[Grades] Grades v. Lakers 12/09/2014

Biggest coaching head scratcher?

  • Landry over Reggie in the 4th

    Votes: 6 9.8%
  • DWill over Casspi again

    Votes: 26 42.6%
  • Ben held out so long

    Votes: 17 27.9%
  • Nik being tagged as the ballhandler on the play to tie it at the end

    Votes: 10 16.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 2 3.3%

  • Total voters
    61
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
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You know, I generally like Michael Malone, but that said he's damn lucky I was not invited to his postgame press conference because I would have some serious questiosn for him about what the hell he was thinking in this game with his rotatioins and subs.

-- why on earth is Reggie Evans, with 14rebs in 28min, sitting on the bench in the 4th quarter as the Lakers pummeled us on the glass? I was watching you Malone you were hopping around flipping out at the sidelien screaming at guys to rebound, while sitting right behind you were Reggie and JT, and they weren;t even getting ready to check in.
-- on the flipside, what the hell did Carl Landry do to earn any of those minutes?
-- why the hell was the wild and out of control Derrick Williams suddenyl so resolutely advaned above the well rested Omri Casspi in the rotation?
-- why did Ben McLemore, who had played well, get left out of the game unti the final 4 minutes as we collapsed?
-- why was Nik Stauskas handling the ball on our final play of the game? Kid looks terrified.

Man do we suck without Cousins We literally have proven absolutely nothing. An OT win over a bad East team at the end of a roadtrip won on a lucky bounce, and a home win against a young team on an 8 game losing streak, And we're losing gimmes. Help us Oboogie Kenobi, you are the only hope.

Boxscore

Stats: 34min 23pts (7-18, 2-4, 7-8) 5reb 5ast 0stl 1blk 4TO
Gay ( B- ) -- Rudy off to a hot start scoring comfortably from both midrange on pullups and on longballs that were unexpectedly falling for us for 3/4 of the game. Came back in and was being covered by Swaggy P, but not taking advantage as he should as if anything his shots got more contested, not less. Was again maybe our most effective setup man, notching 5 more assists and setting up hits by Collison outside and Reggie inside, but i some ways that almost makes our sans-Cousins ineptitude worse. Our #2 is generally stepping up, scoring more, passing more, and its still not enough. Hit another three in the third, but thta would be his last as that well not surprsingly dried up. It was nice to hit a few, but that's not who we are and when you sre relying on somethign you aren't naturally good at its eventually going to return to the norm. As soon as Ben left with fouls Rudy had to take Kobe, and Kobe immediately juked him and scored over him, and in fact that wold become an issue downt he stretch as Malone very wisely rested Ben for national TV thumping by the Rockets in a few days, and gtried to guard Kobe wiht our SFs instead. We were still up at that point though, still had a little of our swag. When Rudy got fouled hard by Sacre on the break, and sent to the floor, he roled over and did the Amare pushups afterwards. Things began to go south soon afterward, as once again an opposing team, even just the 5-16 Lakers, began to squeeze, and once again the illusion that our #2 guy is a #1, that ior PG can shoot FTs, and that our coach can make smart decisions under pressure all got shattered Rudy turned it over going 1 on 1 at the end of the third, and while it briefly looked like he might save us after returning in the 4th to hit a shot and grab a tough board with the offense dead in the water, his late game quickly descended into a mess as he got his next shot blocked, got the ball stolen, and missed a three we did not need him to take So instead down the stretch it was Collison trying to 1 mn save us, except there all the Lakers had to do was foul him everytime and he turned into DeAndre Jordan at the line. This was a solid enough effort again by Rudy..as a #2 guy. Unfiortunately he was the #1 guy on the ngiht and when the going got tight late in this one the Lakers ancient rickety guard still knew how to be a #1 and racked up 8pts and 3ast down the stretch while Rudy was smothered and disappeared. --Brick

Stats: 28min 5pts (1-5, 0-0, 3-4) 8reb 4ast 0stl 0blk 2TO
Thompson ( D ) -- One nice thing to be said about JT tonight is that he grabbed a reasonable number of rebounds. He didn't get any of them down the stretch when we needed them (he gave up at least one needed offensive rebound to Jordan Hill), but at least he found 8 somewhere along the line. JT's other positive tonight was that he had four assists - mostly on kick-outs but he did have a nice pass to give Collison a shot right at the rim. Other than that, JT wasn't terribly involved, or terribly good, in this game. On offense he missed two easy shots in the lane in the first quarter and completely bricked a jumper in the third, his only make being a layup right at the rim. On defense, he was playing mostly on Hill, who has no post game and instead hangs out on the perimeter, which takes JT right out of his comfort zone, makes him ineffective at help D, takes him out of rebounding position. You gotta admit, for a guy who has very little offensive skill, Hill's positioning took JT right out of the game. The bottom line is that one rebound could have made the difference in this game, and JT didn't fight very hard to get it. --Capt.

Stats: 30min 8pts (3-3, 0-0, 2-2) 14reb 1ast 1stl 0blk 2TO
Evans ( B ) -- Reggie did what Reggie does. He took up space under the basket, scored on putbacks and rebounded the daylights out of the ball. But rebounding is something you can always count on with him. Offensively and officially, he only took three shots, and he made all three. One came off of a nice pass from Gay as he was cutting down the lane to the basket. He sat out a big part of the fourth quarter, and we got killed on the boards. It might be fair to say that it greatly contributed to our loss, since the Lakers got second chance after second chance with him sitting on the bench. Defensively, for the most part he was fine. He had a couple of lapses where he left Hill to help on the perimeter, and it resulted a couple of baskets. There's not much else to say, other than it was a horrible loss, and one that we worked hard to accomplish. --Baja

Stats: 25min 15pts (3-7, 3-5, 6-7) 1reb 2ast 1stl 1blk 2TO
McLemore ( B+ ) -- Getting smoked by Kobe in the early going whatever the numbers were saying, because old Kobe simply misses a great many of those shots But Kobe was shaking him and juking him and generally giving him an education. But because it was old Kobe, we weren't really being hurt by all those shots going up, and it may have been as big a problem for the Lakers as it was for us. Finally struck back with feet set three late in the quarter, but then immediately picked up his second foul in what would become the story of his game. Had a burst at the end of the half when Gay found him for another open corner three, and he followed it with a third 30 seconds later, and while what Kobe was doing was infinitely more difficult, at that point Ben was mathcing him point for point and far more efficiently just as a spot shooter and court runner.. Kobe came right out after half and dropped a classic Kobe jumper on him, but Ben after missing an off balance three, got fouled on the break and hit all 3 FTs. Unfortunately they would be the last points of the game for him He turned it over with bad ballhandling and then picked up his 4th guardng Kobe, and from that point on had to face a nasty double team of Kobe bracketing him on one side, and his coach on the other. And while it was hard to see how Ben was really harassing Kobe when he was out there, it was notable that as soon as he went to the bench Kobe started really heating up against everybody not named Ben. If nothign else I think ben at least was giving him somethign to think about. When malone finally went back to him over a quarter later there was non more offense and he missed his only shot downt he stretch But what he did bring again was defensive hustle, not on Kobe who we oddly seemed to be hiding him from, but using his athelticsm to come up with a big block to save a hoop, and after he missed a shot he raced back to breakup the resulting fast break with the Lakers already up 1 with 2:15 to go. All in all I am not quite sure there was as much here as people were making out -- it was largely 3 three pointers int he first half out of only 7 total shots -- but down the stetch he and Reggie were certainly obvious key personnel that somehow got forgotten about while our game died on the vine while the coach fiddled--Brick

Stats: 38min 26pts (11-18, 2-3, 2-8) 4reb 6ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Collison ( B+ ) -- able to score easily from the beginning of this one against the awesome Ronnie Price/Jeremy Lin duo Pullups, layups, and we even rana play for gay to set him up for one of those corner threes. Jerry seems just utterly committed to the idea that DC is going to start bombing facing threes like Stephen Curry, but his range has always been those short corners, and that's where he thrived with CP3 to set him up last year. But despite hsi efficient statline (11-18FG, 6ast, 0TO) there wee some issues here that prevented me from being wildly enthusiastic. The largest of course would be this number: 2-8. DC is a career .852 free throw shooter, but damn if he hasn't struggled for us at key times, and at no time worse than tonight. Not only did he miss 6, but his timing was awful. He missed so many it actually scuttled our momentum at the end of the third, and it took him 6 tries to finally hit 1. He got back to the line again with 2min to go, and only split the pair, and hell, you felt lucky. Might as well have had Reggie Evans taking them, and when you lose by three, and your rookie collapses on a desperation three point play to try to tie at the buzzer, only being down 2 in that situation would have been handy, Of course DC just hits them at normal efficiency and we jsut flat out win, which is better yet. But while 2-8 hangs over this, there were some other issues. Showed a diappointing lack of composure in the third when he fell into a trap helping the Lakers more than us by getting into a Reno Bighorns race up and down the court shooting as fast as physically possible run n chuck contest. Not who we are. Continued to be efficient hitting pullups, but losing focus and falling asleep on defense. Still, FT shooting aside, with Rudy turning into a pumpkin it was Darren who tried to carry us down the stretch, hitting a little pullup jumper to give us a 3pt lead, darting in at the 40 second mark to put us up by 1, and logically the guy you would have wanted running the offense on the final play rather than Nik, but...well... --Brick
 
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Bench

Stats: 21min 6pts (2-4, 0-1, 2-6) 3reb 0ast 1stl 0blk 3TO
Williams ( D ) -- my noted on DWill used the term "out of control" on three separate occasions. You know what that usually means? It means said player was probably playing out of control. DWill first arrived in the late 1st because apparently we didn't just sign better backup SF option this offseason after all, and he immediately flat airballed a corner three. Next time down he got fouled going inside...and promptly missed both FTs. His contributions came as a floor runner, where he had a big reverse dunk and another score. But generally, this was a chicken wiht its head cut off tryign too hard, and not succeeeding. tehse were my amsuing 2nd half notes, verbatim: "After returning in the 3rd wild out of control spin drive for an offensive toul. Did little and just turning it over. Out of control, bricked 2 FTs. Out of control." lol. But oh Malone sure did love his backup forwards tonight playign them and playing them no matter how many points they spotted the Lakers.--Brick

Stats: 23min 4pts (2-3, 0-0, 0-0) 3reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Landry ( D- ) -- Landry's game can be summed up pretty easily: 23 minutes, 3 rebounds. That's basically the definition of "not getting it done". If Landry had been on fire and gone for 15 points then maybe such a lackluster rebounding performance could be excused, but four points on 2-3 shooting is not enough to justify Landry's inability to rebound and play defense. On D, he was mostly tasked with Boozer, who just casually shot jumpers over him all night long, though he did have an opportunity to let Ed Davis slip behind him for an easy dunk. The Kings' interior play was mostly pathetic tonight and Landry was a big part of that. And it's tough to look pathetic against the formidable rotation of Jordan Hill, Ed Davis, Carlos Boozer, and Robert Sacre. Congrats Carl - not many can pull that one off! --Capt.

Stats: 16min 4pts (2-7, 0-2, 0-0) 1reb 0ast 0stl 1blk 1TO
Stauskas ( D ) -- Nik's sudden confiidence asnd competence lasted for all of one possessin in this one, as eh came into the game still confident and immediately hit a loing jumper. Unfortunately followed that up by fouling Swaggy P on a three pointe for a 4pt play, and that may have been all it took for oh woe is me! I'm going to die! Mommieeee!!! to reassert itself. Began to miss and make a variety of rookie mistake shots far more appropriate for a rookie feeling out what he can and cannot do in the league during training camp than as the backup SG in a tight must win game against a traditional rival, while playign wihtout your superstar. Basically, the mistakes were understandable things kids go through, but they hurt us in a game where we could not be hurt.. Came back in in the ealy 4th with Kobe out (one coaching decision I did fully support Malone on was his obvious attempt to avoid a Nik/Kobe mnatchup at all costs), and hit a nice spoinner floater in the lane that rolled in. That was it thoguh. Got a tunraround blocked, missed another jumper and then of course the one on hsi coach was when with us down 3 oin our final possesion of the game, we sub in the rook. Ok, so far so good. We ahve very few three point shooters, Nik is at least theoretically going to be one, sub him in, go have him spot up. Except we don't go have him spot up. We have the inbounder throw it to him up top of the circle to run the play. And it quickly turned into a disaster. He got pressured, picked up his dribble, nearly turned it over, and by the time Collison got the ball the clock was almsot gone, the play was broken, and we lose. Feel sorry for the equipment manager, because I'm pretty sure he is having to try to bleach out some brown stains from Nik's shorts after that one. Getting a little tired of all these "nice guy" rooks who come in looking terrified. If this Cousins things tanks our season, I think I want us to draft the biggest butthead in the draft next offseason. I don't even care what position he plays. I just want an arrogant, delusional take no prisoners spit on babies and thinks he knows it all butthead for once. No more babies running for the hills. --Brick

Stats: 14min 2pts (0-1, 0-0, 2-2) 6reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Hollins ( INC ) -- Yeah, I know, he played fourteen minutes and he did grab six rebounds. Other than that, not much to write about. He was on the floor, and I didn't see anything close to an impersonation of an NBA center. After that loss, I find my inspiration somewhat lacking. --Baja

Stats: 10min 2pts (1-4, 0-0, 0-0) 3reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Sessions ( C- ) -- let's call this a gentleman's C-. In many ways one of the most explicable games of the season for him. Wasn't gunning excessively Also wasn't showing that newfound floor generalship. I(n fact mostly wasn't doing much of anything, and Malone treated it that way and tried to ride Collison as much as possible, limiting Ramon to 10 minutes, he got his only score early on a running shot across the lane in the mid 2nd. Missed a baseline layup as we began to fall apart down the stretch. Left the game and that was that. Not terribly damaging minutes, either in content or quantity, but empty ones.--Brick
 
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Brick the answer has to be one of two. Malone is incompetent since Corbin gone or FO has ordered a stealth tank of sorts. Girls, girls, girls, and more girls pleeezzz

That's not the excuse either, because there were plenty of mysterious decisions with Corbin next to him. But again, I think that if Corbin were the head man, the playing time and decisions would be different
 
Missing FTs is contagious for the Kings. I hope the Lakers liked their early Xmas gift. This is a game the Kings should have won against a lousy team.
 
Gross.
Absolutely no excuse for leaving Ben on the bench tonight. He was our best player by far. Leaving him out put everything on Gay, who played like crap when everything was on him.

NO CASSPI? WTF?!?

Last play was garbage. It was broken, fyi. Don't believe for a second Nik was supposed to take that shot.

This ones on Malone 100%. Voldemorts played like hot garbage and Malone decided to tie his hands.
 
This ones on malone?? What a joke I knew when we lost who would take the blame. Is it Malones fault Collison couldn't hit a Ft if he goes 70% we win.
The push back to that is that you could just as easily say, if we get two more offensive rebounds, we win (and where was Evans down the stretch?), or if we run some action on that second-to-last possession, instead of a 1-4 for Gay, we win. It's not as simple as saying that any one of those things is the singular reason for the loss... but, only one of those things was outside of the coach's control.
 
The biggest factor was probably giving the Lakers offensive boards. The next one would be having Ben out for so damn long. Why couldn't we give Nik a better look if we wanted him to hit the game wining shot? He's not Blake Griffin....
 
Gross.
Absolutely no excuse for leaving Ben on the bench tonight. He was our best player by far. Leaving him out put everything on Gay, who played like poopoo when everything was on him.

NO CASSPI? WTF?!?

Last play was garbage. It was broken, fyi. Don't believe for a second Nik was supposed to take that shot.

This ones on Malone 100%. Voldemorts played like hot garbage and Malone decided to tie his hands.

He also left Ben out way too long in the 4th quarter, in the game before last, against Orlando. Decided to play Ramon for most of the 4th instead o_O
 
I hope the Lakers liked their early Xmas gift. This is a game the Kings should have won against a lousy team.
See, here's the thing that KF's don't understand (or refuse to accept):
The Kings are a lousy team without DMC.
What that means is, there is not one team in the league that we (or they) should be thinking they can beat without playing a good game.
Why do KF's (and apparently the Kings themselves) look at the Lakers and expect to win while Boogie is out?
The entire team AND COACHING (especially rotations and playcalls) falls apart without DMC, and yet they (and we) act like the Kings should win this game.

Newsflash - the Kings have shown themselves incapable of beating ANY team in the NBA without Cousins unless that team is playing badly.
If they play against the Kings with any fire, and make any kind of shots or play any kind of defense, the Kings have shown they will collectively wilt.

When are they and KF's going to get this reality?

I'm just using your wording to make a point, hope that's OK ArcoKings.
 
See, here's the thing that KF's don't understand (or refuse to accept):
The Kings are a lousy team without DMC.
What that means is, there is not one team in the league that we (or they) should be thinking they can beat without playing a good game.
Why do KF's (and apparently the Kings themselves) look at the Lakers and expect to win while Boogie is out?
The entire team AND COACHING (especially rotations and playcalls) falls apart without DMC, and yet they (and we) act like the Kings should win this game.

Newsflash - the Kings have shown themselves incapable of beating ANY team in the NBA without Cousins unless that team is playing badly.
If they play against the Kings with any fire, and make any kind of shots or play any kind of defense, the Kings have shown they will collectively wilt.

When are they and KF's going to get this reality?
I'm just using your wording to make a point, hope that's OK ArcoKings.
Uhh...I'm 100% sure that the Lakers were coming into this game 5-16. Is it asking for too much? I swore I saw more to your post than there actually is currently.

The Kings should have won this game. We dominated almost the entire game and we lost towards the end. This game should have been a W. We lost this game because we could not execute at the end.

This should've been a win. The Lakers are a sucky team. They have no true starting PG, SF, or C..yet we lost.
 
Our 3 most used bench players (Carl, Derrick & Nik) had 60 minutes of PT and produced a combined stat row (per 36 min) of:
8.4 pt (6/14, 0/4, 2/6 - 43%, 0%, 33%)
4.2 reb.
0.6 ass.
0.6 st.
0.6 bl.
4.2 TOs
3.0 PF

I'm not a one-man-fan, but Casspi has played in all 3 positions occupied by this trio this year, and was OK, to say the least. His numbers per 36min are:

15.9 pt (54%, 14%, 85%)
6.5 reb.
2.7 ass.

0.6 st.
0.3 bl.
2.2 TOs
3.2 PF

What would be the harm in subbing him in, mind you??
Even just as a wild experiment... :eek:
 
We have to stop playing Nik and Sessions together, other than one game when those two play the guard spots we lose leads or go down big that's just killing us whenever those two or even one of them is on the floor. I have no idea why Mclemore was held out so long and why Casspi is not playing in the 2nd unit with Williams, we need both those guys running and slashing to the rim.

Collison other than the free throws was great. Rudy was good but again sort of chocked a bit in the 4th, he makes a lot of lazy passes out of double teams.

Landry is kind of killing us again, he's bascially our Carlos Boozer unless he's shooting a insane % he just doesn't do anything and he can't pass to a open man to save his life.
Without DMC, we are at 76ers level.
We are actually worse the 76ers are 2-17 we are currently 2-18 without Cousins (including that Houston game)

In general this Kings team with or without Cousins just has a habit off falling apart and it always starts with our bench and our starters try to get momentum back but it's often to late and the flood gates have been completely burst.
 
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Kings continue to disappoint, year after year. Start of the season gave us such high hopes.
Yeah but at least this season it's not due to a lack of effort, while obviously the Kings are much better to watch with Cousins, I would prefer to watch this team now and the effort they give than last years team with Cousins and Isaiah Thomas. Even wtihout Cousins and playing crappy teams I still have enjoyed watching this team compete even with all the fail turnovers and questionable playing time, aside from maybe 1-2 players we have a likeable team imo there no real cancers like Thornton/Thomas and company.

We got a injury to our best player it happens at least we finally know if we can get a ok bench to support the starting 5 we got (both Cuz/Ben will improve while everyone else stays at a similar level) we could be a playoff team in a year or so.
 
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