchup nightmares (the old Celts or Lakers, the various Texas Twin Towers teams, the current Lakers, just about any team with Shaq etc.).

2) "you guys are frickin' idiots!!!" -- Bricklayer to team on TV, after we tried to explore new depths in finding ways to choke this away. There is not a shred of exaggeration when I say that we damn near fouled THREE 3pt shooters in the final minute, the first two by our two most experienced players (Beno, Daly), and the third by Marcus, who got lucky when Kevin decided to pass at the last second rather than shoot. There is also not a shred of exaggeration when I say I suspect that would have been an NBA record.

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Garcia ( D- ) -- ok, let's play a game of can you spot the hole/imminent FA signing: 3 bigs: 21-30FG 50pts 36reb 8ast; 3 guards: 21-40FG 49pts 9reb 9ast; 2 SFs: 2-13FG 5pts 1reb 1ast. Hit a single corner three from Reke late in the 1st, otherwise quiet to the point of invisibility in the early going, or late going for that matter. Bricked a three to start the third and a couple fo minutes later blew the short jumper after we came up with the steal in the backcourt, leading to his immedaite dismissal in favor of Donte (who was at least better than his numbers) Took a dumb 1 on 4 corner three with nobody underneath to board in the 4th to drop to 1-7 from the field. Did a solid job on Kevin in the 4th to avoid another F, as like Omri, Cisco has been given his chances to prove he can be a reliable starter, and just wracked us with wild incosistency.

Cousins ( B ) -- played a dominant first half...followed by an oddly invisible second half. Not awful. Just invisible. Got off to a strong start in all ways, on the glass, passing with minimal turnovers, and scoring inside and out as he was able to score through/past the much smaller Scola and Hayes almost at will. You could add Jordan Hill to that list as when he entered Cousins greeted him by just overpowering him on the right block with a strong +1 post move. Great pass to a backdoor cutting Donte to cap a long sequence of passing by us. Grabbed board after board as he gobbled up a dozen before the break. And then...I almost no notes on him for the frist 20 minutes of the 2nd half, because he basically didn't do anything. Not that he did bad things. His final statline remained very efficient, not as if he started forcing up bad shots and turnovers. But he just simply was not involved. Some of that was the Rockets focusing extra attenton on him...at which point Dalembert took over the interior butt whoopng duties. Some of that may have been us not being as patient about running the offense through him after half with the Rockets paying that extra attention. But a lot of it seemed to be him just taking his foot off the gas and coasting a bit, and with Jason coming on strong, he actually lost second half minutes after dominating before the break. Down the break he was shaky as everybody else, throwing a terrible pass at the 2:30 mark directly out of bounds when somebody apparently did not cut the way he had anticipate, then coming back and almsot turning it over again at the 2:00 mark, before diving on the floor to grab the loose ball and calling timeout.

Dalembert ( A- ) -- played a solid first half teaming with Cousins to pummel the Rockets inside, but overshadowed by his younger teammates dominance. Then as Cousins tired/disappeared/drew attention, took over the butt kicking himself after the break on his way to another big 21pt 15reb game. Got it done in various ways in the early going, cutting to the hoop and taking a pass from Reke for his first score, working a give and go, knocking down several long jumpers, and hitting a tough turnaround through traffic in the post. The drawback, and something that would cost him some minutes after half, was that he was not able to consistently challenge Scola around the perimeter (where he retreated when he got one look at our frontline). Came out in the third and made his presence felt from the start. Pummeled the Rockets on the offensive glass and just played right over Scola. Nice job blocking Martin on the break and actually avoiding getting called for the foul as Kevin went searching for it of course. Great block on Hill to trigger a fastbreak for Beno in the early 4th as well. Ended up having to sit out a long stretch of the 4th as we went with Jason as a better matchup against Scola on the perimeter, but was finally back in late after we started ou wobble down the stretch. Amazingly contributed to that wobble, fouling a three point shooter at the 21 second mark in one of those bizarre what the hell sorts of mistakes the likes of whcih we specialize in -- almost worth the "minus" on this grade by itself. Unlike most of his teamates got a chance to redeem himself, and did so, icing the game in the final 12 seconds by knocking down 3-4 of FTs to finally close the door.

Thornton ( B ) -- started off as a poor game, and one with a few red flags about how he was adjusting to third weaponhood, before he stepped forward in the clutch to save our collpapsing crew before they choked again. Off to another slow start, with his only hit in the first quarter a called play quick postup through Budinger. May be feeling the lack of featured role a bit more than the other guys have shown. Got fooled by Kevin when he pointed to an imaginary player behind Marcus, then quickly went baseline left, and in general did not do a good job containing him early. Not sure if his matchup here meant as much to him as it did to his fans. Seemed to be pressing a little on some of his drives. Split a double to get us a final drive just before the halftime break, but you could see him maybe getting antsy and forcing again in the early 3rd. Nor was he staying in front of Kevin again. Suddenly woke up for a little burst in the mid third with three quick hits, but then returned to looking out of control/overexcited forcing things. Threw a bad pass up top to Dalembert -- soft and telegraphed, leading to Kevin picking it off for a breakaway. But after the on and off play (and it was mostly off) saved our bacon late when we were seriously poised to blow a 12 point lead in the final 3 minutes with just idioitic play. So Marcus said enough stupidity (despite his own moment a minute later) and scored 7 points in the final 1:30, assisted Kevin in choking the ball out of bounds the other way and grabbed an important d-board. Of course damn near fouled a three point shooter himself (which would have been our THRID in the final minute) at the 12 second mark when he ran into Kevin and just got lucky Kevin was passing instead of shooting, but that breaks up the hero narrative and so will be minimized. I'm not going to go any higher than this for a game in which he struggled for 45 minutes, and especially given Kevin's production the other way. But there is little doubt without his late rush we'd all be talknig about how we choked another one, and HARD, instead of about winning 7 of the last 10.

Evans ( B- ) -- once again mixing passes and his own scores in the early going, but settled for a couple of long jumpers and threes as well, and really those shoukld be swung over to Thornton. Thronton's presence has really opened things up for Reke in the post against opposing PGs, and we repeatedly got good things out of his work over the Houston PGs inside. Was knocking down turnaroudn jumeprs over them, and finding cutters. But unlike the Utah game, there were a few forces mixed in here and there that kept this from ever feeling as smooth. Added his traditional airball as well when he whiffed a three against the clock in the early 3rd. Was running the breaks really well though -- set up JT for a dunk with a nice pass on the run, and hit Beno with a perfectly timed dumpoff as he has committed few of those selfish plays on the break since returning. Unfortunately was shaky as all the rest down the stretch here, kinda kicking things off by committing a bad turnover at the 3:45 mark leading to a clear path foul that let the Rockets abruptly close the gap from 12 points down to 7. Added a bad forced jumper at the 1:45 mark before wisely stepping back the rest of the way.


Bench

Udrih ( C+ ) -- in off the bench and immediately scored over by Kevin. Started the second taking a nice pass from JT for a little jumper. But really quiet thereafter, and his minutes felt almost like he was getting them because its our scheme to give them to him rather than because of any great productivity. Raced out for a coast to coast layup off a big Dalembert block in the early 4th, adn started hitting a few shots as the 4th went along. Took a a big charge at the 1:45 mark (that was not really the right call BTW) to save a hoop for us at a critical time. But then came back and AGAIN fouled a three pt shooter in the final minute to let Houston cut it to a 1 possesion game at the 38 second mark. What is that? THREE times this year Beno has done that in the final minute of a close game? I mean, WTH? Our late game chokes would be funny if it were happening to anybody else but us. Efficient but largely punchless game. Not bad, just low impact.

Thompson ( B ) -- got off to a nice start to this one in almost all ways -- doing a nice job on the glass, efficient offensively, and dropped a couple of nice passes to guys as he went almost the entire way in the 2nd quarter. On the other hand also threw one mysterious pass 10 feet over Donte's head into the stands. After half was again going well...until it came time to win things and his little brain just dribbled right out of his ear. Back to back finsihes inside as first Cousins and then Reke found him in there. Repeatedly knocked down long jumpers in the 4th. And then, well we started things off with the awful turnover out of the timeout at the 3:00 mark just throwing the ball to noone after Beno moved off his spot. Took a dumb forced shot in traffic that was blocked. And then threw another terrible inbounds pass at the 42 mark that Reke had no chance at, giving the Rockets yet another chance. The end of the game stuff was enoguh to knock the + right off this one.

Greene ( C ) -- anemic numbers, but felt he was better than the stats. Snuck backdoor and took the psss form DeMarcus for a quick layup for his only score. Took a bad contested three upon reentering in the thrid, but on the other end gave us a nice defensive lift on Kevin., who normally likes going against bigger guys, but seemed bothered by Donte's length.
 
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And we beat another team that will win 41-45 games that desperately needed a win. There's no exaggeration that since Reke has been healthy, our team has been playing at the level of a 35-45 win team. We've consistently beat other team's in that range (Bucks, Pacers, 76ers, Suns, Jazz and Rockets) while losing to a 50 win team twice (Nuggets). Not a bad way to finish the year. These are not meaningless wins against cupcakes trying to tank or elite teams resting their stars. These are legitimate wins against good teams vying for playoff position. Most of which have been on the road too. This team has a very bright future.
 
Well those last couple of possessions were pretty EPIC but Houston didn't want it enough. It's good to see that at least Marcus decided enough is enough and win us this game on his own. Cousins didn't do much in the second half but that's what happens when you keep playing him on the high post everytime, he should of been posting numerous times. What I did like from Cuz was that he didn't force anything, he pretty much let the game come to him and took what was available and that shows strides. It's just a matter of can he keep this up for a little bit? Tyreke needs to seriously hit the gym and stop airballing, I swear he airballs at least once a game. He puts no lift in his legs when he shoots. It's just a lean back set shot. Anyways, enough with the negatives and in with the positives! Another road win! Also, thank god we traded away Martin.
 
The thing about Cousins right now is he seems to either get tired or just lose focus at times. He rarely dominates an entire game, but will dominate one half or the other. In the first half of this one, he was focused on getting boards and posting up over the tiny Rockets. He just destroyed them. Once he is able to do that for an entire game mentally and physically, watch out.
 
7 Wins in our last 10 games. Only losses to Chicago and Denver (x2).

I think we are finally turning the corner here ..

Also, we are only two wins away from matching our record from last season ... This looked impossible a few weeks ago, but we may actually finish the season out with a better record than we had last year.
 
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7 Wins in our last 10 games. Only losses to Chicago and Denver (x2).

I think we are finally turning the corner here ..

Also, we are only two wins away from matching our record from last season ... This looked impossible a few weeks ago, but we may actually finish the season out with a better record than we had last year.

Yep, only losses to maybe the two hottest teams in the league. Heck, the Rockets were one of those too.

This has all come too late, but it makes the offseason/next season that much more interesting. The necessity of trying to get back Daly and Thornton is pretty obvious. But now you have to start wondering about Westphal as well. For all of his bungling and faults, this team never quite gave up, and he's got them humming. Would a new coach have the vision to use Daly and Cousins together? What about Reke and Thornton? Or would we have to go through an entire new learning process with the new guy? That thought bothers me. It has long seemed logical the Maloofs might want to go hire a splashy name if they do move to ramp up excitement, but maybe that's too much extra money? Maybe you let Westphal start next season and try to build on this before you make a coaching move? As ridiculous as his lineup fiddling has been, he's been pretty stubborn about certain things once he sets his mind to it -- Reke/Beno (most of the time) etc. With 4 obvious starters in Cousins/Daly/Marcus/Reke, maybe his happy feet rotations could not hurt us that much. At least not more than knowing this team and having found a lineup that is dangerous would help us.
 
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My goodness, watching our games is nothing but an adventure.

Two quotes:

1) "the Kigns are just faster, stronger, longer" (paraphrased) -- the Rockets announcers. Its maybe the brightest part of a very bright future for this team if we can keep it together. Matchup nightmares in the same way so many of the great teams of the past have been matchup nightmares (the old Celts or Lakers, the various Texas Twoin Towers teams, the current Lakers, just about any team with Shaq etc.).

2) "you guys are frickin' idiots!!!" -- Bricklayer to team on TV, after we tried to explore new depths in finding ways to choke this away. There is not a shred of exaggeration when I say that we damn near fouled THREE 3pt shooters in the final minute, the first two by our two most experienced players (Beno, Daly), and the third by Marcus, who got lucky when Kevin decided to pass at the last second rather than shoot. There is also not a shred of exaggeration when I say I suspect that would have been an NBA record.

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My quote wasn't, "You guys are frickin' idiots!!!" It was, Thompson, you freaking moron!" He only made three brain-dead plays in the last few minutes. Thompson has got to have the lowest basketball IQ I've ever seen. Not just on the Kings. Not just in the NBA. But that I've ever seen at any level. And there were people on this board arguing that he didn't have a low BB IQ earlier in the year. Does anybody want to recant now? Does anyone think this guy is is Einstein on the floor? It might take this guy until he's 33 years old before he doesn't make stupid plays that most high schoolers wouldn't make. The Kings have GOT to trade Thompson. Yes, he can shoot an open outside shot. Yes, he can rebound. He can even play some D. But those brain-dead plays KILL you in games. If the Kings ever make the playoffs can you imagine him in a playoff game? You'd have to get yourself liquered up before you could even bear the thought of him having the ball in those games in which ever single possession is key. Please, Petrie, do me a favor and let some other team have the opportunity of showing Jason Thompson how to play ball.
 
If first-half Cousins had shown up for the second half, this game wouldn't have even been close. I agree that he seems to lose focus as the game goes on. At least until the last 5 minutes or so where he typically tries a little too hard and makes dumb mistakes as a result. When he settles down though, he's really going to be a force.

It was almost comical how many things went wrong at the end of this one. We had an 8 point lead and an easy coast to the finish line and turned that into a nail biter for no apparent reason. It's still funny this year. It's not going to be funny anymore next year, but that's too far off to worry about now.
 
My quote wasn't, "You guys are frickin' idiots!!!" It was, Thompson, you freaking moron!" He only made three brain-dead plays in the last few minutes. Thompson has got to have the lowest basketball IQ I've ever seen. Not just on the Kings. Not just in the NBA. But that I've ever seen at any level. And there were people on this board arguing that he didn't have a low BB IQ earlier in the year. Does anybody want to recant now? Does anyone think this guy is is Einstein on the floor? It might take this guy until he's 33 years old before he doesn't make stupid plays that most high schoolers wouldn't make. The Kings have GOT to trade Thompson. Yes, he can shoot an open outside shot. Yes, he can rebound. He can even play some D. But those brain-dead plays KILL you in games. If the Kings ever make the playoffs can you imagine him in a playoff game? You'd have to get yourself liquered up before you could even bear the thought of him having the ball in those games in which ever single possession is key. Please, Petrie, do me a favor and let some other team have the opportunity of showing Jason Thompson how to play ball.

Um, okay... Thompson hardly outshined the large cast of characters that f-ed up in those last few minutes. Dally and Beno BOTH on the 3 pt shooting? 2 TOs by evans? Maybe Thompson's BB IQ is not stellar, but hardly even the most responsible for our melt down in this one. I'd say overall he helped us more than he hurt us in this game actually. Trade him because of his IQ? I'd need more evidence to even make the claim that his IQ is hurting the team. He's a contributor off the bench. Worst case scenario: limit his role in crunch time situations.
 
Um, okay... Thompson hardly outshined the large cast of characters that f-ed up in those last few minutes. Dally and Beno BOTH on the 3 pt shooting? 2 TOs by evans? Maybe Thompson's BB IQ is not stellar, but hardly even the most responsible for our melt down in this one. I'd say overall he helped us more than he hurt us in this game actually. Trade him because of his IQ? I'd need more evidence to even make the claim that his IQ is hurting the team. He's a contributor off the bench. Worst case scenario: limit his role in crunch time situations.

It's not just this game. It's dozens and dozens of brain-dead plays that Thompson does. Shooting when he shouldn't; not shooting when he shouldn't; passing to nobody in particular. Stupid, stupid, stupid. And Dalembert and Beno aren't geniuses either. And don't get me started on Garcia. This team has a major brain deficit. That is one of their major weaknesses. It's not coaching; it's genetic. They just aren't very smart basketball players. And the only way to correct it is to unload the brain-dead for the brain-endowed. Westphal can't make geniuses out of those guys. Nobody can. So Petrie needs to add some IQ points to the lineup for next year in part by subtracting the IQ challenged on this team. Thompson leads the parade.
 
Westphal brilliantly came up with the Dally/Cuz lineup after a complaint from Dally's agent saying he wanted more minutes. I also have this feeling that GP passed Westy in the hall and said, "Ya know, Dally is not happy. Dally is good. Come up with more minutes for him." Great coaches win more than average coaches and they also demand big money. It has been demonstrated that the great coaches win more than average ones and Westphal is average. So let's cut costs on the coach and not get a great one.

Our SFs came up with 5 points and little else tonight and Casspi sits.
 
Yep, only losses to maybe the two hottest teams in the league. Heck, the Rockets were one of those too.

This has all come too late, but it makes the offseason/next season that much more interesting. The necessity of trying to get back Daly and Thornton is pretty obvious. But now you have to start wondering about Westphal as well. For all of his bungling and faults, this team never quite gave up, and he's got them humming. Would a new coach have the vision to use Daly and Cousins together? What about Reke and Thornton? Or would we have to go through an entire new learning process with the new guy? That thought bothers me. It has long seemed logical the Maloofs might want to go hire a splashy name if they do move to ramp up excitement, but maybe that's too much extra money? Maybe you let Westphal start next season and try to build on this before you make a coaching move? As ridiculous as his lineup fiddling has been, he's been pretty stubborn about certain things once he sets his mind to it -- Reke/Beno (most of the time) etc. With 4 obvious starters in Cousins/Daly/Marcus/Reke, maybe his happy feet rotations could not hurt us that much. At least not more than knowing this team and having found a lineup that is dangerous would help us.

Yea .. in a sick and twisted ( and maybe way to optimistic ) way this season has been a perfect 'Year before the big push' season.

For the first few months, things where really really bad. Players regressed (Landry, Evans, Casspi, JT) .. Cousins was causing more drama off the court than progess on the court... The coach was fooling around with Luther Head and Antione Wright.

But somewhere along the line, things ... fixed themselves, and future pieces changed roles.

It turns out Evans didnt really regress, he was just injured. Landry was traded for Thornton. Casspi became less important to the rebuild then we originally thought, so his lack of progress became less crucial. Cousins started putting up All-Star numbers ( and his attitude and complaining has improved ). Dalembert settled in to a more defined role with the Landry trade. JT has shown some things lately that you really have to be happy about ... Antione Wright and Luther Head were both waived. Cisco got healthy.

And as much as I have wrote about Westphal and how incredibly dumb I think some of his moves are ... I dont see how you can fire him based on how this team has played these last two weeks. The two most important weeks of the season, against teams fighting for playoff spots .. HUGE momentum builders for next season ( and multiple players have mentioned how important this stretch will be for them next year). A new coach could kill all of this. And I think the players on the team right now, Omri excluded, finally have defined roles. (That they understand and seem happy with).

And all the garbage that we had to deal with early in the season becomes more ping pong balls now that its over. It sucked at the time, but its over .. we are finally playing how we are supposed to be playing, but it took us so long to figure it out we got rewarded with a better draft pick.
 
When was the last time Cousins got a T?

He really has improved his self control... the thing is, even when he was losing it on the court (and in practice), he'd always acknowledge he goofed and that he had a lot to learn. This is what I keep telling people who think he's going to be a nutcase. He's not some punk who thinks he's never is at fault, he's an emotional guy who is aware of his shortcomings and working (and succeeding) at improving them.
 
When was the last time Cousins got a T?

He really has improved his self control... the thing is, even when he was losing it on the court (and in practice), he'd always acknowledge he goofed and that he had a lot to learn. This is what I keep telling people who think he's going to be a nutcase. He's not some punk who thinks he's never is at fault, he's an emotional guy who is aware of his shortcomings and working (and succeeding) at improving them.

Truely remarkable I must say. The more minutes, the more stats. :) I like that. It is a good thing other teams didn't understand his potential to control himself or we wouldn't have gotten him. Also, I think the refs have loosened their willingness to call a tech just for a sour look on the face although I think Cuz has less sour looks than a lot of players. So much for that chapter in his book of life.

Next?
 
Truely remarkable I must say. The more minutes, the more stats. :) I like that. It is a good thing other teams didn't understand his potential to control himself or we wouldn't have gotten him. Also, I think the refs have loosened their willingness to call a tech just for a sour look on the face although I think Cuz has less sour looks than a lot of players. So much for that chapter in his book of life.

Next?

I think refs are also starting to see a lot of the dirty looks Cousins makes are because he's fustrated with himself. For the most part, Cousins hasn't really said anything to the refs lately, even when getting his nose and lip smashed in.
 
Great game. I agree with the comment above that Thompson was no greater contributor to the end-of-game screw ups than his teammates. Each in their moment makes you shake your head. When they cure the end-of-game itis, world look out!

Only eight men played. And pretty darn well. Let's take 'em on backwards, first get the Lakers, then OKC, then San Antone, it's fun.
 
In the last 10 games only Chicago, Miami, and LA have won more games than our Kings.
I think that the set rotations, player health, and Thorton addition have really helped bring everything together for this team.

If we continue to play this well, it will be easier to retain both Thornton and Dalembert as we sell them on what the future can hold. With the lowest payroll in the league and a good draft-pick coming up, things are really looking good.
 
Garcia's problem - He's been given the label of the best shooter on the team, and when his shots aren't falling he continues to take outside shots instead of trying to get to the rim. Sometimes takes the shots at the wrong time, early in the shotclock, when we have numbers, etc. Undersized to guard a lot of 3s, but is a pretty good help defender and shotblocker for a guard. When the shots are falling, it helps us a lot, but when they're not, it can kill us because he takes quite a number of outside shots.

Greene's problem - He's too inconsistent a shooter. There are some games where Donte can't miss and there have been times when we actually considered him as one of our best 3 point shooters. Is a pretty good defender, but his offensive game is not developed/consistent enough. If he improves on it in the offseason and works hard I have no doubt that the team will want to keep him around for a long time.
 
Getting rid of Thompson would be a bad idea. He's great off the bench, is OK with that role, and delivers for what we will be asking of him in the future.

As for the SF position, having Garcia labeled as the team's best shooter speaks more to the problem we have at that position than Garcia himself. I agree with mac that this off-season will be telling wrt to Greene's future with the Kings. Will he take the next step? If he focuses on defense, he might actually have more of a long-term future with the team as well, but he'll need to hit an open shot or three to value his time on the court.
 
You have to say though, Jason Thompson's passes sometimes leave you wondering whether he really is an NBA player. Or knows how to play basketball at all for that matter. Donte can jump, but one of his passes was ... Manute Bolt wouldn't have been able to catch it. And it's not the first time we've seen him throw a pass like that. Not trying to say JT isn't valuable to us or anything, just saying that he should be criticized for making such passes.
 
Getting rid of Thompson would be a bad idea. He's great off the bench, is OK with that role, and delivers for what we will be asking of him in the future.

As for the SF position, having Garcia labeled as the team's best shooter speaks more to the problem we have at that position than Garcia himself. I agree with mac that this off-season will be telling wrt to Greene's future with the Kings. Will he take the next step? If he focuses on defense, he might actually have more of a long-term future with the team as well, but he'll need to hit an open shot or three to value his time on the court.

Exactly. While JT's flaws are clear, his basketball IQ isn't low so much as frustrating, because he is the same player he was as a rookie. As great as Daly has been, he is no genius out there either, magnified when you see a rookie like Demarcus doing what he does. As far as JT, the key to role players is accepting that they are that, and he has done that so far.

And Greene has such a nice looking jumpshot, it needs to get better but at the same time it's hard to say that it will. He's not quite a rotation player, but even as raw as he is now has his spot uses as a big swingman and stretch PF. He's a team-first guy, and as long as his salary is low the team should keep him around for that, and in case he does figure it out.
 
How is garcia the team's best shooter? What about Marcus thornton?

Also i was looking for casspi in the end huddle and he wasnt there again.
 
I think Donte came out too early, but had he stayed he would have just finished his senior year at Syracuse. I expect a big jump next year.
 
Getting rid of Thompson would be a bad idea. He's great off the bench, is OK with that role, and delivers for what we will be asking of him in the future.

As for the SF position, having Garcia labeled as the team's best shooter speaks more to the problem we have at that position than Garcia himself. I agree with mac that this off-season will be telling wrt to Greene's future with the Kings. Will he take the next step? If he focuses on defense, he might actually have more of a long-term future with the team as well, but he'll need to hit an open shot or three to value his time on the court.

I agree about Thompson. There is an aspect to this team that has to do with that elusive term, chemistry. For some reason, this team never gives up and for some reason it plays very well on the road. These are great qualities. I don't know if Thompson is part of this but I would be careful before I traded him. I'd hate to lose whatever it is we have as a team. Would I like him to be better? Probably yet that could cause problems as a better player at his position (#1 big off the bench) might end up being a guy whining because he isn't playing enough. I think we have a few that are happy where they are and Greene and Thompson lead the pack. Beno can be happy coming off the bench. Heck, his first two years he barely played. He must be a realist. That's an 8 guy rotation. The rest should be happy to be in the league.

We don't need a shooter at the SF position unless it is a Bowens kind of guy. In fact a Bowens-type would be perfect. Great defender that can't be left alone in the corner.
 
How is garcia the team's best shooter? What about Marcus thornton?

Also i was looking for casspi in the end huddle and he wasnt there again.

What is the end huddle? Is this an NFL type Christian prayer meeting?
 
I like Thompson and want to us keep him as #3 big guy. He is a clumsy guy who has dealt well with his clumsyness but he will always have it. Very good role player so us.

Casspi, if he has been missing from end of game huddles, it's completely understandable - he's used to playing and he has not been. I think Greene has been played instead in order for the team to make after season decisions on who they keep. Casspi has played a lot and I think they know what he offers and what they might expect.

Garcia does a good job of starting at SF. He is not the best shooter but he's good. We have won more games with him at SF than otherwise. Don't ever discount Garcia's value to this team, starter or off the bench. His health has been a big issue with him since the beginning. I like him.

For the season as a whole, our young talents have been the leaders in basketball "screwups" on the court, worse than Thompson. But they continue to get better and will. In the meantime, I'll have to continue to shake my head at their screwups. I say this here because there is a tendency here to talk about their many amazing talents. They still have work to do to not give the opponents free points.

Keep the coach. He's pretty good at least and he's not bad at worst. Changing is always a terrible burder for a team and it's fans and in his case it wouldn't be worth it.

Beno is a talented guy and we need him going forward, particularly with Tyreke and Marcus. Any two of them could start to our advantage. Beno is talented but not near as much as Tyreke and DeMarcus. He is much farther along with the talents he has and we need that to help our kids grow up.

I hope the Kings have, yet again, a paying customer in me next year. I don't want to break my 26 year track record but it doesn't look good. I still hope.
 
Way I see it...

Cousins/Dally/JT is a playoff level frontline RIGHT NOW. Cuz and Dally compliment each other nicely, and JT has been great as the 3rd big off the bench. And as the centerpiece (no pun intended) of the frontline rotation is an uber talented rookie, that rotation is just going to get better. And now that JT FINALLY has a defined role, I even expect him to calm down and improve his play (we're seeing the start of that already). Also, for a roleplayer like Dally 29 isnt old. He can produce through the end of his new contract should we give him one.

Could we upgrade the frontcourt? Of course! But I agree with those that say this is low priority. First we need a new SF, experience, and maybe a better coach (although these guys play hard for Westphal, I'll give him that).

Our frontcourt is huge and reboundy as ****. I have no complaints!
 
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