[Grades] Grades v. Nuggets 2/19/16

What would iit have taken to make the playoffs?

  • Trade for Pau

    Votes: 5 9.4%
  • Trade for defensive wing

    Votes: 9 17.0%
  • Fire Karl

    Votes: 12 22.6%
  • Nothing, we are making the playoffs anyway

    Votes: 16 30.2%
  • Nothing would have made us make the playoffs

    Votes: 21 39.6%

  • Total voters
    53
  • Poll closed .

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A little shaky on the dismount, but whatever the boxscore may look like, this was a very encouraging response out of the break. Changes in playstyle and focus were evident all over the court. Cuz pounded away inside, there was great hustle on defense, our SGs contributed absolutely nothing...oh wait, not such a big change there. But our Big Three Big Three'd, everybody scrapped, even the ones who sucked. Its about all you can ask for really. Too bad we gave up so much ground before the break.


Boxscore

Stats: 41min 24pts (7-16, 4-5, 6-8) 3reb 1ast 3stl 0blk 4TO
Summary:started raining threes to keep first half offense rolling, had to work hard for points after half

Gay ( B ) -- got off to a quiet start to this one as Cuz and Rondo and a refreshed defense were doing the lifting, but stepped up perfectly after being reinserted to pick up a punchless bench crew, and poured in 4 three pointers before half. After half began to scuffle, as did much of our offense. Cuz was drawing a lot of attention, and I think tiring, and we tried to break up the workload by going to Rudy, but it just wasn't efficient, and Rudy was doing a lot of begging to the refs. Defensively picked up some hustle steals, but Gallo hurt us all night (although a number of his points came vs.smaller Anderson/Ben size defenders), and late int he game Barton became a problem.

Stats: 15min 0pts (0-0, 0-0, 0-0) 3reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Summary: don't know if we tried to get cute starting Quincy or it was about Faried, but didn't accomplish much

Acy ( C ) -- I'm not sure exactly why Acy was starting, whether its going to be permanent, or just some more Karl tinkering to matchup with Faried. Whatever it was, he didn't get a whole lot done on offense, and the combined pressure of no points out of either the PF or SG spots was making it a grind for the main guys. Defensively, however, he provided hustle, made a nice stand at the hoop after Cuz was pulled out (as well as giving the Nuggets 2pts on a goaltend), Faried was never a factor (although some of that may have been Cuz stealing his soul in the post) and if Acy was inserted to be some sort of defensive tone setter/totem rather than an actual productive player, maybe it worked. Still not well enough to earn big minutes however.

Stats: 39min 37pts (12-20, 1-1, 12-15) 20reb 2ast 1stl 4blk 6TO
Summary: attacked almost strictly inside, and Nuggets threw their whole frontline at him with little success, tired late

Cousins ( A ) -- hmm...coincidence that we fired the dribble drive assistant and the first game without him we get back the Boogie Monster pounding away inside and fouling out the other team's entire frontline? Or maybe Cuz was just honoring Malone by returning to his old stomping grounds. Regardless, this was a big big man's game from the beginning, on both ends. as he was really moving around on the backline looking for blocks as well (including a spectacular recovery and block of what looked like a surefire Manimal dunk in the first half). The only flaw for 3/4 was some turnoveritis, and some of that might have been because we tweaked some things on offense and there were times when it didn't look like Cuz knew where guys were supposed to be and threw kickout passes to empty air. By the time he re-entered the game with 9 1/2 minutes to go he was already sitting on 33pts 15rebs and had a legit shot at a 40-20 night. But he seemed to tire at the end, missed a few bunnies, and for some reason seemed to finally lose his cool i the final minute of the game, and even missed 2 FTs on a Denver intentional foul. So didn't quite wrap up the epic night in epic fashion, and see, this is what happens when you score 48 and 56 on back to back nights -- you end up at a mere 37-20 (which btw is the 3rd time in his career he's hit those numbers, tying him with Ewing and Hakeem, and leaving him behind only Sir Charles, Moses and Shaq in the last 35 years), and you only get an A.

Stats: 24min 2pts (1-7, 0-3, 0-0) 2reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Summary:combined with Anderson to give us a whole lot of nothing at SG, scored his lone hoop at the final buzzer

McLemore ( D ) -- gave us next to nothing, and amusingly his only hoop of the night came at the very closing buzzer on a little padding score. But for most of the night was not hurting us beyond his invisibility. The only time he did try to do anything, during what I assume was a planned stretch of the third quarter when we tried to get him going, he was awful, missing shots and turning it over. But then he returned to mere invisibility, and played some notably aggressive defense down the stretch. On the anti-Cuz principle, when you barely produce most nights, a 0pt night is not necessarily an F as long as you hustle and seemed to contribute to overall scheme.

Stats: 39min 24pts (8-16, 4-6, 4-6) 10reb 9ast 5stl 0blk 4TO
Summary: was really on with his game from the start and nearly another triple double, this time with 5 hustle steals and 4 corner threes

Rondo ( A ) -- Rondo was not as dominant as Cuz, but its hard not to give him an A for his night's work too. Given his ridiculous 11.9 ast/gm pace, his passing actually was not exceptional by his standards, but he also contributed by bombing in 4 first half corner threes as we smoked the Nuggets, and all night long he showed far more defensive hustle than we've seen out of him. Several of those 5 steals were of the smart just sniff out the play/pass and run out like a cornerback for the pick sort of plays and along with Collison and the other guards, he was aggressively after guys up top. Doesn't deserve the only, or possibly even the main credit for Mudiay's bad night -- in fact half of that was on Mudiay hismelf. But he certainly won the matchup in blowout fashion. Pretty much nothing he didn't do well out there this time.


Bench

Stats: 14min 10pts (5-5, 0-0, 0-0) 3reb 0ast 0stl 3blk 1TO
Cauley-Stein ( A- ) -- back to the bench because...reasons I guess. So instead came in off the bench and in 14 minutes flew up and down the court taking alley oops on one end, and along with Cousins especially flying around for some true big men defensive plays, with both bigs going hard for blocks and making drives difficult.

Stats: 33min 17pts (7-15, 1-5, 2-2) 2reb 2ast 2stl 0blk 1TO
Collison ( B ) -- gave us an extra weapon off the bench, and while eventually it ended up a relatively mediocre 17pts on 15 shots, it was much less of the wild stuff we have sometimes seen. Had to pick up many of the SG duties with nobody else at the position contributing anything, but the Rondo/Collison combo worked better this time, a both little guys were up harassing Nuggets ballhandlers well above the arc.

Stats: 24min 0pts (0-2, 0-1, 0-0) 1reb 1ast 1stl 0blk 3TO
Anderson ( F ) -- now Ben contributed very little, and for a stretch in the third was flat bad. But Anderson flat Keystone Copped it out there. He was flat bad from beginning to end, fumbled catches, made bad decision, including multiple poor fouls on defense. He had to play minutes, despite the badness he was hustling out there as guys were trying. But He just couldn't do anything right and actively hurt us at multiple points. The person who said we were playing 4 on 5 was pretty much right.

Stats: 10min 0pts (0-1, 0-0, 0-0) 0reb 0ast 0stl 1blk 1TO
Koufos ( F ) -- maybe he didn't like hearing his name in trade rumors, maybe Acy's addition and his reduction to mostly just Cuz backup bothered him, or maybe it was jsut a bad matchup against a much more mobile opponent. But whatever it was, Kosta got his ass handed to him by Joffrey Lauvergne who ran past him and around him play after play for easy scores and boards, and who became the latest just another guy guy to have a career night against us.

Stats: 1min 2pts (1-1, 0-0, 0-0) 1reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Curry ( INC ) -- just came in for the one minute, and got a fun little o-reb and finish inside amongst the big boys as there was a pileup on Boogie alley. cuz seemed to get a kick out of it.
 
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I vote for not have dogged it over the last 10 games, regardless of schemes if the players played with todays effort post Charlotte loss they would have at least gone .500 over that stretch instead of 2-10. I mean if they would have won 3 of those games (Charlotte, at NO, at Brooklyn) they would be 26-28 right now and right in the thick of the fight. It wasn't even win a tough drag out game, those should have been come in, take care of business wins.
 
Cousins on if the Kings are going away from switching: “I believe so."
Let's hope so!

Great win by the team and its a step in the right direction. However, the turnovers need to stop. We kept giving the ball away and Nuggest scored off our turnovers too easily. We still needed big games from Cuz, Rudy, Collison and a near triple double from Rondo. Keep the turnovers down and more production from the bench please!
 
Let's hope so!

Great win by the team and its a step in the right direction. However, the turnovers need to stop. We kept giving the ball away and Nuggest scored off our turnovers too easily. We still needed big games from Cuz, Rudy, Collison and a near triple double from Rondo. Keep the turnovers down and more production from the bench please!
Well, we were slightly short on bench scorers tonight, I remind you... :)
(Casspi & Belz are responsible for about half of our bench points this season, I imagine)
 
It really is amazing how much harder this Kings team has had to play to get a win.
Even with big games by their Big Three + great contributions from Willie and Collison, they still barely win.

Contrast this with years past, when if the Kings got good games from even 2 of Tyreke, Boogie, and IT they frequently won.
 
Cousins is a monster, unbelievable game, 37 points and 20 rebounds it's unreal, Rondo should also be mentioned as he was one assist shy from a triple-double, he also had 24 points, I was looking forward to watch this game, but when I heard Casspi was inactive I decided to go to sleep.

Let's go Kings.
 
A little shaky on the dismount, but whatever the boxscore may look like, this was a very encouraging response out of the break. Changes in playstyle and focus were evident all over the court. Cuz pounded away inside, there was great hustle on defense, our SGs contributed absolutely nothing...oh wait, not such a big change there. But our Big Three Big Three'd, everybody scrapped, even the ones who sucked. Its about all you can ask for really. Too bad we gave up so much ground before the break.


Boxscore

Stats: 41min 24pts (7-16, 4-5, 6-8) 3reb 1ast 3stl 0blk 4TO
Summary:started raining threes to keep first half offense rolling, had to work hard for points after half

Gay ( ) --

Stats: 15min 0pts (0-0, 0-0, 0-0) 3reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Summary: don't know if we tried to get cute starting Quincy or it was about Faried, but didn't accomplish much

Acy ( ) --

Stats: 39min 37pts (12-20, 1-1, 12-15) 20reb 2ast 1stl 4blk 6TO
Summary: attacked almost strictly inside, and Nuggets threw their whole frontline at him with little success, tired late

Cousins ( ) --

Stats: 24min 2pts (1-7, 0-3, 0-0) 2reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Summary:combined with Anderson to give us a whole lot of nothing at SG, scored his lone hoop at the final buzzer

McLemore ( ) --

Stats: 39min 24pts (8-16, 4-6, 4-6) 10reb 9ast 5stl 0blk 4TO
Summary: was really on with his game from the start and nearly another triple double, this time with 5 hustle steals and 4 corner threes

Rondo ( ) --

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I think we have to start counting collison in those SG min. After all that's where he played 80% of the time last night
 
Boogie is unbelievable. Gay had a good night overall. Rondo was Rondo with a touch of Steph Curry. Collison was great too.

WCS completely changes the game defensively. There were quite a few possessions where Cuz/WCS/Koufos were just swatting and altering everything in sight, it's a thing of beauty to see.

This is also a perfect example of why WCS was the right pick for us ahead of Mudiay. Mudiay could end up being the better player down the road, but he wouldn't have fit into this team, whereas WCS is contributing in a big way when Karl lets him play.
 
Karl's defense beat Malone's defense by 7 points. We're coming along. Do it again in Denver and we win the big stuffed elephant.
 
Interesting comments from Michael Malone that confirms what many of us already suspected regarding who fired him. It wasn't PDA.

“Obviously, that team fired me. They didn’t think I was good enough to lead them going forward. That’s their loss. I’m in a better place, I’m working with better people. So I don’t go in there with any animosity at all.
They gave me a great opportunity, and as an owner you have the right to get rid of people whenever you want. And that’s the decision they made. Ever since I got fired, what’s happened in that time speaks for itself. I’m just happy I’m in a place with good people who communicate with each other, and we’re all operating on the same page.”

When Malone says "better place" and "better people", he wouldn't know since he never worked with anybody currently in the front office. The only constant is Vivek.
 
Interesting comments from Michael Malone that confirms what many of us already suspected regarding who fired him. It wasn't PDA.



When Malone says "better place" and "better people", he wouldn't know since he never worked with anybody currently in the front office. The only constant is Vivek.

Has anything changed about who fired him? I think it has always been the work/agreement of PDA, Mullin and Ranadive. The one that sat down and fired him would be the one that hired him.
 
It really is amazing how much harder this Kings team has had to play to get a win.
Even with big games by their Big Three + great contributions from Willie and Collison, they still barely win.

Contrast this with years past, when if the Kings got good games from even 2 of Tyreke, Boogie, and IT they frequently won.

The problem is in you first sentence "playing hard". That shouldn't be a factor for an NBA team. You can have bad shooting nights, make mistakes, turnovers etc. thats part of the game but playing hard should be an automatic for any professional basketball player and that has been lacking this season to go along with shoddy coaching.
 
It really is amazing how much harder this Kings team has had to play to get a win.
Even with big games by their Big Three + great contributions from Willie and Collison, they still barely win.

Contrast this with years past, when if the Kings got good games from even 2 of Tyreke, Boogie, and IT they frequently won.

Turnovers and mediocre defense.

Mediocre defense on our team looks amazing.
 
Kings weren't perfect, but that game was a blast to be at. Intensity was great, a little chippiness early - came away with the win. And the court & retro uniforms was a great look. All in all, a great evening at Sleep Train. If they keep up the intensity like this, win or lose, I'll be a happy customer.
Just wondering since I didn't see it on tv. How was malone's reception when they announced him?
 
Interesting comments from Michael Malone that confirms what many of us already suspected regarding who fired him. It wasn't PDA.

When Malone says "better place" and "better people", he wouldn't know since he never worked with anybody currently in the front office. The only constant is Vivek.

In Amick's most recent article about the Kings there's a direct quote from Malone saying that to this day he doesn't know whose decision it was to fire him.
 
In Amick's most recent article about the Kings there's a direct quote from Malone saying that to this day he doesn't know whose decision it was to fire him.
Pete got rid of Isaiah against the wishes of Malone and common sense. He also undermined his success by disallowing him from hiring the assistant he wanted and hired someone else instead.

There were reports Malone and Pete relationship had devolved and rarely spoke. Pete was also threatened by the close relationship between Boogie and Malone.

He was also insecure in his role as a new GM so much so he allowed Vivek to pick Nik instead of taking leadership and doing his damn job. This decision process was so botched it led to Shareef leaving the organization when Elfrid Payton was not the pick.

Pete played dirty politics out of self-preservation including trying to promote Mullin to a cushy position and create a power structure to assure both of their places in the organization.

I believe this weasel also worked on political campaigns before this job so we should not be surprised. All of this happened before the decision to fire Malone was made...so fans should not forget this!

And how can anyone forget when the team folded under Corbin it was not long after that Vlade was promoted above Pete before the guy abandoned ship.

Vivek lost confidence and faith in his GM and this is because Pete sold Vivek on the idea that the team would no worse (or better off) without Malone at the helm. When the opposite occurred Vivek knew this guys judgement could not be trusted.
 
Kings weren't perfect, but that game was a blast to be at. Intensity was great, a little chippiness early - came away with the win. And the court & retro uniforms was a great look. All in all, a great evening at Sleep Train. If they keep up the intensity like this, win or lose, I'll be a happy customer.
A little chippiness should become part of our game plan if we play a team that thinks they can gang up on Boogie OR can be intimidated.


Addendum: I mean chippiness not initiated by Cuz.
 
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The style changes had an impact. The real test is to see if Karl sticks to them, especially when shots don't drop and he's ready to revert to trying to cherry pick some points.

The defense was better, but not entirely changed. They did switch less, but I didn't notice new concepts. They just stopped doing so much of that hand-off the player defense. I still saw some of it on the perimeter in the 4th. However, they had been getting burned on players cutting through the middle and getting lost in the zone. Guys seemed to follow their man off the ball far better. Switching mostly occurring with the ball handler.

I felt like the change in pace actually helped the Rondo/Collison mini backcourt experiment. In the fast-paced, constant-break setup, Collison becomes a leak-out streaker in the two-PG line-ups. However, he isn't big enough to catch over the top passes or drive hard through traffic. Int he slower pace, he was able to mix in his 3pt shooting off-ball and PG play in ISOs.
 
Interesting comments from Michael Malone that confirms what many of us already suspected regarding who fired him. It wasn't PDA.



When Malone says "better place" and "better people", he wouldn't know since he never worked with anybody currently in the front office. The only constant is Vivek.

Well, in Sam Amick's article, Malone says specifically that it WAS PDA who fired him. It's being discussed in another thread. At this point, I don't care who fired him. I just care about what happened last night and what happens going forward. And last night, I saw heart, hustle, energy and effort. :)
 
A little chippiness should become part of our game plan if we play a team that thinks they can gang up on Boogie OR can be intimidated.


Addendum: I mean chippiness not initiated by Cuz.

Which is exactly what Doug Christie has been calling for. I liked what I saw last night, and I think what I enjoyed most was seeing the team playing to their strengths...and apparently liking what they were doing. ;)
 
The problem is in you first sentence "playing hard". That shouldn't be a factor for an NBA team. You can have bad shooting nights, make mistakes, turnovers etc. thats part of the game but playing hard should be an automatic for any professional basketball player and that has been lacking this season to go along with shoddy coaching.

That's the most remarkable aspect about this team. It's clear as day when they're committed to playing hard and when they aren't. Last night was a great example; plenty of mistakes, but you visibly saw the effort and attempt to be good on the defensive end. That's what's been missing for a good chunk of this season and especially the last 10 games.
 
A little chippiness should become part of our game plan if we play a team that thinks they can gang up on Boogie OR can be intimidated.


Addendum: I mean chippiness not initiated by Cuz.

That is something I did not think before until the yesterday's game.
Once when the game is chippy, refs have to call more fouls to keep things under control, meaning no more hack-a-boogie without whistle.
 
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