[Grades] Grades v. Rockets 12/15/2015

Turnover King of the Evening?

  • Casspi

    Votes: 12 26.1%
  • Gay

    Votes: 3 6.5%
  • Cousins

    Votes: 5 10.9%
  • Collison

    Votes: 26 56.5%

  • Total voters
    46
  • Poll closed .

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Don't Make Me Use The Bat
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Sloppy sloppy. But we won. And just like that, we're a game out of #8.


Boxscore

Stats: 35min 17pts (6-11, 2-5, 3-5) 13reb 3ast 6stl 1blk 5TO
Summary: Rudy Gay has gotten serious, and the smooth but soft scorer is suddenly transforming into our scrappy defensive wing stopper

Gay ( B+ ) -- what has gotten into Rudy Gay here? If you want one clear piece of evidence that this team may be turning the corner mentally and beginning to think of itself seriously as a playoff contender, its the play of Rudy Gay. The 6 steals were a career high btw. The 13 rebounds a Sacramento era high, and one of only 5 times he's ever done that. And that's why despite ballhandling misadventures almost all night long and only occasional one shot and done scoring pop ups, Rudy made a real impact for us tonight. There was a lot of giveth and taketh away to this one, and at no point did you know if he was going to do something real good or something real bad. In the late 4th he took a bad three...and hit it, then set up Curry for a layup, followed that with a wild fullcourt dribbling sequence resulting in a turnover, came up with the highlight play of the night with a huge +1 dunk with 2 minutes to go, and then followed that with an idiotic play getting picked in the backcourt. And it was headslapping like that most of the night. But this Rudy Gay, defensive menace, guy is kind of fun, and he was constantly getting his hands on balls and aside from being baited into a three point "foul" on Harden, significantly impeded the Rocekts star when he was on him.

Stats: 38min 19pts (8-11, 3-4, 0-0) 6reb 6ast 2stl 0blk 5TO
Summary: aside from trying to kill gophers all over the arena with his passes, another big contributing game from Casspi

Casspi ( B+ ) -- got our first two hoops right on the rim, then got less effective, and was blocekd twice blocked twice in the final minutes of the first quarter as the Rockets got back into it (and those two blocks would be his only misses of the first half). In the early 2nd got an offensive foul arm barring Montejunas right in the chest on the open court, which counted as one of his 5 turnovers on the night, and numerous just remarkably headscratching sort of plays. But he hit his threes and got out and ran the break and had a number of excellent sequences passing or being passed to and running sharp breaks. Then he would come along and pass the ball right to the popcorn vendor on some truly just random decisions. It was a teamwide fugly. But everything else was there. Omri was highly efficient with his shooting, he passed, did ok on the glass, fit right in as that extra weapon out there. He just decorated a strong evening with a serious of brain farts.

Stats: 33min 26pts (7-17, 2-4, 10-14) 12reb 0ast 2stl 1blk 4TO
Summary: was worried we were going to lose him early as he got chippy with Howard, but hung in and ho hummed another 26-12 night

Cousins ( B ) -- The big nights are just routine with Boogie at this point, but we almost didn't get this one going as in typical Cuz fashion he overreacted to Howard substituting pushing and shoving with actual playing, got himself a technical, and was plenty worked up and on edge enough to have picked up a second one before the quarter was over. He survived however, and a lot more than survived as he dropped in two threes, and really tried to force some contact and calls inside and went to the bench with a dozen points. He still wasn't settled however, returned to the game to start the 2nd, quickly picked up another foul playing over aggressive defense, and went right back to the bench. When he returned in the mid 2nd he immediately took a big chance of picking up his 3rd, but drew the charge. And his play from that point forward was if not brilliant, just extremely solid. He began to mix in little rumbles to the hoop, he completely dominated Howard on both ends, and he played very smart vertical defense to avoid having Howard or Harden draw fouls on him by jumping into him, which they both tried. In fact really the biggest problem we had with Cousins after half was that the Rockets gave up on the idea of having Howard guard him 1 on 1, and instead resorted to a series of gimmicks, including doubling him without the ball and even going supersmall and having Trevor Ariza guard him. And our guard line rater pathetically had no idea what to do, kept forcing it in to the doubles for turnovers, couldn't figure out how to feed him when he had Ariza pinned in there etc., and it was enough to make you sincerely appreciate the Rondo effect. Late in the game looked like he got victimized by a Harden call with 3min to go when Ciz set up to take a charge, Harden went right into his chest, and a foul was called on Boogie anyway. But he responded nicely with a great drive through traffic for his 25th point.

Stats: 24min 8pts (3-4, 0-0, 2-3) 0reb 2ast 2stl 0blk 3TO
Summary: was playing pretty well and competing agains Harden...and then fell victim to Karl's mindless "must have 2 little guards no matter what" sub pattern late

McLemore ( B- ) -- the short minutes centered around a lack of trust and Karl's preference for two PGs late, even if one is a scrub, continued tonight. And in this case I don't think Curry did nearly enough to justify that treatment for Ben. Its not that Ben had one of those "on" games offensively -- 5 of of his 8 points actually came early on basically wide open red carpet drives through a snoring Rockets defense more concerned with our other players, and he wasn't able to pick up the ballhandling slack in the early going while the Rockets pressed DC into mistakes. But he later added a nice passing sequence with Cuz for a dunk, and most importantly he and Rudy were really making it hard on Harden. Or at least not giving him much free. At the point Ben left the game in the late 3rd, Harden had 14 points. He finished with 33. This appeared to be lost on Karl as he went to his tweener guard instead,and stuck with him on the basis of 1-4 shooting in 21 minutes, nearly as many as Ben got. Maybe it was the clumsy ass turnover Ben had where he just started running to the hoop with the ball, apparently forgetting that you had to dribble it at the same time. In any case, while Ben wasn't as disruptive defensively as Rudy, combined our two erstwhile offensively minded wings were focused enough on that end to make an impact until we went small again.

Stats: 41min 14pts (6-9, 1-1, 1-1) 7reb 13ast 1stl 0blk 8TO
Summary: The Good: threatened a triple double of his own. The Bad: Threatened a quadruple double throwing it all over the gym.

Collison ( B- ) -- It was a Dr. Jeckell and Mr. Hyde night for Collison. He had 13 assists on the night. Sounds impressive until you see that he also had 8 turnovers. He wasn't alone in that dept, but he was the PG. To some extent, it wasn't that he had that many turnovers, it was the nature of the turnovers. The majority of which, were his own personal creation. Some were stupid lazy passes, or they were passes that god himself couldn't have completed. Offensively, passes aside, he was very effective. He was trying to do his best imitation of Rondo, and certainly had a pass first mentality. And while I admire the intent, its works best when you stay within your limitations. He hit his only three point attempt, and overall went 6 for 9 from the floor. His worse moment came when he brought the ball up the floor, crossed half court, and then passed the ball back to Cousins who hadn't crossed halfcourt yet. Defensively, he was a mixed bag. He had some very good moments, and some very bad moments, and to be honest, that's a typical Collison game. There has only been a couple of games this year where I thought he impacted the game defensively. Too often he gets caught in screens, and while that can happen to any player, it's his reaction to it that I have a problem with. At times, he simply gives up on the play when he gets picked. Yet, other times he appears to be glued to his man. But overall, it was one of his better games and if not for the turnovers, he might have been on his way to an A. --Baja
 
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Bench

Stats: 19min 8pts (4-7, 0-0, 0-2) 6reb 0ast 0stl 1blk 0TO
Koufos ( B ) -- not much changes in Koufos land anymore. His first stint was fairly ineffective, he got in in the mid first, I guess as a rotation thing, blew a little hook on a scramble play, but got a block in the final minute of the quarter. With Boogie back to start the 2nd that could almost have been it for Kostas's half, but Cuz picked up a loose foul, and we took him right back out a minute later. Kosta chipped in a couple of hoops and couple of boards before Boogie was back again. But it was really his 3rd stint in the late 3rd/early 4th that was his strongest, and he was doing a nice job boarding through and defending a feeble Dwight Howard. After he bricked two FTs in the mid quarter though, it was time to get Boogie back to close this thing out.

Stats: 27min 9pts (3-10, 3-7, 0-0) 2reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 2TO
Belinelli ( C ) -- how do you grade this?? Marco was some kind of awful for 3/4 of this game, missing shot after shot, was working on an 0-fer, getting lit up by corner three point shooters, got picked clean in the mid 2nd for a Rockets breakaway, and badly bricked threes at the halftime and third quarter buzzers. And then the 4th quarter rolled around and suddenly Marco stepped forward with a bang-bang-bang trio of three pointers kind of singlehandly nipping any Houston comeback silliness in the bud, He ended it with a dumb heat check 27 foot brick, but still, at a time when we could easily have sagged into another nip and tuck finish, up stepped the guy struggling the worst on the team to carry us through a crticial stretch. Been like that a lot for Marco this season. His percentages are terrible, but his timing terrific.

Stats: 21min 6pts (1-4, 0-2, 4-4) 1reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Curry ( C- ) -- Seth played 21 minutes and scored 6 points, four of them coming at the free throw line. At first glance it would appear that he didn't shoot the ball very well. He only took 4 shots, and made one. However one of his shots came by way of Collison passing him the ball with only 2 ticks left on the clock, and another was a hurried shot to close out the first quarter. For the most part, he was ignored on offense. When he did have the ball in his hands, he mostly tried to set up plays, more often than not, passing it to Cousins in the post. Except for one careless turnover, he had a fairly uneventful game. He did what he was supposed to do, but not much more. Defensively, he was fairly solid. Even in his first turn guarding Harden, he forced him into a turnover. Not saying he's god's gift to defense, but that he puts out the effort, and appears to be intelligent about it. Hopefully we'll see a little more of Seth in the future. --Baja

Stats: 1min 0pts (0-1, 0-0, 0-0) 0reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Anderson ( INC ) -- 1 minute of garbagetime, bricked his only shot

Stats: 1min 0pts (0-1, 0-1, 0-0) 0reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Acy ( INC ) -- last man on the floor, managed to fit a forced three point brick and a goaltend into less than 1min of action. Real use was as a good cheerleader earlier in the game though.
 
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28 TOs! Holy smokes.

Great win w/o Rondo.

Few observations:
- Boogie is fading in the second half of games. He made a nice driving lay-up with 2:00 left to help seal it. But he's wearing down due to conditioning or mental fatigue. I don't like his discipline on a lot of plays. He's allowing himself to get out of position defensively and he's not working hard enough to get quality shots in the half court. He's settling and it is either physical fatigue or mental fatigue (compounded by arguing with refs perhaps). I can't be the only one who sees this because it is becoming a trend. Barkley may have had a point.
- Marco rises from the dead! Just when he was looking like a statue out there he makes 3 threes to start 4th after 0-5 FGs to give us comfortable cushion. Welcome to the team Marco!
- Karl made a mistake to sub Boogie back in at the 7:00 mark. Why?! That group was humming along with 15 point lead about to bury the Rockets. He could have rested Boogie to 4:00 or 5:00 mark no problem.
- Rondo masks a lot of ball handling problems with our wings that DC cannot. The ball is in the hands of Omri and Rudy 3o-40% more without Rondo orchestrating and the result was 10 turnovers between those two.
- Dwight Howard does not have a lot of game left. He's so stiff.
- Omri 3 point % after make 3-4 tonight is 43% good for 15th in the league!
- We need at least to split our road trip preferably 3-1 :)
 
Fugli game, but a win is still a win (especially for the Kings).
What is it that makes the Kings play (at times) like a nervous tweaker on a basketball court? Making stupid passes, as if they lost their peripheral vision, and just being entirely out of rhythm?
 
I'd wish Cousins would lean up a little and embrace his Dirk side combined with a more composed inside offense and overall defensive effort.
 
Rudy is the MVP of our winning streak. I can't believe the defense he is playing out there. Incredible.
Yeap his play as of late has been great he's finally playing the role he should have been his entire career will be interesting to see if it lasts.
 
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um...what?
I'd think he'd be an even better player. Just looking at him he can lose another 10 or so pounds and lean up. He'll be less injury prone, he will move faster, and he will be overall more active on both ends of the court. His inside, Charles Barkley game might take a hit with the weight loss, but he'll be more explosive, generally more athletic and this would pay dividends to his overall offensive game. More room to get off shots, faster driving to the hoop and just overall energy. Dirk is an extreme, but he's got more Dirk in him than most of us realize. That's the inevitable evolution that Karl has been talking about... Demarcus shooting 3s and what not. He's not Shaq... More Rasheed Wallace/Chris Webber/Kevin Garnett than we realize.

Essentially, I want him losing some weight (Like Barkley has said) and embracing that evolution of his game which he has shown this season.
 
I'd think he'd be an even better player. Just looking at him he can lose another 10 or so pounds and lean up. He'll be less injury prone, he will move faster, and he will be overall more active on both ends of the court. His inside, Charles Barkley game might take a hit with the weight loss, but he'll be more explosive, generally more athletic and this would pay dividends to his overall offensive game. More room to get off shots, faster driving to the hoop and just overall energy. Dirk is an extreme, but he's got more Dirk in him than most of us realize. That's the inevitable evolution that Karl has been talking about... Demarcus shooting 3s and what not. He's not Shaq... More Rasheed Wallace/Chris Webber/Kevin Garnett than we realize.

Essentially, I want him losing some weight (Like Barkley has said) and embracing that evolution of his game which he has shown this season.

When you embrace crap all you get is crap all over you.

His bullyball game is precisely what makes him special. Take that away, and he's just another pansyass wannabe guard. Nobody will weep when Chris Bosh retires. They may not even notice.

This is a born natural bullyballer who can do unprecedented skill things. Not a skilled softie who might occasionally venture inside with the grown men.

Size and strength are one of the great universal elements in all contact sports. Watching him today I had almost the exact opposite reaction. With his natural build he should be stronger than he is. No way should little Dwight be able to bend him.
 
When you embrace crap all you get is poopoo all over you.

His bullyball game is precisely what makes him special. Take that away, and he's just another pansyass wannabe guard. Nobody will weep when Chris Bosh retires. They may not even notice.

This is a born natural bullyballer who can do unprecedented skill things. Not a skilled softie who might occasionally venture inside with the grown men.

Size and strength are one of the great universal elements in all contact sports. Watching him today I had almost the exact opposite reaction. With his natural build he should be stronger than he is. No way should little Dwight be able to bend him.
He's no Shaq

Stop thinking so one dimensional

It's not either or

As great as Demarcus is, he can be a lot better. He's lead the league in shots blocked pretty much every year of his career and it's not hard to see why. He can barely get off the floor jumping... He's dog tired on the court all the time. His quickness is what makes him so lethal as a scorer, especially when you combine that with elite length and a rare skillset for a bigman.

Now his bully ball game might take a hit if he leaned up a bit, but he would become FASTER, QUICKER, JUMP BETTER. He'd be an overall better athlete. His defense would get even better, that length would be used to even more devastating effect. Sure he might not be able to throw as much weight around down low, but his offense would not get worse, would most likely get better. Barkley says the same things because he was the same guy. Moses Malone told Charles as a rookie he was a fat ass and needed to lose weight. It certainly helped Barkley's career. Cousin's is great but he can be even better. I see a lot of Rasheed Wallace in him. I see some Kevin Garnett in him. I see some Tim Duncan, I see some Chris Webber.
 
Cousins has never had a god dam
Problem with weight. Not till Karl and his pace machine rocked up which has coincided with an upswing in shots missed with more perimeter play.

The kid is made for the paint and an offensive system built around that. Just because he has added a 3 point shot does not make him dirk. His strength and our strength given his simply put is scoring at will in the paint and utilising what are high percentage shots.

Gift wrapped a star by the basketball gods here we are trying to turn him
Into something he isn't. We're winning though you can see our weaknessss clearly.
 
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Barkley was hardly the same guy -- he was remarkably short, and always a phenomenal leaper even as a fat guy. And he was always heavy, by skinny boy standards. His in shape years his body looked a lot like Cuz's now. His less in shape years..there's was a reason they called him Round Mound.

And Barkley absolutely 100% thrived on his strength. It was freakish. The very worst things he ever did was "try to Dirk it".

P.S. three of the four people you compared Cuz too struggled as goto guys largely because they did not attack inside as much as they should have. And none of them had Cousins' natural power. Taking a big boy and turning him anorexic pursuing some one size fits all strategy is just as big a waste as sticking an Anthony Davis in the post and telling him to stay there until he grows a pair.
 
He's no Shaq

Stop thinking so one dimensional

It's not either or

As great as Demarcus is, he can be a lot better. He's lead the league in shots blocked pretty much every year of his career and it's not hard to see why. He can barely get off the floor jumping... He's dog tired on the court all the time. His quickness is what makes him so lethal as a scorer, especially when you combine that with elite length and a rare skillset for a bigman.

Now his bully ball game might take a hit if he leaned up a bit, but he would become FASTER, QUICKER, JUMP BETTER. He'd be an overall better athlete. His defense would get even better, that length would be used to even more devastating effect. Sure he might not be able to throw as much weight around down low, but his offense would not get worse, would most likely get better. Barkley says the same things because he was the same guy. Moses Malone told Charles as a rookie he was a fat ass and needed to lose weight. It certainly helped Barkley's career. Cousin's is great but he can be even better. I see a lot of Rasheed Wallace in him. I see some Kevin Garnett in him. I see some Tim Duncan, I see some Chris Webber.

While I do agree, that Cousins is a versatile player and not solely a bully, I doubt being leaner would benefit his game. In terms of jumping ability he will always be a terrible athlete. It's just how his body is built. He has a huge lower body and will never be able to move like slender big man like AD or KAT. In order to be a threat inside he needs to be able to power through his defenders and therefore he needs some weight. I don't see any Garnett or Wallace in him. More like a meaner, taller, more skilled version of Zbo.
And while I agree, that Cuz gets his shots blocked quite often, a lot of it has to do with the way he searches for contact every time. Most players develop their game to avoid contact - they develop go to moves like KAT with his jumphook or a wide array of fakes and spins like Okafor early in their careers. Cousins seems to be happy with drawing contact, he is actively looking for it and throws some bad shots up because of this. He is at the mercy of the ref's doing that and wether it leads to success in the playoffs remains to be seen. But this playstyle suits his body composition quite well. Actually Cousins is the James Harden of the current NBA centers.:confused:

And when it comes to running the floor, I have no problems with Cousins trailing the play on the offensive end and he is getting back much quicker lately. I think the Kings combination of multiple athletic players able to run the floor and Cousins as a very good halfcourt weapon is interesting in todays NBA.
 
While I do agree, that Cousins is a versatile player and not solely a bully, I doubt being leaner would benefit his game. In terms of jumping ability he will always be a terrible athlete. It's just how his body is built. He has a huge lower body and will never be able to move like slender big man like AD or KAT. In order to be a threat inside he needs to be able to power through his defenders and therefore he needs some weight. I don't see any Garnett or Wallace in him. More like a meaner, taller, more skilled version of Zbo.
And while I agree, that Cuz gets his shots blocked quite often, a lot of it has to do with the way he searches for contact every time. Most players develop their game to avoid contact - they develop go to moves like KAT with his jumphook or a wide array of fakes and spins like Okafor early in their careers. Cousins seems to be happy with drawing contact, he is actively looking for it and throws some bad shots up because of this. He is at the mercy of the ref's doing that and wether it leads to success in the playoffs remains to be seen. But this playstyle suits his body composition quite well. Actually Cousins is the James Harden of the current NBA centers.:confused:

And when it comes to running the floor, I have no problems with Cousins trailing the play on the offensive end and he is getting back much quicker lately. I think the Kings combination of multiple athletic players able to run the floor and Cousins as a very good halfcourt weapon is interesting in todays NBA.
Good post

I'm not suggesting anything drastic. Just lose 5-10 pounds of fat. I understand his bulldozing effect, but as much as it is his size and strength, it has alot to do with his quickness. I just feel that losing some extra fat would emphasize that quickness. I also agree with the jumping, but my point is everything inch of vert counts. His vert will go up if he gets leaner, that's all I'm saying. You can't see Wallace or Garnett in him, because he's much heavier than them. He has the finesse touch and elite length like them.
 
Cousins conditioning was fine until the injuries. DeMarcus was in great shape while playing with Team USA and to start this season. Karl needs to adjust the play style to conserve his key players.

While I enjoy Barkley's dialogue from an entertainment standpoint, he is often mistaken. Sometimes Barkley just makes statements to be controversial. I find it especially ironic that the Round Mound of Rebound suggest anyone loses some weight:)
 
While I do agree, that Cousins is a versatile player and not solely a bully, I doubt being leaner would benefit his game. In terms of jumping ability he will always be a terrible athlete. It's just how his body is built. He has a huge lower body and will never be able to move like slender big man like AD or KAT. In order to be a threat inside he needs to be able to power through his defenders and therefore he needs some weight. I don't see any Garnett or Wallace in him. More like a meaner, taller, more skilled version of Zbo.
And while I agree, that Cuz gets his shots blocked quite often, a lot of it has to do with the way he searches for contact every time. Most players develop their game to avoid contact - they develop go to moves like KAT with his jumphook or a wide array of fakes and spins like Okafor early in their careers. Cousins seems to be happy with drawing contact, he is actively looking for it and throws some bad shots up because of this. He is at the mercy of the ref's doing that and wether it leads to success in the playoffs remains to be seen. But this playstyle suits his body composition quite well. Actually Cousins is the James Harden of the current NBA centers.:confused:

And when it comes to running the floor, I have no problems with Cousins trailing the play on the offensive end and he is getting back much quicker lately. I think the Kings combination of multiple athletic players able to run the floor and Cousins as a very good halfcourt weapon is interesting in todays NBA.

Good point on how Cousins looks to draw contact.
 
It was so great to finally see another Kings game on NBA TV. MAN, what a game! Unlike the last game I saw (and complained about here), this was a lot of fun. Instead of pouting on the sidelines, the guys got back on D. The ball movement and unselfishness was fabulous and guys really did give up good plays to help a teammate make a great play. At times they seemed to just forget about the score and play fluid, team-centric basketball, and it was so fun to watch. Ben did an excellent job on the bearded wonder, Kaspi was fearless (sometimes with disastrous results), and DMC absolutely neutered Dwight. Good chemistry, an engaged bench (who didn't love Quincy Acy???), a better team. If I lived in Sactown, I would definitely be buying season tickets.
 
Cousins conditioning was fine until the injuries. DeMarcus was in great shape while playing with Team USA and to start this season. Karl needs to adjust the play style to conserve his key players.

While I enjoy Barkley's dialogue from an entertainment standpoint, he is often mistaken. Sometimes Barkley just makes statements to be controversial. I find it especially ironic that the Round Mound of Rebound suggest anyone loses some weight:)
But it can be better

This is the point

Size is no excuse. Karl Malone played for 19 years, high minutes and he would run the fastbreak harder than anybody

Cousins would move a lot better if he lost 5-10 pounds of far
 
I don't agree that he should lose weight......Just tone up. David Robinson was an athletic bodybuilder guy, and strong as hell. You don't need to have "bulk/fat" to bully your opponents with strength.
 
But it can be better

This is the point

Size is no excuse. Karl Malone played for 19 years, high minutes and he would run the fastbreak harder than anybody

Cousins would move a lot better if he lost 5-10 pounds of far

5-10 pounds of fat doesn't sound like a big deal (well for a professional athlete. For me it's certainly a big deal.). But until his achilles strain followed by back problems he didn't look out of shape to me. In fact I never worried about Big Cuz shape until Mr. Charles Barkley made it an issue.
Cousins was able to dominate with his weight. He was able to foul out whole front lines with his playstyle. Now Karl has decided to mix things up a little and so far Cousins seems ok with it. In the last 3 games things are moving into the right direction, despite Ben sitting on the bench way too long, and Cousins starts to move better once again.
I think Basketball is a sport, were a bit of extra weight even when it's body fat can be beneficial, as long as the conditioning is there to get up and down the court fast enough.

I'm not into sports medicine, so I'm unable to validate, if Cousins injuries are really related to our playstyle paired with his body composition and weight or were just bad luck.

So maybe you are right, that a slight weightloss could be beneficial as long as it doesn't effect his strength and leverage down low. It's up to smarter people than me, to determine, how much weight he could lose without affecting his playstyle.
But from my point of view it's one point on a long list of potential areas of improvement for Cousins. And it's a pretty minor concern.
I think it's more important to keep working on the balance of his inside and outside game, to improve his two man game with Rondo, to find a way to counter these quick double teams by small lineups we saw yesterday and to help him to make smarter decisions with the ball.
 
I don't agree that he should lose weight......Just tone up. David Robinson was an athletic bodybuilder guy, and strong as hell. You don't need to have "bulk/fat" to bully your opponents with strength.

Robinson was indeed very toned, but also had a different body type than Cousins. Anthony Davis actually reminds me of Robinson a bit - huge shoulders and a strong upper body but relatively slender hips and glutes. But how much upper body muscle mass do you need in basketball and how much can you have without it affecting your touch?
When does body fat become a problem in basketball and is it always a bad thing? It's not like Cousins is chubby.
 
Robinson was indeed very toned, but also had a different body type than Cousins. Anthony Davis actually reminds me of Robinson a bit - huge shoulders and a strong upper body but relatively slender hips and glutes. But how much upper body muscle mass do you need in basketball and how much can you have without it affecting your touch?
When does body fat become a problem in basketball and is it always a bad thing? It's not like Cousins is chubby.

Well not so much issue with his size but more so conditioning. Several times in this game Collison or whoever was bringing the ball up had to egg Cousins on to get down the floor on offense. Understandably it'll take awhile to get back in prime conditioning after the injury, but I do think that for how Karl wants to play (just getting into the offense earlier) Cousins needs to be in slightly better shape to be able to play both ends well in Karl's system, especially as the season wears on and even more so if we're hoping for our season to extend beyond April (keeping in mind that Cousins has never played hard that late into the season, and that's precisely where we'll need him at his best). Pre-injury he wasn't exactly hustling back on defense all the time either.
 
I don't agree that he should lose weight......Just tone up. David Robinson was an athletic bodybuilder guy, and strong as hell. You don't need to have "bulk/fat" to bully your opponents with strength.

Robinson was also accused of being soft his whole career.

Cousins was in great shape at the start of the season. Injuries have hurt his conditioning, but you can already see a difference as he is getting healthy.
 
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