Grades v. Lakers 04/18

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Maybe. But there was nothing to stop us from signing Funderburke (or anyone else, for that matter) at minimum for a couple of years, exposing them, and waiving them if they weren't taken. Something like that would have been done if (a) Wallace's potential was appreciated, and (b) the management/owners weren't hell-bent on cost cutting. $800K and you'd save your player. I think they just didn't believe in Wallace, or he would have gotten way more play time than he did.

Gerald Wallace's work ethic was questionable during his time with the Kings. He needed to grow up ... and in Charlotte he has. He had raw potential here, but just didn't seem to want to put forth the effort necessary to become a solid player on a contending team.
 
I think they just didn't believe in Wallace, or he would have gotten way more play time than he did.

Not playing behind top-scorer Peja Stojakovic, not for a team trying to win a championship. He just didn't fit here at the time, and it's a shame, but that's the black and white of it.
 
So, it seems to me that the whole "Funny Movies" grade thread was just a set up for the "The Biggest Horrors" grade thread to close the season and send everyone to TDOS clutching a bottle of the "heavy"?

Here is my 2 cents...

In no particular order, three moments sealed our fate as a perenial contender:

1. The Webber trade. OK, so he did blow out his knee and he never would have be a player that he was before the injury. Still, he was THE BEST player the franchise ever had.

2. Rick non-tendered. Aparently, he was aloof and not friendly. RA also had no skills with Power Point. Still he was the best coach the franchise ever had.

3. Vlade non-tendered and replaced by a piece of furniture. Well his playing days were over, but he was (and probably still is) an all time fan favorite. Some fans loved Webber, some fans loved Pedja, all the fans loved Vlade.

How does a franchise, especially small market franchise with no prior history of success, survive in the long term if it disposes of its best, of its brightest stars, of its leaders, in order to satisfy short term (financial or otherwise) goals? Since when does the coach has to double as owners' play-mate?

And to boot:

1. Webber can still play. Kenny Thomas still sucks.
2. Even if we fire Muss today, RA is still the best coach out there that is not under a contract, so whoever we get is not going to be as good as RA (at least on paper).
3. Vlade is running one of the largest basketball operations in the World.

Apparently we have no use for them.

Boys and girls, brace yourself. It will take more then one TDOS to fix this.
 
i'm normally the first one to get depressed over such things. but really. this thread makes me happy that we had it so great. those were some good times. and great people.
Actually, while I get teary and nostalgic it is always, always mixed with the thankfulness that I have something to be teary and nostalgic about. I am so glad I got to experience the thrill of those years and that team.:D
 
Actually, while I get teary and nostalgic it is always, always mixed with the thankfulness that I have something to be teary and nostalgic about. I am so glad I got to experience the thrill of those years and that team.:D


You said it very well. The tears in my eyes are bittersweet. I will always be greatful that I soaked up every minute of those days that I could... and, I miss them and look forward to the future....

I agree with Brick on the Webb injury thing being possibly the biggest moment in the downward slide. It's weird, when he went down I remember saying to my husband "there goes our season," but in no way did I realize the true impact it would have on the direction of the franchise.
 
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05/08/2003 -- a day that live forever in infamy. And yes, I know, I already did Webber. But that was just the trade. The picture above...well, I've tagged it before. That was the franchise turner. Everything changed that day. Our likely title went poof. Our owners decided depth meant nothing if it could not win it all without the main guy and closed the purse strings. Half the team that was favored to win the title never made it to the next season. Our chemistry deteriorated. The fanbase began to feel cheated of the title they had been told sure was theirs. Panic moves, and water treading moves have ensued. The media turned on the team. Scapegoats, including Webb himself, have been found and burned year after year. Former heroes villified. It may even have helped scuttle any arena momentum. If you had one chance to go back in Kings history and change just one thing...ticking Horry on the elbow might be tempting, turning on a fan to try to blow one of those Game 7 FTs in maybe worth the attempt, but the one that might have made the most difference would be tackling Chris before he took that one awful step. Its been one long slide ever since that day.

02-03 was sooo our year. Brick, you captured the tragedy of that moment perfectly, but please excuse me for hating you right now :(
 
Not only do I doubt it, I think you need to reread it.

Here was the situation: you could protect up to 8. But REGARDLESS of how many you wanted to protect, SOMEBODY off your roster had to be left available. That's what the "provided that each current team must leave at least one player unprotected" meant.

So, if you had only 3 guys under contract, you could onyl protect 2 of them, because regardless of anything else, at least one player from each team HAD to be exposed. On the other hand, if you had 12 guys under contract, you could only protect 8 of the 12, and then 4 guys would be exposed.

Our problem was with the first clause, the MUST leave one guy exposed bit. Our 8 under contract were Chris, Brad, Peja, Doug, Mike, Bobby, Darius and Gerald. But, under the rules of the drat, we still had to leave at least one guy available. We could not protect all 8 if that meant we had noboyd to expose. So we had to expose Gerald even though that meant we only had 7 protected. If we had had Peeler signed to a guaranteed secodn year, we could have exposed him, still protected our 8 (including Gerald) and...well, history might have been a little different.

Mea Culpa, I had this expansion draft pegged one year earlier with at least Vlade also being protected. Upon further research, my memory deceived me. That's the problem with getting older, all of these memories get much more crowded together.
 
Two videos/pictures I still have to look away from:

1) Robert Horry's shot

2) Webber crumpling to the ground and being driven off with the towel covering his face.

Honestly, those still hurt.:(
 
And don't forget Ryan's tributes. I STILL can't watch the Doug or Webber ones without tearing up.

Dang, we really were that good.
 
Mea Culpa, I had this expansion draft pegged one year earlier with at least Vlade also being protected. Upon further research, my memory deceived me. That's the problem with getting older, all of these memories get much more crowded together.

Happens. ;)

I'm coming to grips myself with Pearl Jam as classic rock. :o
 
What about the entire generation who was not even alive before the Beatles broke up?

...sigh...

And rumors that I vividly remember the last ice age are vastly mistaken.

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I slept through it.

:p
 
They're all young. Gerald is only as good as he is because he's been forced to be by the new franchise; he could've been a good piece with us, but not on the level he is with Charlotte.

Charlotte has nowhere to go but up, is the thing. They have a lot of young, extremely talented players with a ton of cap room and as soon as they can put the pieces together and sign a significant free agent, they'll be pretty damn good :)

I think they are in the playoffs next year, barring some catastrophic injury.
 
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