[Grades] Grades v. Rockets 02/10/2013

Player of the win?

  • Salmons

    Votes: 5 20.0%
  • Cousins

    Votes: 3 12.0%
  • Thomas

    Votes: 9 36.0%
  • Hayes

    Votes: 8 32.0%

  • Total voters
    25
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Two in a row. Now personally, winning a game on the backs of Chuck Hayes and Isaiah Thomas and John Salmons is as exciting as...well its not. But I do believe we have to win games to keep the home fans interested enough to send a mesage to the BOG -- I've seen this game before, and everytime the home fans have quit down the stretch of a season with a move looming, they lose their team. Perhaps deservedly. So at this point I'll take this victory or any other. We won. They lost. Keep showing up Sacto and make it hard for them to take the team.

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Full Grading Consortium for tonight:
Bricklayer
Capt. Factorial
bajaden


Boxscore


Stats: 36min 23pts (6-14, 4-7, 7-7) 1reb 6ast 2stl 0blk 2TO
Salmons ( B+ ) -- tough grades abound in this one. You had guys who were good for a half, or a quarter. Guys with minutes limited by fouls. Guys playing outside their roles. The how/what of which grading scale to choose is a challenge. Case in point: John Salmons. John notched 23pts with 6 assists tonight. That is easily one of his best statlines of the season, and miles from what he normally gives on a given night. And yet I think I have been more comfortable with games in which there has been less John. Aside from another one of our coach's bizarre I draw up a play for the worst player on the court out of timeout plays, John was offensively quiet in the early going and indeed the difficulty of grading this is that we were all Cousins all the time through the mid third. Missed several early jumpers, and had some trouble staying in front of Parsons on some early possessions, but Parsons didn't do much with those opportunties and was never a factor. Was the #2 defender on Harden when Reke had to sit with fouls, and got an early steal jumping a pick and roll Houston was trying to run for The Beard. Per usual Harden was doing a lot of his scoring in the open court or off of scrambled rotations, so hard to assess John's 1 on 1 work there. When he returned for the last 5 min of the half had lost the touch and missed shots out of rhythm before finally hitting another 3 in the last minute or so. Hit another three on a dangerous pass from Tyreke in the mid 3rd, and up until that time I had a decent handle on his game and grade. He was playing spot up Salmons, had started slow, but was hitting them as the game went on, which is as always the helpful roleplayer thing to do. The difficulty began around about the time we lost Cousins. The whole tone of the game shifted and we got in trouble, in part as John Salmons somehow decided he had the greenlight and started to play a very ball dominant and at times selfish role. Part of that may have been the bizarre sudden appearance of Jimmer, who didn't do well and needed all the help he could get. It was chciken and egg whether it was caused by or the cause of Tyreke's passivity, but for whatever reason, John took it upon himself to become The Man. And that's just tough, because that concept makes me ill, and yet he can point to the jumbotron and say "scoreboard!" to me on this one. To add an extra wrinkle, after fading back a bit in the 4th, when IT did the same thing and annointed himself The Man...and again succeeeded, John may have sealed the game for us with 5 FTs in the final 1min 10sec of the game. This grade flummuxes me. How about "Good job John! Don't do it again!" --Brick

Stats: 33min 12pts (6-10, 0-0, 0-0) 7reb 1ast 1stl 2blk 1TO
Thompson ( B ) -- JT had a hit-and-miss defensive night but played very good defense when it counted down the stretch. First he had a sequence where he made the right read to rotate over to Asik in the low post, forcing a kick-out, then ran out on the uncovered Delfino to bother him into missing the three. Then he got two hands on a big rebound with under a minute to go that was knocked out of bounds by Asik. Despite the fact that the ball was called Kings' ball originally and the replay clearly showed it going off of Asik's slap, the refs inexplicably reversed the call. But JT don't care. JT just blocks Harden's shot in the lane and subsequently gets a "real" rebound to basically seal the game. In the first quarter he also had a very nice sequence where he blocked Asik in the post then got down the floor and into the lane for a transition bucket. In the third he made a very smart foul to prevent a fast break and also forced Asik into a travel. But he had trouble both on fast break defense, giving up a layup to Lin and fouling Harden for an and-1, and outside of the last minute of the game generally didn't do a very good job of helping on the drive. Offensively, his jumper wasn't falling tonight, though he took two from about 21 feet which is probably just a bit outside of his range. He made up for that by scoring pretty effectively in the lane, capped by not one but two spectacular putback dunks - one on each of his offensive rebounds. His rebound total wasn't outstanding, but he was working out there. All-in-all, a nice game but not as nice as yesterday. --Capt.

Stats: 24min 20pts (9-14, 0-0, 2-3) 7reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Cousins ( A- ) -- another tough grade. Was playing a really strong game until his old friend foul trouble jumped up and stole the game from him. The Rockets, who have a hole in their frontcourt that jumps from giant lumbering centers straight to undersized PFs with nobody inbetween just very obviously had nobody who could contend with Boogie's combination of size and quickness. From the start he faked Asik off the ground and drove to the hoop, and then with the big guy giving ground, Cuz began to just flat pepper him with jumper after jumper. Then when the Rockets went to the slightly less lumbering Cole Aldrich, Boogie just started driving on him and killed him just as bad to the hoop as he had been beating Asik form the outside. But he began the third picking up his 3rd foul fighting for posiiton while waiitng for an entry pass from Reke, and he and we were into the danger zone. Came up with his play of the game when he missed a corner jumper then flew in for an atheltic offensve rebound tip to himself and hook to finish over Asik. But then our prospects for victory looked like they might take a fatal blow in th mid quarter as IT made a bad TO up trying to bring the ball up and getting it flat taken away by Parsons, and Boogie picked up his 4th foul trying to stop the resulting breakout. And all of a sudden we had lost the guy carrying us -- at the time Boogie had 20pts in 22 minnutes, and nobody else on the team was even in double figures. And with the team predictably floundering, when we tried to bring Cuz back in the early 4th before we fell too far behind, he almost instantly picked up his 5th foul and that was it. He was done, and it sure looked like we were as well. So tough to grade again. But damn 20pts 7rebs in 24 minutes = dominance. This was a 30pt night interrupted by the whistles. --Brick

Stats: 23min 6pts (3-7, 0-1, 0-0) 4reb 4ast 1stl 0blk 2TO
Evans ( D+ ) -- Not sure what Tyreke's problem was tonight, but he was invisible for parts of the game. Maybe it was chasing Hardin all over the floor. Whatever the reason, Hardin got the better of it tonight. 23 minutes and 6 points just isn't going to cut it for our second best player. He started by missing a 20 foot jumper. He scored his first basket on a fast break layup. Almost immediately he fouled Hardin, and went to the bench for most of the 1st half, coming back at 5:15 of the 2nd quarter. He ended the 1st half with a nice baseline move and basket, and on the next possession he made a tough fingerroll in a crowd. Unfortunately, that was about it for the night as scoring was concerned. He started the 2nd half by missing an open three. A bit later, he missed a 17 footer. He appears to be falling away again on his jumpshots. He did penetrate the lane, and make a beautiful pass to Salmons to hit the three. Unfortunately he followed that by stealing the ball, going end to end and then getting called for a charge. He left the game with 1:53 left in the 3rd never to return. He did a few things well, like his 4 assists, and played hard defense on Hardin, and at times on Delfino. But other than that, not a good night.--Baja

Stats: 33min 23pts (4-10, 2-3, 13-13) 1reb 6ast 2stl 0blk 2TO
Thomas ( B+ ) -- The grades here aren't getting any easier. This time you have IT, who was playing a perfectly drab little low C type of game, and who even screwed up and turned the ball over to cost us our dominant center for the game with foul troubles in the mid third...and who then comes on in the 4th, with no justification or earned right to the ball, takes it, dominates it, and completely dominates the Rockets PGs with one of "those quarters" he has had 3 or 4 times this year. This time he scores 17pts in the 4th quarter, many coming at the foul line as he fouled out the not quick enough Lin and out Hardened Harden. And we get a victory on the backs of an unlikely pairing of Isaiah Thomas and Chuck Hayes. He had brought as all the way back by the mid 4th, retying the game on a +1 on the break. He pulls up fpr a dumb, selfish, 1 on 1 3pt shot off his dribble at the 3min mark...and hits it to give us a lead we do not relinquish. And then he and Salmons seal the game hitting all their FTs down the stretch. So what does 3/4 of poor work and one quarter of game winning work get you for a grade? I think I may just shave my head so that this job won't make me pull out anymore of my hair. --Brick
 
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Bench

Stats: 19min 3pts (1-4, 1-4, 0-0) 1reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 2TO
Thornton ( F ) -- Sorry, but he played like he had his head in the clouds tonight. 3 points in 19 minutes. No assists, no steals, and 1 rebound. I mean, just what was he doing out there. Nothing was happening for him, so he decided to force the issue and go into his one on one mode. All he acomplished was turning the ball over. When he wasn't missing open looks, he was driving into traffic and turning the ball over. There's just not much else to say. He contributed nothing to the win, except make Cisco look better than he was. --Baja

Stats: 15min 6pts (3-11, 0-0, 0-0) 7reb 0ast 1stl 0blk 2TO
Robinson ( D- ) -- Another disappointing game from Robinson tonight. He entered the game late in the first quarter and immediately went to his default defense, which is to stand right by the lane while his man camps out for a corner three. The result? Two wide open three point attempts in two possessions, one made. Defensively, Robinson still leaves so much to be desired. And what about rebounding? Well, you might like his total of 7 tonight in limited minutes, but a look at what actually happened should temper that a bit. His first - and only - defensive rebound of the game came in his first second on the floor when he grabbed an uncontested FT miss. From that point onward his only other near defensive rebound was poked out of his hands for a turnover that doesn't show up in the stat sheets. His "bad hands" problem is continuing apace. On his six offensive rebounds, he immediately put the ball back up on five of them and only hit one. That's an unacceptable 20% and basically makes those offensive rebounds useless. Offensively, he went 2-6 even if you don't count those putback attempts, the misses being a forced "black hole" jumper, a missed layup, getting blocked in the post, and an ill-advised dunk attempt in traffic from Dr. J range - none of them acceptable shots (or in the case of the layup, acceptable outcomes). Add two ugly turnovers, one on a pass to nobody and another on an offensive three-second violation and it's hard to make the case that Robinson wasn't hurting us pretty badly out there tonight. --Capt.

Stats: 18min 11pts (4-7, 3-4, 0-0) 3reb 1ast 1stl 0blk 1TO
Garcia ( C ) -- Not sure he deserves a C, but I have to give someone I covered a decent score. Stat wise, he doesn't look too bad. 11 points in 18 minutes on 4 of 7 shooting. It was really a tale of two halfs. He came in at 11:41 of the 2nd quarter, and got frozen in place by Delfino under the basket who scored. But other than that, Cisco played pretty good defense when he was on the floor tonight. His only offensive contribution was a 16 footer, and before he went to the bench, he hit a three pointer off a pass by Tyreke. In the second half, he made a nice block on Parsons from behind, that he didn't get credit for. He hit an open three, that was badly needed at the time, and a bit later, with 3:40 left in the game, he hit another three to give the Kings the lead. Prior to that, he had passed up an open three, put the ball on the floor and walked. So it wasn't that great a night for Cisco, but along with Hayes, JT, Salmons and IT, he was part of a unit that won the game. And that has to count for something. --Baja

Stats: 7min 2pts (1-3, 0-0, 0-0) 2reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Brooks ( INC ) -- was back in the rotation in the first half for whatever reason, and probably did better than the numbers indicate. The shots he took were selfish (including a stupid force on the break into heavy traffic), but he did hit a long jumper, 1 on 1 off his dribble of course. And he did a few other things -- made a nice drive and dish and dropoff to Hayes that did not net an assist only because its Hayes. Grabbed a nice strong rebound taking it away from big ole Asik inside. And then for whatever reason after half Smart goes with Jimmer, who sucked eggs as we fell apart. No rhyme or reason to it. Ok outing neither demanding nor foreclosing more miinutes next game. And the thing is there is absolutely no way to tell which it will be. --Brick

Stats: 24min 8pts (2-4, 0-0, 4-4) 12reb 3ast 1stl 0blk 0TO
Hayes ( A- ) -- Hayes was probably the third-best player wearing white on the floor tonight, if not higher. He had only a short stint in the first half, forcing one turnover and disrupting an entry pass but otherwise not catching the eye. In the third, his game picked up, making a half hook in the lane, getting an offensive rebound and putback, and getting fouled in the lane to hit both free throws (Chuck hit 4-4 FTs in the game, which is almost unthinkably good for a guy with a stroke at the line like his). Towards the end of the third he got another offensive rebound and kicked it out to Jimmer for a three to put us temporarily on top. In the early fourth the entire team looked to be on the verge of collapse, and Chuck didn't play particularly well either, letting Asik get around him for a dunk and offering no help on a Beverly drive in the lane. He was yanked but came back in 21 seconds later when Cousins picked up his fifth foul and anchored the team down the stretch. Things immediately turned around from that point, with Chuck grabbing three quick boards, finding IT on the break for two free throws on the third. He then played some killer defense on Marcus Morris on the sideline, running him back and forth until Morris stepped on the line and turned it over, and followed that up by turning another rebound into a quick IT three. In total, Hayes grabbed 6 rebounds, all defensive, in the final 9.5 minutes, and outside of losing Asik in the lane for a dunk on one play, probably made about zero other mistakes during that stretch. Hey, I'd like to see DeMarcus on the floor at the end of the game as much as anybody else, but Hayes was playing out of his mind and was a big reason why we won the game. Tonight was Chuck's night to close it out and he got it done. --Capt.

Stats: 8min 3pts (1-3, 1-1, 0-0) 1reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Fredette ( INC ) -- Jimmer only played 8 minutes. He did take 3 shots and made one, a three pointer. To be honest, it didn't seem he was on the floor for 8 minutes. Just not enough time to give a fair grade. --Baja
 
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Chuckwagon A++++

Uh-oh. You're going to be a bit disappointed with the official grade! Then again, I'm hard grader and I haven't seen an A+ yet. Chuck fell a bit short of perfection tonight, but he did have a very good game.
 
Uh-oh. You're going to be a bit disappointed with the official grade! Then again, I'm hard grader and I haven't seen an A+ yet. Chuck fell a bit short of perfection tonight, but he did have a very good game.

I'd say his best, so far, as a King.

Might've had something to do with the fact he was playing his former team.
 
Perhaps the best team game along with Jazz game all year. so they show what they can really do for two games and get our hopes up. Really great to see Chuckwagon step up and carry the big load and JT, good ole JT, just keeps dong his thing
 
I sure enjoyed this one especially after yesterday's win. I didn't vote because picking would be a discredit to the team. Really à great team effort.
 
I'm glad we won. I can't stand Harden's beard. I reckon he has fleas living inside it that bite his opponents when they challenge his shots
 
Despite our abysmal season, we're still only the fourth worst team in the West record wise.

Yep....we are back in that 8-12 lottery pick range again. I do think that winning right now is paramount with the possibility of the team moving. Maybe we'll make a move for the playoffs? :rolleyes:
 
Long time lurker on this board, but I wanted to say what a great comeback win the team had yesterday and great game Saturday destorying the Jazz, but something's been bugging me for a while with Reke, what's up with his play, he seems pretty good on defense, but on offense it seems like he gets forgotten about out there. Rarely I see plays ran for him or anybody really. It seems like whenever he, Cuz, or Thomas gets the ball everybody just stands in place. Why is everything so stagnant? Seems like the offense has been like this for the past 5 or so years.
 
but something's been bugging me for a while with Reke, what's up with his play, he seems pretty good on defense, but on offense it seems like he gets forgotten about out there. Rarely I see plays ran for him or anybody really. It seems like whenever he, Cuz, or Thomas gets the ball everybody just stands in place. Why is everything so stagnant? Seems like the offense has been like this for the past 5 or so years.

theres a simple answer to all of this. Keith Smart. dont worry he only has like 30 games left in his coaching career
 
Long time lurker on this board, but I wanted to say what a great comeback win the team had yesterday and great game Saturday destorying the Jazz, but something's been bugging me for a while with Reke, what's up with his play, he seems pretty good on defense, but on offense it seems like he gets forgotten about out there. Rarely I see plays ran for him or anybody really. It seems like whenever he, Cuz, or Thomas gets the ball everybody just stands in place. Why is everything so stagnant? Seems like the offense has been like this for the past 5 or so years.

At times Evans looks to me like he doesn't even want to bother trying moving without the ball on offense because he knows he's not going to get the ball. This usually happens when John or IT are handling the ball. And IMO you can't really blame him for that, because with the way IT plays the natural thing for wing players to do is to just stay put on the 3 point line. IT keeps his dribble alive and kinda dances around in circles probing the defense, but as a result it's damn near impossible for a wing to anticipate where IT is going - if he cuts and IT ends up driving to the basket he may just get in his way. The best way to utilize IT's style of play is to have a big rolling to the basket, but again the wings stay planted to space the floor. It's either that or you run screens off the ball to get a shooter free for a mid-range jumpshot. You probably don't want Tyreke coming off screens to take jumpshots (although he did hit one against the Jazz, the usual play we run for Garcia, but we've never run it other than that one time), and as a result you have Tyreke being stuck on the perimeter for the most part.

I actually disagree with Baja's grade, and felt that Evans was starting to create a lot for others in the 3rd. I was very surprised that he only notched 4 assists on the night. He made a couple of really dumb mistakes, like the fail fastbreak, but things were starting to pick up when Smart benched him for the night. He played 23 minutes the whole game. 23 minutes, without being in foul trouble or anything.

I still maintain that getting more ballhandlers was the dumbest thing this organization has done in recent years. It's stupid because now everyone wants/thinks that they should handle the ball. And the worst part is our coach joins in the party and lets them do it. So one day IT takes Evans' role, the next he takes Salmon's role while Salmons handles etc. Do you think Danny Green would ever be the one running pick and rolls with Duncan and kicking it out to Tony Parker spotting up for 3? People get better at doing things through repetition and experience. The way Smart runs things with rotations and roles changing every night guys get about half the repetition and experience at a certain role over a season than any other normal player would
 
Long time lurker on this board, but I wanted to say what a great comeback win the team had yesterday and great game Saturday destorying the Jazz, but something's been bugging me for a while with Reke, what's up with his play, he seems pretty good on defense, but on offense it seems like he gets forgotten about out there. Rarely I see plays ran for him or anybody really. It seems like whenever he, Cuz, or Thomas gets the ball everybody just stands in place. Why is everything so stagnant? Seems like the offense has been like this for the past 5 or so years.

while the factors involved in tyreke's level of play are varied, the bevy of mismatched guards that keith smart insists on playing night in and night out is the one with the greatest impact. smart insists on making use of isaiah thomas as the team's primary ballhandler and initiator on offense. sometimes that works out all right. when thomas is hot, he's hot, just like any streaky player in the nba. but more often it doesn't work out very well. when thomas isn't playing like one of the league's "rising stars," he has very little utility as a ball-dominant chucker. as for the rest of 'em, jimmer fredette is clearly the least-skilled ball handler among the team's guards, yet he dribbles around the court as if he's steve nash most of the time. it's aggravating, because he's been at his best in his short professional career thus far as a standstill catch-and-shoot type of player. marcus thornton is inclined to launch a long jumper the minute the ball touches his hands most of the time, which is also aggravating, because he's at his best in the flow of the offense. and aaron brooks is used so inconsistently that you simply do not know what you're gonna get from him. on some rare nights he looks like a world beater. but ordinarily he fumbles about in parallel to keith smart's fumbling about. then there's tyreke evans, the team's second best player by a pretty fair margin, who just gets lost in the shuffle. keith smart knows exactly how he wants to utilize isaiah thomas, an undersized 60th pick in the draft with a 6th man ceiling, but he doesn't seem to have much idea of how to utilize tyreke evans, a power guard picked 4th in the draft who has all-star potential. tyreke's successes often occur independent of his head coach's gameplan. he (and demarcus, too, while we're at it) usually gets by on his talent alone, because his head coach is an absolute dolt with no semblance of developmental hierarchy...
 
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