Grades v. Heat 03/04

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Bricklayer

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Peja ( C- ) -- started off the game very aggressive offensively, but then just kind of faded away and was totally irrelevant. Showed up here and there afterwards, but no extended stretches. There was more attention being paid to him, but didn't look to be THAT much, so not really sure what it was. On a positive note, moved the ball pretty well and one of his more solid boarding efforts of the season. Need more from him though if we are to compete with elite teams at this point.
Songaila ( C+ ) -- a little help here, a little help there from Darius, but not much of a game overall. Started off the game giving nothing on the boards but helping replace some of Brad's passing, but it was a brief burst. Struggled in the third and did not match Udonis Haslem's energy or boardwork. did a nice job of fronting Shaq when he got switched off onto him.
Skinner ( B+ ) -- solid numbers aside, did a pretty good job in there against Shaq. Shaq didn't appear to be really bringing it, but Brian did a nice job of staying in between him and the hoop and turning around to clean up the defensive glass. Also delivered a few hard fould on Shaq just to let him know that he wasn't going to be a pushover. Always nice to see our band of traveling softies get a little thuggish boost. About as much as I could have hoped for tonight given the obvious mismatch in the middle, but one consequence of guarding Shaq was Skinner had no time or energy to try to stop anybody else's penetration.
Mobley ( C ) -- got off to a reasonable offensive start, but did not notice him in any other aspect of the game. Saw him shaking his hand out there in the first quarter + wonder how the dislocated finger was feeling (although i will say, and just throwing this out there -- does anybody else get a bit of a Kobe Bryant feeling about Mobley and injuries? Bit of a drama queen maybe?) Gave us another burst of offense in the 4th when he was about the only guy doing anything out there for a long stretch, but wasn't remotely enough. Left the game late in the 4th with some sort of injury which we do NOT need. I find myself continually giving Cat "Cs" anymore even when he gets about his average in points. Not sure what to say about that -- I'm just not terribly satisified with his game right now, other than the clutch performances. Just seems to get numbers that have absolutely no impact whatsoever.
Bibby ( B ) -- a pretty solid game from Mike, and he was clearly our best player tonight. But not an impact performance at all, and just did not feel inspired (like the rest of the team). Pretty efficient offensively but made a couple of oddly careless turnovers. About the only King other than Skinner who showed any interest in getting inside + drawing fouls -- missed a couple more FTs and still does not look 100% comfortable there.
Ostertag ( C ) -- odd substitution pattern tonight with Tag -- rather than put him in early to check Shaq wiht size, we instead elected to match Skinnner with Shaq all night and brough Tag in to match up wiht the perimeter shooting Michael Doleac. Grabbed a few boards, did block a shot, but also made a couple of bad turnovers (one of them in garbagetime after the game was over).
House ( B- ) -- decent reserve minutes tonight, but no real impact.
Thomas ( C ) -- had good energy tonight, but didn't do much with it. Came in and missed a jumper, and then found a successful formula using his quickness to drive to the hoop. But when Miami brought in Christian Laettner, who has actually developed into a pretty decent defender, KT was repeatedly stripped as he kept on forcing things. And never did show up on the glass for us.
Williamson ( D- ) -- really did nothing at all out there tonight. Looked short and slow, and kept on forcing shots in amongst the trees that got sent back into his face. No help on the glass again either. This looks like an "F" statistically, but I just didn't feel like he was even significant enogh to the outcome to "earn" the lowest grade. Just wasted impotent minutes, but not the reason we lost.
Evans ( B- ) -- pretty good energy out there, and helped on the glass and defense in his minutes. Nothing spectacular here, but more effective than most of our guys tonight.
Martin ( INC ) -- couple of garbagetime minutes

Adelman ( C+ ) -- we just had no energy tongiht -- we were really kind of beat before we even walked on the floor. Long strange road trip, and I'm just not sure that we really beleive we can beat a team like Miami anymore. Coming home is desperately needed. Rick played just about everybody, but wasn't much spark off the bench either. Thomas looked like he had some energy, but he mostly just turned the ball over. More Mo might have been nice but right now we are dependant upon Cat and Peja as our #2 and #3 guns, and Rick is reluctant to pull those players even when they are flat. The move to start the undersized Skinner vs. Shaq rather than big ole Tag surprosed me, but worked out pretty well. Brian did a nice job in there and justified the move. Hard to tell whetehr it was Rick or not, but we did start the game with alittle burst of energy, and had another little burst to open the 3rd. But could not sustain, and in the third in particular Rick might have stuck with the ineffective starters over the ineffective reserves a little too long. Nonetheless, we basically had nobody play really well tongiht, but were in it heading into the 4th. That was when the Heat, who had been sleepwalking themsleves, finally woke up. Unfortunately we just went right on snoozing. Just a tough tough situation -- we are barely even a team right now, we're battered with injuries, and we walked onto the home court of a legit contender. Bad news.
 

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fair fair fair

the road trips over...lets get home...the boys/coaches have a nice long trip back to Cali to figure things out

please Brad tell me you are gonna be in their Sunday afternoon...

to me its kinda funny...you really don't realize how much Brad does for Kings basketball until he's out a game...::shakes head::

GO KINGS!!
 
iheartBrad said:
f.

to me its kinda funny...you really don't realize how much Brad does for Kings basketball until he's out a game...::shakes head::

GO KINGS!!

If You need Brad to miss game - to realize his importance - you really have to be very very blind.
 
Ya all must be grading on a curve. Typicaly I toss out one testa dn one paper in my classes. This would be the game I would toss out.
 
Only way Darius gets that "+" is his four assists. Not much of an offensive juggernaut out there tonight, on a night when he had plenty of opportunities-and easy ones at that.

Adelman's reluctance to sit flat, tired players puzzles me. I know Cat has been clutch in the 4th when he does nothing significant the first three quarters, and Peja and Bibby have been known to come from behind FG% wise and hit clutch shots late in the game, but when we are down almost the entire game it doesn't seem wise to beat the guys down for some 'possible' ability to make the comeback. Just leave one starter in there for 5 to 6 minutes and the rest all fresh legs and see what happens?

Anyway, good to know we get to see the Arco crowd on Sunday, it will be nice to be home. :)
 
piksi said:
If You need Brad to miss game - to realize his importance - you really have to be very very blind.

if what i said came across that way to people i apologize

now obviously Brad means a great deal to the team...

but for me anyways i find myself saying "well we can survive a game without Brad" but in reality its a much harder task then what i originally thought...::shrugs::
 
Without watching or listening to the game and only reviewing the stats, I'd agree that the grades are fair. I'd hoped that the Kings might raise up and shock Miami after playing so poorly against the Bobcats and losing a shootout to Orlando, but can't say that I'm surprised with the outcome given the fact that this is Shaq vs. a team without its starting center. I too thought OTag might get the start in this game just to see if he could bring anything against Shaq, but it appears Skinner put forth a solid effort. Surprised that Corliss wasn't able to have a better game considering the scrubs that Miami trots out at the SF/PF positions at all times.

Edit: I'd also assumed that Peja would have a big game considering the guys that he is competing against at the SF spot, but apparently he just didn't have the touch tonight -- 1 for 7 from 3 is certainly not a stat you'd expect from Peja (or at least not from any version of Peja prior to this year's Peja).
 
ReinadelosReys said:
I debated over saying it for a while. I wish it were not true. I really do. But we've become used to that very sentence over the years. Especially against good teams.
 
Heuge said:
I debated over saying it for a while. I wish it were not true. I really do. But we've become used to that very sentence over the years. Especially against good teams.

and in playoffs.:( Hopefully this is just an off night though, and not a sign of things to come.
 
The one night where you can utilize Tag and you put him on Doleac!!! What a joke, Adelman gets an F for that alone.
 
SacTownKid said:
The one night where you can utilize Tag and you put him on Doleac!!! What a joke, Adelman gets an F for that alone.
Shaq had 18pg 7 rpg...Do you think Tag would have done better?
 
Heuge said:
Shaq had 18pg 7 rpg...Do you think Tag would have done better?

Maybe we wouldn't have had to DOUBLE TEAM HIM AS MUCH!!!!!!!!!! Shaq didn't kill us but the collapsing of the defense to help on Shaq did!
 
SacTownKid said:
Maybe we wouldn't have had to DOUBLE TEAM HIM AS MUCH!!!!!!!!!! Shaq didn't kill us but the collapsing of the defense to help on Shaq did!
Hate to break this to you, but Tag isn't very good. He does not play Shaq one on one.
 
Heuge said:
Hate to break this to you, but Tag isn't very good. He does not play Shaq one on one.

I think he can actually. And would have been the more logical matchup. But the doubles on Shaq weren't what killed us tonight. Shaq's impact was (for Shaq) fairly minimal. Wasn't the story tonight. Indeed, we were right there in a sloppy low energy game, and when the Heat broke the game open Shaq was actually on the bench.
 
Bricklayer said:
I think he can actually. And would have been the more logical matchup. But the doubles on Shaq weren't what killed us tonight. Shaq's impact was (for Shaq) fairly minimal. Wasn't the story tonight. Indeed, we were right there in a sloppy low energy game, and when the Heat broke the game open Shaq was actually on the bench.
Almost true. Had Tag logged long min against Sahq it is likely that a fresh Skinner would ahve been on the floor for the Kings when the Heat got rolling. Now I am the last guy to wait for Brian Skinner to save our team but it might ahve help hod the D together and his inside )only) game would have been much more effective.
 
at least give mobley a C+ or B- he shoot and limited his turnovers compared to the past games....
 
Started the game good with lots of effort and actually played some good D. Then just couldn't make shot and started turning the ball over (thanks to a few good Heats D). Lots of open looks and couldn't knock it down while Heats were knocking theirs. There were times especially on the offense that they seem lost... Can't really blame the Kings players since the new guys don't know the offense well and we had no Brad.

Heard that the players will not be practing tomorrow so still no practices time before the Pistons game. But it's nice to see the guys back home in Sac! :)
 
Good grades Brick.


Im liking Skinner more and more.


Bricklayer said:
Mobley ( C ) -- got off to a reasonable offensive start, but did not notice him in any other aspect of the game. Saw him shaking his hand out there in the first quarter + wonder how the dislocated finger was feeling (although i will say, and just throwing this out there -- does anybody else get a bit of a Kobe Bryant feeling about Mobley and injuries? Bit of a drama queen maybe?) Gave us another burst of offense in the 4th when he was about the only guy doing anything out there for a long stretch, but wasn't remotely enough. Left the game late in the 4th with some sort of injury which we do NOT need. I find myself continually giving Cat "Cs" anymore even when he gets about his average in points. Not sure what to say about that -- I'm just not terribly satisified with his game right now, other than the clutch performances. Just seems to get numbers that have absolutely no impact whatsoever.


As more I see Cat.. Im increasingly becoming less of a fan. Doesnt really fit in with us or anyteam really. Hes looking more like his best friend everyday..... And thats not a good thing.

Not only did Cat hold his finger but he also was milking that lower back as well.
 
Good grading, Brick. I rarely comment on actual grades, because it would be nit picking at best and this time it is no different. All the grades were deserved and well weighted. However, I must raise a point about overall play. This was not even resembling Kings play. I know, I know, we need Brad back and some practice for new guys before we can hoist any more expectations on this new team. And I am sure that Rick and Pete will get career years out of our newbies simply because our system works that way. Still, I was very dissapointed to see forced shots early in the clock and complete offensive breakdowns that would go on for minutes at the time. Especially from Pedja. I am sure he is feeling pressure and he feels like he needs to "do something" but Pedja, please, leave hoisting up bad shots early in the clock to eastern conference "superstars". Let's play Kings ball, win or lose. We know it works in the long run.
 
SIR HENRY 8 said:
I agree with MOST not all grades,but the photo of RA at the bottom sums up what he thought of tonights performance.

or maybe his thoughts on the rest of the season. i'd like to think he's thinking...why petrie why???????
 
thecatandbib2312 said:
i think we threw away the season with that trade

Welcome to the board! You might want to check out some of the other threads that are talking about our thoughts for the rest of the season, etc...

Now, back to the topic at hand.

I didn't get to see the whole game (sorry for no PBP thread). I did see enough to believe that, once again, Bricklayer's grades are pretty fair.

slugking50 - I understand where you're coming from, but I am not going to dog on any player at this point. Yes, some have done better than others but right now we're a training camp team tossed into March by some cruel evil wizard. (Gargamel, is this YOUR fault???) These guys have no rhythm together because they don't know each other. It may get worse before it gets better. And that's to be expected. I don't think you can judge ANYONE by what we've seen so far. It isn't fair to them, and IMHO it isn't fair to the coaches who are going to be trying to get them to some level of cohesion on the run.

Bottom line???

GO KINGS!!!!!
 
VF21 said:
slugking50 - I understand where you're coming from, but I am not going to dog on any player at this point. Yes, some have done better than others but right now we're a training camp team tossed into March by some cruel evil wizard. (Gargamel, is this YOUR fault???) These guys have no rhythm together because they don't know each other. It may get worse before it gets better. And that's to be expected. I don't think you can judge ANYONE by what we've seen so far. It isn't fair to them, and IMHO it isn't fair to the coaches who are going to be trying to get them to some level of cohesion on the run.

Bottom line???

GO KINGS!!!!!

Ahh c'mon VF you know who is truely at fault. It is the Evil Finley!!

Ok fair point. He really hasnt had much practice. Ill reaccess Mr Mobley after the season. Untill then ill keep my pie hole shut about Cat.. or try:p


I definatly agree GO KINGS!!!!
 
One thing-Defence,and kings gona kickass.This is'nt a way to play,like last night.
Defence are always been problem since 1998.Who is guilty for that?
 
Raci said:
One thing-Defence,and kings gona kickass.This is'nt a way to play,like last night.
Defence are always been problem since 1998.Who is guilty for that?

We were ranked #7 in OppFG% in 2002, #1 in OppFG% in 2003. Defense has NOT always been a problem. But the guys who made us good are all gone/old now. We won't be contenders again until we get a new crew able to get us back to that level.
 
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