[Grades] Grades v. Hornets 01/21/2013

Who would you have played more in the second half to try to win this?

  • Thompson

    Votes: 3 9.4%
  • Thornton

    Votes: 8 25.0%
  • Johnson

    Votes: 1 3.1%
  • Robinson

    Votes: 1 3.1%
  • Brooks

    Votes: 1 3.1%
  • Cisco

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Hayes

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Jimmer

    Votes: 16 50.0%
  • Salmons

    Votes: 2 6.3%

  • Total voters
    32
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
How do you grade this?

This was really a game about desperation. We came out in the first half and just laid down like dogs. Mangy dogs. Maybe it was the start time. Maybe the news about the sale. Maybe who knows. But it was pretty much an embarrassment as we just largely quit out there. You could see it. Eveyrbody just quit. No effort. No nothing. It was pathetic. And then we came out of halftime after what must have been a major tongue lashing or bit of soul searching, and we played desperate. And Smart coached desperate, knowing with the team sold his Maloof safety blanket is gone and he has to either win and mount an improbable run, or he's fired. And so behind 3 main guys, Cousins, Reke and IT, and with just a little bit of help from JT and Outlaw (at "PF" of course) we mounted a huge comeback, and if we just hadn't played like mangy dogs before half, we would have been right there. We cut a 27 point lead down to 7 late in the game, but when you start that far back all it takes is one mistake, them hitting one tough shot, and you're done. And we were. So grades are going to be difficult.

Given the comeback, but still eventual loss, for the first time in a bit we'll go with a non-Girls thems. Theme tonight will be Tiny Houses.

We've got the full (well for the time being, more recruits needed) Grading Consortium back online for this one.

The Grading Consortium is:
Bricklayer
Bajaden
Capt. Factorial


Boxscore

Stats: 29min 5pts (1-4, 1-2, 2-2) 1reb 4ast 1stl 0blk 0TO
Salmons ( C -) -- John only took 4 shots in the game, one being a 3 pt'er which he made. He also had 4 assists, all packed into 29 exciting minutes. Well, maybe not so exciting. He started the game with a nice bounce pass to Cuz for a basket. He then lost Aminu at the other end who scored on an alley oop. He made a pass to JT in traffic for a basket, and took his first shot of the game at the 9 minute mark of the 1st quarter and missed. He later drove to the basket and had his shot blocked, and went to the bench. He came back into the game with around 2 minutes left in the half. He got tripped going to the basket and converted two freethrows for his first points of the game. In the second half, he played good defense on Aminu, at one point stopping the ball on a break and causing a missed shot. His shooting didn't get any better as he missed a pullup from 7 feet. He went almost 7 minutes in the 4th quarter without touching the ball. Finally, he gets a pass at the top of the circle where he hits a 3 pointer. All in all, John didn't really much inpact on the game one way or the other, but its hard to downgrade a player too much, when no one passes him the ball. --Baja
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A mere $24k can get you one of these.

Stats: 17min 7pts (3-4, 0-0, 1-2) 6reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 3TO
Thompson ( B- ) -- there was a little mystery to JT's limited minutes in this one, as he was generally effective, at least compared to most on the roster, and yet still played short minutes each half and watched from the bench for the last 18 minutes. Got off to a quick start with a d-board and then a couple of little layups set up by teammates -- one nice trait in this game was how many easy ones our big guys got from us passing in there. Was finally on the boards a little too, a very welcome sight after weeks without it. Quickly slowed as did the rest of the team and ended up watching our backups completely refuse to guard Ryan Anderson as he destroyed us in the second quarter. And as we progressively threw TRob, JJ, Salmons and Cisco at the problem to no effect I could not help thinking that Smart had outsmarted himsel again, anticipating a problem with JT guarding Anderson on the perimeter, and then going and creating a larger problem for us by taking him out, losing his rebounding, and having Anderson destroy the guys we threw at him anyway. Started the third with a little tip follow of an IT miss and we agian saw some aggression on the glass as he actually waded back in traffic to snatch boards rather than passively fluttering about. Threw a terrible pass over Reke's head in the mid 3rd as our first attempt at a push fizzled, and then although he was not playing terribly aside from the TOs he was abrubtly pulled with 4 min left in the third to be replaced by Travis Outlaw of all people. Should be noted BTW that Ryan Anderson had started the third, and had no points aginst Jason. In fact Anderson drained 7 threes on the night -- and not 1 of them came while Jason was on the floor, so if that was the matchup problem we feared, we were fearing the wrong thing. One other interesting thing though -- while JT was not playing poorly, coincidence or not Outlaw's arrival coincided with us going on a huge 17-0 run down the stretch of the 3rd that got us right back into the game.--Brick
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Thing is, as ridiculous as that house looks like outside, inside they've managed to stuff all the comforts of a studio apartment. You've got a kitchen with a little oven, microwave, sink, counter. A sleeping loft over a bathroom, with a shower. Its tight, but a clever use of space.

Stats: 41min 29pts (11-17, 0-2, 7-9) 13reb 3ast 0stl 0blk 2TO
Cousins ( A ) -- another big thumping effort as the Cousins prophecy continues to be fulfilled. His January numbers remain at 21.9pts 12.6reb 3.6ast on .505 shooting, in the last 10 its 22.4-12.1-3.5, in the last 5 its 23.0-13.0-3.8. Looking back its sad to see what might have been if he had just had his revelation back in training camp rather than two months into the season. Might have been the only King to come out of the first half with a grade above the Ds, and got off to a strong start with a nice pass, a finsh inside, a jumper. But then got quiet and somewhat forgotten about by the other Kings who really should know better by this point. When retiurned late in the half had a great matchup inside but we could not consistently take advantage of it. Dribbled the ball off his own foot trying to get the 2 for 1 in the last seconds of the half, kinda epitomizing our first half collapse. Its funny how few notes I have about his play after half given how dominant he was. But the thing was there was a little different flavor this tiem, because he was dominant and highly efficient this time more as an off the ball player than by creating shots on his own. Reke in particular was finding ways to get the ball to him again and agian inside, It was hitting him in there, and he was just using that big body for power slams, throwing those shoulders around, and generally beasting with very few dribbles or jumpers involved. Left all alone in there on the glass when we went to Outlaw, but generally took care of business for us by hismelf. While Reke and IT caused havoc on the perimeter, Cousins was the big engine in the middle, and I finally after some thought just decided to follow the numbers on this grade. I keep on finding reasons to give him an A-, but if you aren't going to give a guy an A for 29pts 13rebs on 11-17 shooting, when are you? That's Shaq in his prime numbers, and he was about that unstoppable for the Hornets. --Brick
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Looking back the other way -- see? All the comforts of home.

Stats: 37min 16pts (5-12, 0-2, 6-7) 2reb 4ast 2stl 0blk 1TO
Evans ( B- ) -- kind of epimozed the team's game tonight. Very briefly looked energetic in the opening minutes, was wearing Gordon early on defense but being frozen out on offense. But once he was fianlly involved, you kind of wished he was refrozen because things went south for him at the same time they did for us. Missed both his early jumpers and had an odd looking turnover where it looked like he intended to switch hands in mid air and just did not take into account that Robin Lopez's body was between his hands. Got a layup blocked by Davis as well, and even his defense sagged as Gordon got by him repeatedly. After sitting forever watching Marcus chuck up brick after brick, finally finally got back into Gordon defensively in the final minues of the first half., but it was still a poor half for him, and a terrible one for us. Things turned in a big way after the break though. Was more involved from the getgo in the third and was finding inventive ways to get big Cuz the ball. Looked clumsier thn normal on his drives, but had a number of big swoopers. But it was on the other end where he really shined, getting up on Gordon and smothering him and creating all kinds of problems for the Hornets tryign to bring it up. As soon as Outlaw entered the game, backed his dribble out, iso'd his man, then beat him with a spin dribble into the middle and kick to Outlaw for a corner three that dropped the lead to 16. Got switched over to Vasquez to being the 4th, as IT was getting killed and the Hornets had put in Roger Mason. Came up with a great steal on a pass intended for Vasquez up top in the early 4th, and finished it with an alley oop pass to Outlaw. But wasn't able to wrap Vasquez up quite as tight as Gordon, and the jumper never came online. He teamed with ocusins to give us a heck of a push, and they were working very well together, slapping hands after plays and in general playing with the moxy of a team's tow best players on a mission. But the mission got started too late unfortunately. --Brick
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At 312 square feet, this itsy bitsy Toronto home seemed appropriate to precede IT's grade.

Stats: 40min 20pts (8-14, 1-1, 3-3) 1reb 3ast 1stl 0blk 4TO
Thomas ( B ) -- Thomas did not have the strongest of first halves. The good that he did, including hitting a streaking Tyreke on the break and leaking out himself for an easy layup, was somewhat counteracted by a few mistakes (a blown alley-oop pass, a soft inbounds pass that he must not have seen because it sauntered right in front of him and out of bounds) and the fact that the Kings were down 25 at the half. The second half started hardly better, including a sequence where Thomas committed an offensive foul and a defensive foul on Vasquez in a total of 7 seconds. But about midway through the third the Kings turned it on, and IT was a big part of it. He hit our first three of the game, and followed that up by driving to the hoop for two and stealing an inbounds pass for another breakaway, all shortly after drawing a charge on an out-of-control Vasquez. Unfortunately, the comeback kind of stalled there and eventually Vasquez' deep 3 (with IT 5 feet away behind the three point line) put the dagger in it. On the bright side, IT scored 20 points on 14 shots while still seemingly spending most of his time setting up Cuz and Tyreke. His defense took a step up today, and at times he did a better job getting through screens and once or twice stymied a drive attempt. But for the amount that the New Orleans offense was focused on Ryan Anderson and Eric Gordon (38 shots between them), Vasquez managed to quietly score 13 points on him and many of his assists, including an alley-oop early in the first quarter that set the tone for the half that eventually killed us. --Capt.
 
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Bench

Stats: 12min 6pts (1-5, 0-0, 4-5) 1reb 0ast 0stl 1blk 0TO
Johnson ( D- ) -- JJ entered the game at the 3:30 mark of the 1st quarter and immediately missed his first shot off a pass by Cuz. At the other end he tied up Davis for a jump ball, but Davis won the toss. A little later, he totally missed an alleyoop from IT as the ball sailed past him and out of bounds. He later threw up a wild shot in the post that had no chance of going in. Finally he was fouled on a drive and made both freethrows. He repeated that performance a little later in the quarter. He scores his first and only basket on a drive down the lane and is fouled, and misses the freethrow. He endes his performance by taking two 3 pt'ers early in the shot clock and misses both. His defense in the game was hard to judge. He blocked a shot under the basket, and played good man defense at times stopping the ball. But he also left Anderson open over and over again. He didn't play in the second half. At one point, I had him down for a C-, but when the game was going south at the end of the 2nd quarter, ahd launched two three's in a row with a lot of time left on the shot clock, his grade took a hit. --Baja
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514 square feet. $292,000. Location, location, location. (Los Gatos)

Stats: 11min 4pts (2-9, 0-3, 0-0) 4reb 1ast 1stl 0blk 0TO
Thornton ( D ) -- Thornton was not at all on tonight. His shot was not falling (despite, or perhaps because of, a couple of forces), and his uninspired defense included leaving his arms at his side to allow Austin Rivers to make an easy pass over the top for a layup. He did get one steal for a breakaway and did a pretty good job on the boards in his short minutes, so it wasn't all bad. Ultimately he allowed 6 points on 5 shots (5 of those points coming from some questionable matching-up with Ryan Anderson) and once he left in the second quarter, he didn't come back. Even though we didn't finish the comeback, I'm not sure we missed him. --Capt.
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Down to 104 square feet on this one in Seattle.. Pretty for a closet. Get a kick out of the way all these things claim to have a kitchen, bathroom, "living/dining area" (that would be the 5 square feet in front of the couch), sleeping area (mattress on loft) etc.

Stats: 10min 2pts (1-3, 0-0, 0-0) 4reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Robinson ( D+ ) -- I really wanted to give him a C-, or perhaps an INC. But he did play 10 minutes in the game, and while he hustled, and grabbed a few tough rebounds, he just didn't do enought to give him more than a D+. He did fake Thomas out of his shoes for a lightning quick drive to the basket for a reverse layup. Unfortunately, he and James Johnson took turns forgetting about some dude named Anderson on the other team. T. Robb only took 3 shots in the game and didn't play in the second half. --Baja
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100 square feet in Edinburg. Claims to have a full shower and full sized bed inside, and generates enough power form the solar panel roof that the government will actually pay you $1600 a year to live in it.

Stats: 8min 2pts (1-3, 0-1, 0-0) 1reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Brooks ( INC ) -- Brooks only managed 8 minutes in this one and had a bit of good, a bit of bad. Like IT, he also failed to connect on an alley-oop, but he was also unfairly denied an assist for his setup of Hayes' only basket. He made one of three shots (though one was an end-of-quarter three) and allowed 2 points on 1 shot - the Hornets weren't really attacking him. In the end, he just didn't affect the game enough in his low minutes to earn any grade at all. --Capt.
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89 square feet in CA. It claims to have an "entertainment area", which would be what you are looking at. A kitchen with real plumbing (woot!) a bathroom with shower, and even a working fireplace for heat. And I guess in a big for authenticity, its the home of the owner of The Tumbleweed Tiny House Company. Practice what you preach ad all that.

Stats: 7min 2pts (1-1, 0-0, 0-0) 0reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Hayes ( INC ) -- remember the days when Chuck hayes used to do something? Anything? Well...not sure I do either, kinda predates his Sacramento time. But this however has just gotten ridiculous. He's a goose egg machine. The only thing he did in 7 minutes was actually come up with an out of nowhere nice little post move. No boarding. No defensive impact Nada.. --Brick
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and now 84 square feet. The woman who lives in it used to have a 1500 square foot home, sold it, built this one for $10,000, and now lives in it virtually free parked in a friend's backyard powered by solar panels on the roof and heated by propane.
 
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Stats: 11min 2pts (1-3, 0-2, 0-0) 1reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Garcia ( D ) -- in for the first time late in the half. Took a dumb rushed three in the final minute of the half that bricked and just worsened our misery. Actually was returned ot the game for the final 6 minutes for a largely ineffective Salmons. then proceeded to show him how ineffective is done. Did grab a d-board, a pretty good one actually, and always a rarity with him. but missed an open three wiht 2 1/2 min to go that we jsut absolutely needed, and di nothing else to make up for it.
--Brick
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at 60 square feet, this 6'x10' little red house is called the Quay House, billed as the smallest in England, and has actually become something of a tourist attraction in Wales.

Stats: 16min 10pts (3-6, 1-2, 3-4) 2reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Outlaw ( B- ) -- suddenly inserted with 4min to go in the 3rd as a PF (leaving Cuz all alone on the glass), and wihtin a minute of entering Reke hit him in the corner for a spot up three to cut the lead to 16. More aggressive off his dribble than we have seen him, and got a dunk on the break from Reke in the early 4th. Follwoed that witha long jumpor, but was selfish with them as the glass slipper fell off in the later stages of the game, just pulling up for them with no passing and hurting us wiht bricks. And it was a one trick pony outing -- gave us a boost with about 6 minutes of shooting, but just too weak to help in the boards when Cuz was not in back there to handle the duties, and down the stretch got nothign done (JT was my choice in the poll above BTW).--Brick
 
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couple of interesting things i gathered from the box score:

-Cousins and Evans ended with 40 and 37 minutes respectively. its funny that in a game where Smart gave them NO rest in the 2nd half due to the comeback, they get the minutes they SHOULD always get. show you how badly he manages their minutes in the first half today, and in most all games

-Tyreke and Salmons both had MORE assists than our starting "Point Guard". DeMarcus had the same amount as our PG. and all 3 (Cousins, Salmons, Reke) had LESS turnovers than our starting PG.........
 
Between the reported sale and the performance (do we even call it that) of the Kings today it is hard to imagine that there has been a lower day for Kings fans.

Don't even bother with the grades. Certainly you have something better to do with your time. Just give us the eye candy.
 
I thought before the game came on that I could watch it independent of the potential Seattle relocation situation, I was wrong.. didn't feel as invested
 
i see your sarcasm. but when our PG has 3 assists/4 turnovers, takes 14 shots (second most on the team) and gets destroyed by Grieves Vasquez, maybe its fair for people to be wondering if we need a Starting PG

Vasquez put up 18 points and 13 assists against Rubio, i assume Mini are looking to ditch him ASAP.
 
Vasquez put up 18 points and 13 assists against Rubio, i assume Mini are looking to ditch him ASAP.

not the point. when your starting PG puts up an assist/turnover ratio of .75 and shoots the ball more than any other person on your team besides 1, thats not a PG, and thats not helping the team. he's taking the ball out of the hands of the more effective players on this team
 
Between the reported sale and the performance (do we even call it that) of the Kings today it is hard to imagine that there has been a lower day for Kings fans.

Don't even bother with the grades. Certainly you have something better to do with your time. Just give us the eye candy.

I assume you turned it off at half? I'm sure a lot of people did.

But might want to recheck those boxscores if you did. A game broke out.
 
It is the point, you seem to be suggesting anyone who lets Vasquez put up big numbers isn't NBA fit.

IT's first move 90% of the time is to get the ball to Cuz, One of the big reasons he was brought back into the starting line up, and definitely a good thing.

I'd have to go back and look to see if he takes all these "Bad shots" he's accused of but i definitely don't remember them. If he has open shots or gets into the lane for a layup I sure hope he takes them.
 
It is the point, you seem to be suggesting anyone who lets Vasquez put up big numbers isn't NBA fit. .

im not saying that at all. its more the point that every PG he plays against has a big game

and im not saying that IT is the reason this game was lost. thats not the case at all. but just pointing out that his assist numbers are usually not the best on the team and he shoots more than almost everyone on the team. not really the recipe for a PG
 
But every point guard he plays doesn't have a big game. in the past he's kept guards like Rondo, Nash and Tony Parker in check.

recently we've been having trouble defending the perimeter thats for sure, whether you decide to blame that on IT is up to you.
 
But every point guard he plays doesn't have a big game. in the past he's kept guards like Rondo, Nash and Tony Parker in check.

recently we've been having trouble defending the perimeter thats for sure, whether you decide to blame that on IT is up to you.


well when our wing defenders have to leave their man open on the 3pt line to help out because IT got beat by his man, and then that man kicks it out to the open guy on the wing for 3, you decide who ultimately caused that problem.
 
I'm just not that bothered about being "right on the internet" to go through and see all these threes he knocked down.

I'd be surprised if they were all as you describe.
 
I'm just not that bothered about being "right on the internet" to go through and see all these threes he knocked down.

I'd be surprised if they were all as you describe.

im not talking about tonight. im talking about in general it happens a lot every night
 
But every point guard he plays doesn't have a big game. in the past he's kept guards like Rondo, Nash and Tony Parker in check.

recently we've been having trouble defending the perimeter thats for sure, whether you decide to blame that on IT is up to you.

I'm not putting this all on IT, but here's what PG's have done against us recently.

Vasquez-19/11/7

Kemba-14/10/4/4
Session-16/4/5

Conley-19/4/5

Price-7/4
Wall-14/10/3/3(off bench)

Chalmers-34/3/2/2

Collison-11/4/3

Conley-15/8/5

DWill-15/7/6

Calderon-13/3/1
Lowry-24/4/3(off bench)

Kyrie-22/6/5

Knight-20/4/2
Bynum-15/4/2


Most night is appears defending opposing PG's is a problem for us, and it isn't just stats but generally when they're that successful they're also dictating the tempo they want and getting where they want to on the floor. The only PG or PG tandem we've kept in check really this month was Collison, who frankly isn't that good and Carlisle had benched for awhile.
 
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im not talking about tonight. im talking about in general it happens a lot every night

the pick and roll/pop is one of the hardest things to defend in basketball, executed correctly it's damn near unplayable.

If you look at the good defensive teams like ur Miami's, Bostons, Memphis, Indiana etc They're all in tune with each other moving like they're all attached to one another constantly rotating and hitting their spots. It's not just about one guy.

I'm not saying IT is all NBA defense either, but he isn't a scrub in that department either IMO.
 
I tend to look at Thomas' defense like I do at Garcia's, in that his best defensive attribute is not one which is especially useful at his particular position.
 
the pick and roll/pop is one of the hardest things to defend in basketball, executed correctly it's damn near unplayable.

If you look at the good defensive teams like ur Miami's, Bostons, Memphis, Indiana etc They're all in tune with each other moving like they're all attached to one another constantly rotating and hitting their spots. It's not just about one guy.

I'm not saying IT is all NBA defense either, but he isn't a scrub in that department either IMO.

Miami is built as an anti-P&R team. Indiana as well. Speed and good defensive rotations can kill it. We have some speed, but our defensive rotations are nearly non-existent.

Here's a thought for you. The thing that kills teams with the P&R is that you end up with either a lane to the basket, a mouse in the house on the big down low, or a wide open shot at the top of the key. IT does hurt us by being an extra mousy mouse which means we can never switch on the pick, so our help always has to scramble to shore up the lane to the basket while IT tries to get back in position. Therefore, we get a ton of wide open wing threes. (See Anderson, Ryan).

I love IT, but that does hurt our team defense.
 
I'm not putting this all on IT, but here's what PG's have done against us recently.

Vasquez-19/11/7

Kemba-14/10/4/4
Session-16/4/5

Conley-19/4/5

Price-7/4
Wall-14/10/3/3(off bench)

Chalmers-34/3/2/2

Collison-11/4/3

Conley-15/8/5

DWill-15/7/6

Calderon-13/3/1
Lowry-24/4/3(off bench)

Kyrie-22/6/5

Knight-20/4/2
Bynum-15/4/2


Most night is appears defending opposing PG's is a problem for us, and it isn't just stats but generally when they're that successful they're also dictating the tempo they want and getting where they want to on the floor. The only PG or PG tandem we've kept in check really this month was Collison, who frankly isn't that good and Carlisle had benched for awhile.

I'm not going to go through reems of stats but out of curiosity i just looked at Detroits guards mentioned there and they put up similar numbers on Rondo.

I also looked up Brooklyns last games and they gave up 2 huge nights to Jeff Teague. (i assume he's starting at the point for them i actually have no idea)

No one is going to tell me that D-will and Rondo are all to blame for that i doubt.
 
I'm not going to go through reems of stats but out of curiosity i just looked at Detroits guards mentioned there and they put up similar numbers on Rondo.

I also looked up Brooklyns last games and they gave up 2 huge nights to Jeff Teague. (i assume he's starting at the point for them i actually have no idea)

No one is going to tell me that D-will and Rondo are all to blame for that i doubt.

Rondo has a reputation as a good lock-down defender, but that is mostly undeserved. He is a passing-lane defender with quick hands and good on rotations, but his guy tends to shoot over him a fair amount. Both Knight and Bynum are ranged threats, so it's not unusual to score on Rondo like that.

D-Will is a good man defender and is strong enough to get through screens pretty well. No excuses there.
 
I think that we all might agree thatou 3 PGs are defensive liabilities especially when pitted against height, speed and smarts. How could NBA PGs not feast at that altar? So what do we do next?
 
I think that we all might agree thatou 3 PGs are defensive liabilities especially when pitted against height, speed and smarts. How could NBA PGs not feast at that altar? So what do we do next?

This is the obvious point and arguing the details of each PG seems silly. They are all deficient an a serious manner. A trade can straighten this out and better straighten this out now that we know how they all play. We can't stick with three small PGs.
 
As an aside, on the IT question, I just got done rewatching the second half now that I'm home (did not think there was much point in rewatching the first half), and while IT was the third leg of our Cousins/Reke/IT trifecta, he got KILLED on defense by Vasquez in that third quarter, and again when he edned up guarding him briefly near the end of the game (we wisely switched Reke onto him to start the 4th). It was about equally split with his new allergy to fighting through screens, and his twerpiness, as the much much bigger Vasquez would just make simple moves, get Isaiah on his shoulder, and then just take him right to the hoop. Or shoot over him. I think IT's defense was the proximate cause of at least half of the Hornets' 3rd quarter points.

Now you may wuv you some IT to death, but that's just the way it happened. I still call him one of the legs of the trifecta because he was, and it was more positive than negative. But he was kind of the designated get beat guy on defense until we were able to hide him on Roger Mason for a while. You can't say that lost the game for us, but you can say it certainly impeded our comeback (a comeback IT helped trigger otherwise).
 
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IT in an ideal world will be Reke's 15min/game backup, 10 min on normal games, 20 min when they need some scoring punch with a small lineup.
Same with Hayes as Cuz's backup. Those games where they don't need IT's offense, Chuck would see 20 min. Otherwise he gets 10 minutes spot PT.
 
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