[Grades] Grades v. Knicks 12/10/2015

Rondo, Cuz = yes, but who was the unsung hero of this game?

  • Casspi

    Votes: 32 45.7%
  • Gay's defense on Melo

    Votes: 22 31.4%
  • Collison

    Votes: 6 8.6%
  • nope, it was all about the Big 2.

    Votes: 10 14.3%

  • Total voters
    70
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#1




Notice the difference 2pts can make in the mood around here as we go into this bizarre little 5 day mini-break in our schedule?




Boxscore

Stats: 40min 10pts (4-16, 1-4, 1-1) 8reb 2ast 1stl 3blk 3TO
Summary:

Gay ( C ) -- this is a tough game to grade for Rudy. Offensively he was horrid. Contested, challenged, and every time Boogie left the game we went backward in part because Rudy just did not get it done in his absence. He had two hits of note the whole game, one on a drawn up play straight out of halftime that I am sure was meant to get him going, and did not. And then a big, and well timed, three pointer with 3:40 to go in the 4th to help us hold on. Now the difficulty: Rudy Gay, who is normally good (and sometimes great) offense, meh defense, came out in this one and really competed like hell against Melo on the defensive end of the court. he obviously did not completely stop him and lost the individual battle. But he was all over him and made everything hard, notched a steal and 3 blocks, and scrapped in most un-Rudylike fashion. He still got outmuscled inside when he guarded Porzingis, but then again that's why Rudy is truly a pure SF more than any kind of SF/PF. And against his small forward matchup he very well...on one end of the floor. 4-16 shooting strictly limits how high you can go here, but these was not a game completely without merit.

Stats: 40min 11pts (4-10, 0-2, 3-6) 8reb 3ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Summary:

Casspi ( B- ) -- early in the game got his first attempt on the break swatted away by a looming Porzingis, but then began to show his quality, showing no fear of the big man at all, and repeatedly going right at him, using his mobility to get around him and then outracing him to the rim. Porzingis greeted the Kings in the second half, getting inside and scoring over Cousisns, but then Omri went right back at him and drew the foul. Played some soft interior defense late in the 3rd as we began to give away our huge lead, and his offensive game got quiet as well as the Knicks slipped into a smallball look with Porzingis or Kyle O'Quinn at center. Would have one more thing to say about the outcome of this one in the final minute, as with 24 seconds left on a very questionable decision he broke out ahead of Rondo, took the pass (some of the questionable decision was Rondo's) and charged right at the rim looking for a layup. He got the shot smushed, and its damn lucky we got the foul call. Then he went to the line, only having shot 1-4 through the game to that point, and having run off no clock at all for us. As I said, highly dubious decisionmaking. But Omri came through, hit both clutch FTs, and despite a new attempt to flub the game by Collison, we hung on.

Stats: 37min 27pts (12-25, 0-2, 3-4) 11reb 2ast 2stl 0blk 3TO
Summary:

Cousins ( B+ ) -- was our real bellweather this game. When he left in the late first, our offense so completely died that Karl reinserted before the end of the quarter to stabilize things, which you rarely see. When he left the game in the late 3rd, our 17pt lead at the time immediately plummeted, and was under 10 within a couple of minutes. He began the game perhaps too jumper oriented with the two 7 footers in there for the Knicks, but he knocked down several, grabbed several good defensive boards, and other than Lopez surprisingly hitting a couple of little midrange jumpers over him, it was a solid start, and he capped it with a big drive down the lane and dunk over Lopez, which drew complete crickets from Webb and Barkley (they were very pointed in completely refusing to acknowledge Cousins until after halftime). he began to really take over in the third, finally stirring to life our wonderful color commentary crew, although mostly for Barkley to accuse him of being out of shape, based on not much evidence. He battled Porzingis in the 4th, took a charge, dropped a big spin move on Porz which included an elbow to the kid's head and dunk over his shoulder. Tried another dunk and did not quite get it. Came up with a big man drive and follow and follow sequence at the 2:30 mark that should have drawn an easy Moses comparison from Barkley, who played with him, but...well you know. But did not get it done in the final two minutes, as we tried to ride him against the looming Porzingis, but he ended up turning it over twice (well, looking at the box they called the first one an Afflalo blocked shot, even though it was about chest high for Cuz). And then to top things off a moderately deceptive .gif of the the final play of the game with Melo driving seems to show Boogie too far away from Porzingis to have prevented a pass to him for a tying dunk, if that's the route Melo had chosen. A good night with some big highlights, but on a season where he's already been over 30 half a dozen times, 27 and 11 is just, ho-hum.

Stats: 24min 7pts (2-5, 1-2, 2-2) 2reb 0ast 1stl 0blk 0TO
Summary:

McLemore ( C- ) -- hit an early transition three on a pass ahead from Cousins, but it would be his highlight on the night. In fact for most of it the Knicks appeared to revive an old scouting report on him that seems to question his strength, and just post him up again and again until he was chased. And some misadventures around Zinger, once wandering into the paint area, seeing a 7'3" guy lurking, and just sort of flipping up a prayer in the general direction of the hoop. Another time found himself down in the paint being posted by the same 7'3" kid, but luckily got bailed out when Koufos came racing on over. Was long gone by the stretch run

Stats: 40min 16pts (7-10, 1-2, 1-1) 9reb 12ast 2stl 0blk 3TO
Summary:

Rondo ( A ) -- somebody knew the bright lights of national TV were on and wanted to make a point, and Rajon was our best player on the night, and even out-spectaculared Cuz with a whole string of great plays scattered out over the game. He hit an early three, and a nifty layup off of a Cousins screen in the final minute of the quarter. Added a gorgeous falling down fullcourt pass late in the half to a streaking Casspi for an assist. Then a +1 blowing by Calderon. Spectacular 3rd quarter play as we opened up a commanding lead...before trying to blow it. And then of course came up with the play of the game with the Knicks on our heels, we were struggling to feed it into Cuz with Porzingis towering over him and half fronting him, and so Rajon saw his opportunity once Porzingis got caught on the top side of Cuz's body, and darted along the baseline for the huge baseline dunk at the 2:45 mark that caused Quincy Acy to faint dead away. Huge rebound at the 25 second mark as well, but then made one of two risky plays in the final seconds for him, as he gunned it upcourt to Casspi for that dangerous layup attempt rather than trying to run clock. A few seconds later, after we let Melo walk through for the layup, it was again Rondo throwing a good pass (hit Collison right in both hands) to a streaking Kings player, but this time Collison could not handle it, turned it over, and suddenly we were facing being beat at the buzzer by the Knicks. Not really satisfactory decisionmaking from our prime decisionmaker there, but we won, and the rest of his game was huge, so yay.
 
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Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#2
Bench

Stats: 20min 6pts (3-10, 0-2, 0-0) 1reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Belinelli ( C- ) -- - in pretty quick for Ben, and hit a runner in the lane. But it was soon a struggle again. Somehow you got the impression he wasn't really hurting us, and the +/- will tella similar tale, deceptive as might be.

Stats: 15min 6pts (3-5, 0-0, 0-0) 4reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Koufos ( C+ ) -- an unkind +/- will tell you he hurt us, but really he only did so by not being Boogie. For his own part in his short minutes he hit several little hooks and was solid on the glass, per usual. Its just that, per usual, he was a long way from dynamic, and with Rudy unable to step up when Cuz was out, Kosta wasn't going to fill that gap.

Stats: 25min 16pts (7-12, 0-2, 2-2) 1reb 3ast 0stl 0blk 2TO
Collison ( B- ) -- at the end of the first a breakout to get a layup with speed, and then another finish at the end of a sequence. In the early 2nd again out for a quick attack on the break. Broke the Knicks post-Cuz run in the late 3rd with a little elbow jumper. It was reckless, but he was providing some scoring and doing the one things the Knicks don't want to -- running. Seeing a washed up roleplayer like Vujavic go on a run lighting us up the other way as the Knicks closed wasn't making me happy though. In the final seconds of this one had a hand in the outcome for good -- hitting both FTs after being intentionally fouled with 16 seconds to go -- and nearly the very very very very bad, when 10 seconds later he sprinted out, took a Rondo inbounds pass...and flat dropped it, giving the Knicks the ball with the chance to tie or win.
 
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Collison was great he is being played with Rondo on the floor most of the time which puts him out of position but he made those free throws at the end of the game after all the difficulties of playing all night. Props to him for helping the team finish the game. As a side note way too much loud music playing in the fourth quarter when we left I thought wow was I just at a concert or a basketball game.
 
#8
Man, this was a heartache, watching this game.
What a friggin' relief they pulled it out.
Feels good, yeah yeah yeah, but.......................

It is incredibly worrisome that Karl is incapable of seeing that every 3rd quarter, around the last 4 minutes, he has Collison AND Rondo on the floor and the team constantly, repeatedly gives up game-threatening runs to the other team.
Why is he so addicted to the 2-PG lineup?
Am I missing the success they are having?
The ball movement turns to zero, and Rondo stands still at the 3-pt line when Collison has the ball, until the ball is passed, then Rondo comes out of his suspended animation and joins the game, but somehow can't run a play anymore.

The other major concern I'm having with believing this team can compete for a playoff spot is that down the stretch, when they absolutely needed points to seal the win, they went to Cousins in the block 5 times, and all 5 times they came up empty.
Excuse me, they were all turnovers.
Never got a shot off, never got a pass/re-set back out of it, never got a foul call.

Either the Kings are going to have to come up with ways to get Cousins an entry pass, or they're going to have to wait until the NBA changes the zone defense rules, because they are going to lose against teams better than the Knicks (mainly almost every team in the league).
They simply cannot go that many possessions without points in the last 6 minutes of a game and hope to win many of them.
 
#10
I feel tempted to rate the broadcasting crew, because it was a game on TNT for a much larger audience than usual for the Kings.

Why is this lazy, uninformed and insulting guy Charles Barkley allowed to comment on NBA basketball games?
This was one of the worst performances I ever witnessed from a professional TV analyst.

Not only his incredibly biased and flat out wrong comments about DMC.
But to top it, he really tries to mock international players? I know, that the prototypical US american, that is so arrogant, that he doesn't even bother to inform himself about foreign countries let alone to try to learn a language other than his native tongue, is mainly a silly prejudice. But Barkley really acts like this and TNT gives him the platform to do so.
What a clown!

"I was out of shape, but I was successful!" God how can someone this dumb be this full of himself.
Cuz is right to ignore everything, that comes out of Barkleys mouth, because all this guy wants is to fuel the negative media agenda about DMC.

Glad we came away with the W.
But we allowed the Knicks to get back into the game and this needs to be adressed.
Happy with our defense. We had multiple let downs, but showed good effort overall, are switching less screens and did a good job contesting shots. Only problem is, that we struggle to finish the defensive possession with a rebound.
 

dude12

Hall of Famer
#11
The team was active on defense and NY shooting percentage showed that. If they play this hard on defense, more wins will come. Just wish that Karl wouldn't play that 2 PG lineup so much, it's not a very good defensive lineup no matter who else is with them.
 
#13
I just realized something:

Unless I'm mistaken, I wasn't pissed off at Cousins tonight for any mugging faces, slumped shoulders, bitching at refs, incredibly slow jog-backs on defense, etc.

I can't remember the last game where his petulant/whiny behavior never caught my eye/ire even once during a game.

Maybe Webb and Barkley should announce more Kings games, eh?
Boogie certainly was on his best behavior tonight - cuz if he wasn't, they woulda been barking about his attitude all game long.
 

hrdboild

Moloch in whom I dream Angels!
Staff member
#14
I absolutely loved how Rudy Gay played this game. Active on defense and alert. Keep it up Rudy!
I think Rudy likes playing Carmelo. They're very similar players and there's pride on the line to one up the other guy. They had a pretty epic duel last December at Sleep Train. He's certainly capable of playing strong individual defense. We've just got to motivate him to play with the same pride on defense for every game...
 
#16
But to top it, he really tries to mock international players? I know, that the prototypical US american, that is so arrogant, that he doesn't even bother to inform himself about foreign countries let alone to try to learn a language other than his native tongue, is mainly a silly prejudice. But Barkley really acts like this and TNT gives him the platform to do so. What a clown!

He said Koufos and Prozingis can't speak English....lol
 
#17

He said Koufos and Prozingis can't speak English....lol
Exactly. I didn't follow the draftees closely before the actual draft night, but even I caught how impressed NBA excutives were of Porzingis ability to communicate in english. The guy speaks up to 4 languages and Mr. Barkley feels he needs to call him out in front of a national audience? This from a guy, who thinks Argentina is an european country. Pathetic.
Barkley is a disrespectful guy, who was once great as a player, but lives in the past now, incapable to let go his long gone glory days.
His comments about the Warriors made that obvious.
 

Mr. S£im Citrus

Doryphore of KingsFans.com
Staff member
#18
Are there really that many Kings Fans that legit don't watch any NBA basketball besides the Kings? Because I don't seem to hear any of this backlash about Barkley or anybody else on the national stage being stupid, uninformed, un-entertaining, et cetera, unless they're talking about the Kings. Do Kings Fans seriously make judgments on how good national heads are according to how complimentary or "fair" they are to the Kings?
 
#19
WCS could surprise a lot people, if he gets some freedom and takes the initiative on offense. I liked what I've seen from Porzingis, really active on offense, not afraid of contacts, fights for a position and surprisingly held his own against Cousins on defense.
 
#23
I think Rudy likes playing Carmelo. They're very similar players and there's pride on the line to one up the other guy. They had a pretty epic duel last December at Sleep Train. He's certainly capable of playing strong individual defense. We've just got to motivate him to play with the same pride on defense for every game...
I agree. I'll just add I think both Cuz & Rudy are still a little banged up. A few days without a game should serve the team well.

BTW how open was their rookie on that play?
 
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#24
Are there really that many Kings Fans that legit don't watch any NBA basketball besides the Kings? Because I don't seem to hear any of this backlash about Barkley or anybody else on the national stage being stupid, uninformed, un-entertaining, et cetera, unless they're talking about the Kings. Do Kings Fans seriously make judgments on how good national heads are according to how complimentary or "fair" they are to the Kings?
I watch a lot of NBA basketball. But because I ususally watch games in re-live on league pass I never watch half time shows or any other broadcasting content other than the guys doing the play-by-play or color analysis during the game time. There are some guys, that stand out to me, because they are very biased (Heinsohn f.e.) or boring (the Clippers crew with their Haggle - No-Haggle thing, Mark Jackson with the same "Hand down, man down" slogan every time f.e.), but mostly the guys know their stuff and do a decent job.
I never witnessed a member of a broadcasting crew to be that unprepared and with that kind of a negative agenda towards one player like Charles Barkley.
 
#25
Beyond the fact that Barkley is still allowed to broadcast games from time to time, he was allowed 5-10 minutes to talk about politics after the game and sounded like a buffoon.
 
#27
Are there really that many Kings Fans that legit don't watch any NBA basketball besides the Kings? Because I don't seem to hear any of this backlash about Barkley or anybody else on the national stage being stupid, uninformed, un-entertaining, et cetera, unless they're talking about the Kings. Do Kings Fans seriously make judgments on how good national heads are according to how complimentary or "fair" they are to the Kings?
Seriously? Barkley gets ripped all the time. He's a curmudgeon. He hates analytics, thinks shooting 3s is dumb. His basketball knowledge is rudimentary at best. He's an entertainer, not an analyst.

I like him fwiw. I think he's funny and id pay money to hang with him for a night at a casino.
 
#30
I just realized something:

Unless I'm mistaken, I wasn't pissed off at Cousins tonight for any mugging faces, slumped shoulders, bitching at refs, incredibly slow jog-backs on defense, etc.

I can't remember the last game where his petulant/whiny behavior never caught my eye/ire even once during a game.

Maybe Webb and Barkley should announce more Kings games, eh?
Boogie certainly was on his best behavior tonight - cuz if he wasn't, they woulda been barking about his attitude all game long.
Whew, that was close, you almost said something positive.