[Grades] Grades v. Lakers 2/28/2014

We are now 0-10 without Cuz. If he had missed the entire season, how many would we win out of 82?

  • 0

    Votes: 17 28.8%
  • 1-9

    Votes: 11 18.6%
  • 10-19

    Votes: 25 42.4%
  • 20-29

    Votes: 4 6.8%
  • 30-39

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 40-49

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 50+

    Votes: 2 3.4%

  • Total voters
    59
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
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As my grandma used to say: goodness gracious sakes alive. Actually I don't know if she said that entire phrase or not. But she was a tough old southern lady, and if she was watching stuff like this she might have. Think that's 0-10 now on the season without Cousins. You have to wonder just what would our record be this year if he missed the entire season. he should start getting darkhorse MVP votes because apparently he's worth about 30 wins a season by himself.

So...we got D'Antoni'd in the ugliest way. I don't know if it ended up being a record for them from three point land, but it was close. Just absolutely bombed us into the stone age. Pretty much all of our starters except for Ben, who is in a potentially career altering death spiral at this point, put up big pretty numbers the other way. Evans once again really helped off the bench. He's handy. The new guy, Johnson, came in and looked better than his numbers. But as I have said too may times this season, a sickening number of times, the problem isn't the scoring. A good team should be able to go 82-0 if they scored 122pts a night. We score 122 and lose. that's pathetic.

Theme will be...give me a min. Actually have several queued up. Believe it or not I was actually guessing we might lsoe a few before the end of the season. Alright, Theme = Phenakistocopes

Your Consoritum Graders tonight:
Bricklayer
Uncia03
Capt. Factorial
MassacheusettsKingsFan


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Stats: 41min 32pts (11-22, 1-4, 9-9) 7reb 5ast 2stl 1blk 2TO
Gay ( A ) -- The Lakers decided to go small and play Kent Bazemore who is a SG at the SF spot which of course is a great match-up for Rudy due to his good size and length. And Rudy took advantage of that match-up all night long. With Cousins out, Rudy handled the ball a lot. He directed traffic, found open guys, posted up, used screens to attack the rim, and all-in-all played a smart offensive game. He wasn’t on from the 3pt line going 1-4, but other than those shots and a couple of isolation contested forced jumpers he picked his spots and hurt the Lakers non-existent defense. He had a really efficient 1st half going 6-9 for 15 points and 2 assists. In the 2nd half he forced it a bit more going 5-13, but he also notched another 3 assists and would have picked up a couple more had guys made some shots. What was great about Rudy’s game in this one was that he was aggressively at the rim all night long. He ended up at the line 9 times which was the 2nd most of any player and he hit all of his free throws, which greatly improved his overall performance. He took a few too many difficult outside shots, but his aggressive play at the rim easily made up for those bad possessions. Bazemore was able to use his quickness to beat Rudy a couple of times, but Rudy dominated that match-up with his length and smooth scoring touch. He rebounded pretty well, though he probably could have had more due to his size advantage, but we killed the Lakers on the boards 44-31 and Rudy definitely won his match-up. It was probably a tough game for Rudy since he dominated his match-up only to see the Laker’s PGs, SGs, & Centers decisively win their match-ups to pull out the victory. Even though there were never huge stretches where it felt as if Rudy was dominating the ball, he picked his spots well and played a good #1 option game with great over-all performance.--Uncia
So What is a Phenakistocope? -- ever see a flipbook? Or make one? I knew a girl in biology class in high school who spent the entire semester turning the corners of her textbook into a flipbook with her little stick figures doing all kinds of stuff. Anyway, the idea is simple, the same one behind stop motion animation, or really any motion picture. the 'movies" aren't really moving at all either, there are just compilations of thousands of still frames, and our eyes/brains put the picture together and imagine the movement that ties it all together (actually, that's the way our vision works too). So, 100 years before moving pictures were invented, the phenakistocope filled somewhat of a similar role. What you do is paint a series of pictures on a plate, then spin that plate, and let peoples' eyes fill in the blanks. Some of them were quite elaborate and inventive. Here's a fairly simple example showing a fair maiden emegrging from the center of the plate, and aging into an old hag as she approaches the edges:
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Stats: 40min 26pts (10-20, 0-2, 6-10) 12reb 2ast 2stl 0blk 0TO
Williams ( A ) -- The Lakers went small at the PF spot too, playing Wesley Johnson (who isn’t close to being a PF in any way shape or form). This actually allowed Williams to be able to start at PF and not be undersized. So he went into this match-up the bigger player and he played the bigger player game. One of the criticisms about Williams is that sometimes he seems to float while on the court. Well, with Cousins out, he was incredibly aggressive. He attacked the rim over and over again, leading to a game high 10 free-throw attempts. His jump shot was completely off and he missed every single jumper he attempted, but that should indicate how aggressive he was, as he scored 26 points on lay-ups, dunks, and free-throws. He bullied his way into offensive rebound position getting multiple offensive rebounds and put-backs, and in isolation situations he forced smaller defenders to either foul him or let him finish at the rim. He ran the floor to score in transition and made good cuts to the rim and finishing at a high rate when teammates found him. In addition, he was a monster on the boards…at least in the 1st half. He finished the 1st half with 10 rebounds, including 4 rebounds in the last 2 minutes of the half. In the 2nd half his rebounding died down considerably as he did not manage a single rebound in the 3rd quarter and had just 2 offensive rebounds (and put-backs) in the 4th quarter. This great game really only worked because he wasn’t facing a traditional PF or even an undersized one, but rather a straight SF in Johnson, but it was very encouraging to see him take full advantage of his opportunity and match-up to have a great night. Hopefully we’ll continue to see strong performances from Williams through the rest of the season. --Uncia
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Scrambling Mice

Stats: 29min 17pts (8-12, 0-0, 1-2) 11reb 2ast 1stl 0blk 1TO
Thompson ( B+ ) -- ok, I am worried about too much grade inflation in what was after all a pretty bad loss to our fellow WC cellar dwellers, but damn if I don't have a hard time seeing how that can really be laid at JT's feet. Our guards got absolutely annihilated on defense -- Jodie Meeks, MarShon Brooks and Jordan Farmar combined for 75pts on 14-16 from 3pt land(!!) (career averages of 9.1, 8.0 and 7.8pts). JT is not a guard, and in fact was matched up with by far the most talented/accomplished Laker left in uniform at center. And he held his own and then some. In the early going despite looking comfortable on offense, it looked like he might hack his way out of a strong game, as he committed multiple overbanging fouls just slamming into Pau and then complaining to the refs about how he hadn't done anything. He picked up his third foul again slamming into Pau's chest, this time on offense, in the final minutes of the half. But he came out the second half determined and physical, was on the glass, came up with several offensive follows inside, and mostly kept Pau out on the perimeter on defense. Got back in the game for the stretch run, and di not have as much luck. Got fouled but only split a pair, and got blocked at the rim at the 2:30 mark. The overall game was solid though, and while Pau had a good offensive game, overall it may not have been JT's equal, and a number of his points came while Jason was on the bench. This was strong/solid, certainly about all you could ask given the circumstances. --Brick
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Leap Frog

Stats: 30min 0pts (0-4, 0-4, 0-0) 2reb 2ast 2stl 0blk 1TO
McLemore ( F ) -- Dire. It would be picking on the kid, except the kid is right out front and center picking on us. Or maybe the coaches are picking on him by insisting on executing PDA's oh crap oh crap maybe we ****ed up play him til he drops plan. Whatever the truth of it, here's what dire means: since being handed the keys to the position 5 games ago at the trade deadline, Ben has combined to average 7.2pts on 11-43 shooting (.256), 4-20 from 3pt land (.200) in 30min a night. Then there's the little question of what his opponents are averaging. So what was dire Friday night edition? Well how about getting outscored 45-0 at his position. 45. To ZERO. Now there is slight fudge there in that Marshon Brooks and Jodie Meeks played some minutes together, and of course Ben could not play every minute against them. indeed even under orders at several points Malone had had enough and benched him in favor of a second round pick (shades of Jimmer's predicament) or a waiver wire claim we picked up 2 days ago. But it was what it was. Almost completely uninvolved on offense -- basically would get one three point brick a quarter, that was it. Late in the third got himself yanked after he committed another almost funny ballhandling error leading him into an offensive foul on the break. And on defense... will somebody please slap him? Nice kid, but watching the same thing happen 100 times in a row with no apparent learning curve is enough to make you into an advocate of corporeal punishment. How many times, HOW MANY TIMES, do we have to see Ben just cluelessly duck UNDER a screen against a guy lighting him up? How many times do we have to see him bounce around half in the lane, half out, "helping" while his man spots up and waits for the open three? He got slaughtered out there by nobodies (Brooks and Meeks combined to shoot 17-21!), even went under a screen to let Farmar have one of his EIGHT threes as well, and maybe the slaughter is finally effecting the effort, because there were times when the resistance was not there, where it looked like he was just going through the motions and gingerly following and wandering around in a shellshocked haze. To add insult, got scored over by Brooks inside for maybe the game sealer in the final minute. I have been quietly questioning his fight, his fire and desire, but tonight moreso than ever. I think he may have been relieved when he wasn't in the game after a while. So first 5 games of his audition for next year's lineup have been an utter disaster. Now March dawns, and this is it. If he has another terrible month, I doubt anything he does in April, traditionally a month when many scrubs put up suddenly solid numbers, is going to change the impression. --Brick
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Children Frog Jumping Into Lion Mouths? -- as I mentioned, some of them are quite strange and inventive.

Stats: 32min 26pts (10-16, 2-2, 4-5) 8reb 2ast 1stl 2blk 5TO
Thomas ( B- ) -- With DeMarcus Cousins serving his suspension tonight, I figured we’d see a lot more of Thomas gunning in this one than we actually did. He was deferring quite a bit to both Rudy Gay and Derrick Williams early (only 4 shots in the first quarter), and both of those guys were able to get their offense going. When he returned in the second quarter, he went on a pretty good run that felt like he had assisted or scored on every basket. I went back and looked at the play-by-play, and that backed up what I saw. With 7 and ½ minutes left in the 2nd quarter, Thomas assisted 5-straight Kings baskets, Rudy Gay hit a layup, and then Thomas closed the quarter with 7-straight points. It was the Kings best quarter of the game, and gave the Kings a healthy double-digit lead going into halftime. Thomas would sprinkle in a few more buckets and assists throughout the second half, but he never reached that same level of effectiveness. I thought he had the right approach tonight, though, and he let other guys who had good games going (Gay and Williams) keep doing what they were doing. Where his game starts to fall off a bit was on the defensive end, where I feel like it’d be appropriate to give the guards on this roster F’s across the board for how they defended the 3-point line. Now, in Thomas’ defense, he spent a majority of his time in this one defending Kendall Marshall, who didn’t score a point all game, but in the fourth quarter when the game was on the line the Kings just couldn’t defend anyone, and Thomas certainly belongs in that same company. Jordan Farmar was a real issue for the Kings point guards, but by the time Thomas was defending him in the fourth, Ray McCallum unfortunately allowed him to get hot. I’m not excusing Thomas, just pointing the fact that after Orlando Johnson, Thomas was probably the Kings second best perimeter defender. And no, that is not a complement. The Kings could not defend the Lakers guards, period. Offensively, Thomas exceeded my expectations tonight. He was efficient (something he hasn’t been with Cousins out of the lineup), and he allowed Rudy Gay to play as the first option. With how the Kings guards defended the 3-point line, though, I just can’t give him a grade higher than a B.--Mass
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This 1893 American plate by Eadweard Muybridge shows the development of a more realistic style near the end of the era. Nice animation on the horse especially.
 
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Bench
Stats: 19min 8pts (3-7, 0-0, 2-4) 9reb 2ast 3stl 0blk 1TO
Evans ( B ) -- Reggie started the game inauspiciously midway through the first, getting blocked on a jumper and looking really uncomfortable in the high post (which the Kings were going back to again and again despite Reggie's deer-in-the-headlights look). But things quickly started looking up, as he applied pressure D on Chris Kaman (two missed shots and a travel) and received a pass in the lane from Quincy Acy for his first points. That emboldening him, Reggie reached into his magic hat and pulled out a spin move in the lane capped off by a lefty jump hook. I'll let you go back and read that sentence again, because it was not a typographical error. Did you read it? Did it sink in? OK, so his offense was kind of on tonight. When he came back out in the second half he hit two free throws in one trip and then scored on a slo-mo cut where Rudy found him for a layup. But that was as far as he should have pressed his luck on offense, because from that point he followed up with a heat check in the lane, missed two putbacks (one a true chippy) and bricked two free throws before sitting for good. He was once again great on the boards, pulling down 9 in 19 minutes, and while he did blow one help assignment pretty badly (luckily the un-pressured drive was missed at the basket) he had a pretty nice defensive night. All told he allowed 6 points on 7 shots, but considering that that one Pau drive was *totally* *traveling* it was more like 4 points on 6 shots. On top of that he got three steals - I believe all of them were on quick-hands slaps, rather than passing lane stuff. Once he got Farmar on the perimeter, and perhaps the most impressive was the one he ripped from Pau in the post right before JT came in to finish up. Good effort out there. Not perfect, but good.--Capt.
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Ugly Guy Having Frogs Jump in His Mouth? -- more with the grotesque eating thing. Early phenakistocope fetish?

Stats: 23min 7pts (3-7, 1-1, 0-0) 1reb 5ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
McCallum ( C+ ) -- This was so close to being a breakout game for Ray. His performance was easily my favorite part of this one, even though it certainly tailed off in the second half. In the first half, though, you could see what kind of player the Kings want / hope he will be. He was passing extremely well, and not just for assists, either. He was moving the ball effectively, and making the right decisions. In the past, I’ve seen Ray either dribble the ball too much waiting for someone to get open, or he’d pass to someone else so fast that he never became an offensive threat. He found a good mix tonight, where he’d try and get something going early in the shot clock, and if nothing was there he’d swing it over to someone else. I have about five really effective passes written down in my notes. He found the roller on multiple pick and roll attempts, and he had a nice full court pass to Gay, to name a few. He even got a little bit of his own offense going, and he was a part of a unit that played really good team basketball. Like the rest of the guards tonight, where this performance starts to break down is on the defensive end. This is particularly disappointing for McCallum because he’s been such a solid defender all year. He just wasn’t playing Farmar tight enough, and it was McCallum who sort of gave Farmar his confidence in this one. On top of the poor defense, his second half run wasn’t nearly as effective, but there was a lot of solid basketball here overall. He’s got to do a better job defensively, and I’m sure he knows it, but this was encouraging. --Mass
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Stair Climbing? -- to escape...have no idea who the little dudes in the pit might be.

Stats: 14min 2pts (1-3, 0-0, 0-0) 0reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Acy ( F ) -- About the best thing I can say about Quincy Acy's performance tonight is that he wasn't responsible for allowing any of those threes. Well, Marshon Brooks did get one on a fast break when Acy was double- filling the paint, but that hardly counts. Acy hit a long jumper soon after he came in in the first quarter, and it was all downhill from there. He missed the remainder of his shots, he got zero rebounds on the game, and on the first possession of the fourth quarter, he passed the ball right to Jordan Farmar and luckily was able to foul him to save one point. But basically, he was invisible out there. His energy just wasn't there, his impact to the game just wasn't there. He did nothing against a bunch of D-League scrubs wearing Laker colors. Well, OK, he did do a fantastic job taking the ball out underneath the Lakers' basket, but he was getting a lot of reps so you'd expect him to have that down. Oh, and whoever made the prop bet at the beginning of the year on Quincy Acy getting an assist to Reggie Evans just made some money, I'll say that.--Capt.
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Surrealism Precursor -- or maybe the inspiration for some of the mouth of madness Cthulu myths

Stats: 14min 4pts (1-2, 1-2, 1-2) 1reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Johnson ( C ) -- I was initially impressed by Johnson, as he stepped right onto the floor at the end of the first and made an immediate impact, grabbed a good d-board, hit a feet set three, and drove and created several passes. In fact in about his first three minutes he looked more comfortable on both sides of the ball then Ben did all game. Got quiet after Gay returned and the ball swung back his way --as with Thornton, its beyond obvious that at least some of our SGs' struggles are because they are simply despised in this system/lineup. Was back in for the ineffective Ben late in the 3rd and made a nice baseline move. But despite looking surprisingly poised/like he knew what he was doing on defense, despite only having 1-2 days of practice under his belt, was part of our guard line that just got LIT UP in the late 3rd/4th quarters. Defense looked solid against Brooks, but Brooks scored over him at will anyway. --Brick
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Descent Into Hell? -- maybe. Fairly standard, but notice the eyes.
 
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Man, if there's anything worse than losing to the gd lakers, it hasn't been invented yet.

Had to go with zero, for the poll: if we can't beat the ghost of Pau Gasol, and the D-League select team without Cousins...
 
I'm one of the biggest proponents here about giving guys proper time to develop. Felt we were stupid to give up Trob after 50 games. We simply can't do the same with Ben.

However,

We need to see SOMETHING to latch on to heading in to next season. Just any sort of sign that he's figuring it out. Maybe 4-5 RPG. Shooting 36-37% from 3pt the last 20 games. There has to be a starting point we can build towards next season with him.
 
We would win 70 games minimum without Cousins because of culture change and all that, led by Ben McLemore the savior of the franchise and darling of the front office who would average 30 points on 2 shots a game because he's such a good shooter. Oh, and also because Vivek is a business genius hence by default we win the championship.

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I actually enjoyed watching the game. Loved that second unit that played in the first half. I think it was Raymac-Johnson-Acy-Evans-Williams. They actually played a little bit of defense and showed some toughness. We absolutely HAVE to keep Rudy Gay. The guy is such a pro on and off the court. Rarely do I see him make a mistake. I have no idea what the hell happened in Toronto but he's been a godsend here. IT was good on offense, miserable on defense, as usual.

Ben....oh Ben. Wow, what can you say. I feel sorry for the kid. He seems like such a good kid and he's supposedly working really hard. I just don't see how we can continue to start him and play this many minutes any more. It just doesn't set a good example for the other players. I'm really thinking he needs to go to the DLeague for 4-5 games just to get some confidence and when he returns, he needs to come off the bench and play against the other team's 2nd unit. He's just so far away offensively and defensively from any sort of help he could give the team. I mean, seriously, he does nothing even average. Nothing.
 
The only shot I saw Ben make tonight was a 3 after a foul was called. It was pretty sad watching Ben get open and never get handed the ball again after going cold. And that offensive foul during the fast break... come on, just dunk over/tea bag him since you're our Dunk Contest runner-up! Or you know, pass the ball ... side step?
 
For a guy that's not really that skiled and somewhat undersized the impact Reggie Evans has on the game just from smarts, instincts and hustle is pretty amazing imo. I honestly don't think you can put a value on how important a guy like that is, everywhere he's played that I have watched he's made that team better from helping those Ray Allen lead sonics to a 50 win season to being a cruical piece to stopping the Marc Gasol/Z-Bo demolition of the Clippers frontline a few years back the dude just knows how to impact a game to help you win.

Props to Reggie Evans for getting the most out of himself he's one player regardless of if he wins a championship or not can say he literally got every last drop out of the talent he had and gave his all, you have to give props to a guy like that.
 
For a guy that's not really that skiled and somewhat undersized the impact Reggie Evans has on the game just from smarts, instincts and hustle is pretty amazing imo. I honestly don't think you can put a value on how important a guy like that is, everywhere he's played that I have watched he's made that team better from helping those Ray Allen lead sonics to a 50 win season to being a cruical piece to stopping the Marc Gasol/Z-Bo demolition of the Clippers frontline a few years back the dude just knows how to impact a game to help you win.

Props to Reggie Evans for getting the most out of himself he's one player regardless of if he wins a championship or not can say he literally got every last drop out of the talent he had and gave his all, you have to give props to a guy like that.
I feel that it's the same effect that Aldrich and Douglas introduced foreign concepts of defense and constant concentration to a team last year, only for Reggie it would be effort and hustle. For some reason other players start doing the same, if they see a good example. :eek::)
 
I feel that it's the same effect that Aldrich and Douglas introduced foreign concepts of defense and constant concentration to a team last year, only for Reggie it would be effort and hustle. For some reason other players start doing the same, if they see a good example. :eek::)

It's inspiration that does it. Positive inspiration is how the best leaders work. Lead by example on a daily basis, even when the camera's are not there, and then produce what most would assume that you "probably can't" do. When that happens, everyone's attention is gained and it inspires action
 
I'm one of the biggest proponents here about giving guys proper time to develop. Felt we were stupid to give up Trob after 50 games. We simply can't do the same with Ben.

However,

We need to see SOMETHING to latch on to heading in to next season. Just any sort of sign that he's figuring it out. Maybe 4-5 RPG. Shooting 36-37% from 3pt the last 20 games. There has to be a starting point we can build towards next season with him.
Next season, if we keep him (and we will), acquire a competent starting SG and let Ben back him up
 
Gee, wonder if the Kings should start to guard the perimeter shooters anytime soon? Or learn what transition defense is and give that a try too? Poor Coach. But who really gave away the farm mid-way into final quarter?

Odd thought....... why not start McCallum and have IT at the 2? Ohh yeah. Then who comes off the bench for either of them? Ahhhhhhh............
 
I voted 27 wins without him and I would guess 29 with him. If we could depend on him being here or not being here them it's a plus with him here. But if we can't depend on him we are better off without him. IF we can't win without him then he personally has lost us ten games. What do we learn from this? Probably nothing. We will stick with McLemore and Cousins through thick and thin. This is the challenge to Vanadive.
 
Gee, wonder if the Kings should start to guard the perimeter shooters anytime soon? Or learn what transition defense is and give that a try too? Poor Coach. But who really gave away the farm mid-way into final quarter?

Odd thought....... why not start McCallum and have IT at the 2? Ohh yeah. Then who comes off the bench for either of them? Ahhhhhhh............

You could start McCallum with Orlando Johnson, after a couple of games, if that's what looks like it's going to help us play better as a team with ball movement and defense
 
I voted 27 wins without him and I would guess 29 with him. If we could depend on him being here or not being here them it's a plus with him here. But if we can't depend on him we are better off without him.

Based on the fact that we are 20-28 WITH Cuz and 0-10 without him, how on earth did you come to that conclusion?
 
How is it possible to be a coach who talks so much about defense and have a team that can not play defense? DC probably could not have defended many of those threes. We have had a lot of player changes but the team stays the same. If we are tanking, what good does it do to have a good pick if we can't draft (BM). There is so much wrong about what is going on. I have to hope it is just bad luck. The alternative is not pretty.
 
I didn't watch the game last night and right now just watched it. I have been pretty down on this team and shockingly, it goes beyond our center's shenanigans. It seems so obvious we need to keep Rudy. He is far more than a great athlete but he is stable and understands the game. I know brick worries about us losing Cuz because he will want to be on a winner but I take Cuz at his word that he will stay and try to help drag the team out of its doldrums. The guard position is an absolute mess. Our defense is a mess. "Mess?" Malone has to be dying.

I don't know what is wrong with Ben but he is useless. The question is whether he will be useless a few years from now. I doubt it but have no guarantees. The last thing I would do is dump Ben.

DWill is on again off again but he needs to stay with the Kings for awhile. We don't know what we have but it could be pretty darn good. It seems like this PDA insistence on getting big guys has worked. Now lets see what he does with the guards. Two guys could make a difference.

It is not an accident that opponent guards seems to have career nights on us with high frequency. I haven't got the perfect clue but shuffling the guards who never had a career with us does nothing. Young Ray was a good pick. Just my opinion. He needs time.

Not sure if I'll watch the game tonight, either.
 
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