[Grades] Grades v. Cavs 2/11/2014

Biggest defensive fail?

  • Gay

    Votes: 5 33.3%
  • Williams

    Votes: 7 46.7%
  • McLemore

    Votes: 3 20.0%

  • Total voters
    15
  • Poll closed .

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
KF_GradingConsortium201314600x378_zps660e18ea.jpg


This is getting borderline unwatchable. I feel as if I should apologize , but I am neither playing in these games, nor as I have repeatedly said over the past few years is this remotely how I would put together a roster.

Tonight none of the big three did anything special. Cousins had a strong first, then did nothing for two quarters before wobbling to the finish line as he let a scrub hack and slap him out of rhythm. He's had no energy this whole trip. He had no energy last trip either. makes me wonder a bit if he's still a kid who hasn't learned how to be disciplined when sleeping in a strange city/bed yet. But he didn't lose this for us. And no, neither did Isaiah. Nobody rebounded but Cuz, and he stopped after the first. Somehow the team abruptly looks depressed and not at all like a team. And the defense from the Gay/DWill/Ben trio was just horrific.

So, in honor of our team tonight doing something that the talent on the team says should be impossible -- we have somehow managed to sink down to the 4th worst record in the league -- I will be reinstituting Themes every loss from here on out. If I can barely watch, so can you, so something must be done to entertain before everybody goes poof again and decides they'd rather watch the Olympics, the NCAAs, and then a baseball team that's not even from their city.

Theme = Lovely Lakes

Your Consoritum Graders tonight:
Bricklayer
Uncia03
Bajaden
Capt. Factorial
Henkel


Boxscore

Stats: 33min 14pts (4-12, 0-2, 6-6) 9reb 3ast 1stl 1blk 3TO
Gay ( ) -- --Baja

Stats: 15min 0pts (0-0, 0-0, 0-0) 3reb 0ast 0stl 2blk 1TO
Thompson ( D+ ) -- Thompson had an early exit from the first quarter (his first stint lasted less than 6 minutes), and while the reason he left was that he had picked up two fouls, the reason he didn't come back was probably that he had completely failed to box out Tristan Thompson three times. This wasn't really an isolated thing - he missed the box on Tristan twice more in the third. Now it did look like Tristan was being extra slippery to get around him, but at the same time, that's pretty bad rebounding. And rebounding is one of the things we need JT to do, especially on a night when he doesn't even attempt a shot. The bright side for Thompson on the night, and the reason he didn't get an F, was his defense. For one, he came out in the third quarter, and in short order appeared to block four shots. He only got credit in the box score for two blocks, but at the very least he altered four shots into a miss. Several of those blocks were on help, and JT had a good help night, presented with six help opportunities in the paint and surrendering 0 points (on three shots) and stopping three drives. I'd say realistically, from JT we need eight points, eight boards, and good defense every game. We only got one of those three tonight - two of them were spectacular failures, but at least the defense was there. --Capt.
a_55444174-a.jpg

Plitvice Lakes, Croatia -- A spectacular series of lakes and waterfalls, its one of many beautiful lakes in that region of the world.

Stats: 36min 21pts (5-12, 0-0, 11-16) 10reb 0ast 0stl 1blk 4TO
Cousins ( C+ ) -- Despite the solid numbers the Kings weren't able to exploit Cousins obvious match up advantage down low. And although this was a better effort compared to the last couple still not as engaged as he was prior to going down with the turned ankle. Started things off with a nice little bank shot from mid range. Then got to work down low pinning Zeller, missing, then following it up for the easy put back. To the Cavs credit they were doing a good job, especially Deng, of doubling DeMarcus as soon as he started to dribble. Was still able to get some decent looks inside in the early going, although he was having some trouble finishing on his initial attempt. His only assisted basket of the first came off a nice little pick and roll with Jimmer. His defense wasn't very inspired in the early going and that didn't change much as things moved forward. Didn't see the ball enough during his second quarter stint as the offense had fallen into guys taking turns going one on one. Scary moment early in the third when he left his feet on a ball fake and then came down awkwardly while fouling to prevent the layup. Managed to walk it off without any noticeable effect. The team was having a tough time finding him down low, which is a shame because all Zeller and Thompson could do to slow Cousins down was hack him. Not his strongest night at the line, but found his rhythm eventually. When he came back in for the fourth the game was almost lost. Immediately threw a pass that never had a chance, which the Cavs turned into a easy fast break. To close things out was still bulling guys down low, but without the ability to get stops we couldn't get back into it. It's been a stellar season, so hopefully this lapse, and what ever has inspired it, are taken care by the time we come back from the break. --Henkel
photo-Lake-Bled-Slovenia-travel-pics-hh_dp12519536.jpg

Lake Bled, Slovenia -- speaking of which, right down the road is Slovenia's pride and joy, the famous Lake Bled, with its famous church sitting atop Bled Island in the middle of the lake. One of the few times a manmade structure actually adds rather than takes away form the beauty.

Stats: 25min 11pts (4-9, 3-7, 0-0) 0reb 0ast 1stl 0blk 2TO
Thornton ( C ) -- This wasn’t a horrible game by Thornton, though it still wasn’t all that impactful. He started the game off in the best way possible by hitting a wide open 3pt shot on the first offensive play of the game, but then followed that up with 3 bad plays. First there was a bad pick-n-roll pass to Cousins for a TO, then since he’d hit his last shot tried a contested 3pt shot which missed, and finally he bobbled a pass from Cousins on the FB and was unable to convert for the easy score. He started off the 3rd quarter in much of the way that he started off the 1st. About a minute into the game he knocked down another wide open 3pt shot then followed that up with a missed floater in the lane. He then hit another wide open 3pt shot and then followed that with a missed contested 3pt shot. So as you can see, his offense was hit and miss. He made most of his open looks and missed his contested looks. On defense he spent most of his time guarding the guy who used to call himself Jarret Jack. I don’t know what happened to this guy, but I’m sure Cavs fans wish he would show up after signing the long-term deal. By and large Jack really didn’t do much of anything against Thornton, so you could say Thornton played decent defense. Thornton did let Waiters back-door him for the final shot of the 3rd quarter, which was a pretty important play as the Kings needed to get that stop. So Thornton was one shot away from 50% shooting and hit some floor spacing 3pt shots. He played decent defense but didn’t give us much of anything in the other categories. --Uncia
960x640_pejzazh-ozero-taho-ssha-priroda-kaliforniya.jpg

Lake Tahoe, California/Nevada -- How about some Norcal local flavor to this list

Stats: 36min 16pts (7-14, 1-6, 1-5) 2reb 8ast 1stl 1blk 2TO
Thomas ( B- ) -- just never could get anything consistently established in this one. Hit a couple of little pullups in the early going before finally forcing one on an one on one never pass the ball possession, and for a couple of minutes I thought here we go again as he started forcing drives inside rather than kicking, and they were resulting in turnovers or misses that might as well be turnovers. But even that, thankfully, never really took hold and while there were a few ill advised shots, he never went through another prolonged gunning spell. Unfortunately assist total aside, he also never went on a prolonged got the offense humming spell either. He would make a good pass for an assist, in the early forth made a series of them over about 2-3min, but again, just nothing sustained. When he came back in the game in the 2nd, after a few miscommunications with Cuz and a missed open corner three, he had another little spurt with a little pullup and then ran a break the right way, dropping the pass off to DWill for a lay in. But same as always, it did not last, with us struggling he forced a dumb selfish drive down the left side 1 on 3...but hit it for a +1. Then forced a terrible off balance floating jumper thing trying to get us a 2 for 1 -- but with the percentages on that why not just turn it over and get it over with? The whole game was the same for he and the team. Ragged. No rhythm. To start the third the Cavs switched Jarret Jack over onto him instead of his preferred Kyrie matchup, but on defense he stayed on Irving and cranked up his intensity a bit there. That matchup has favored him for his entire career for whatever reason. Not sure if Jack had an effect or not -- IT missed early in the quarter, never really got going, but then again he never really was going. The larger concern was that IT was overdribbling and largely failing to find ways to get Cuz the ball. Just a question of size and passing cleverness. The Cavs were trying to deny Cuz, and Isaiah never did figure out how to beat that. This was another game where Jimmer was not trusted after half, so IT was set to run the entire second half again until it became clear this win wasn't happening and at the end of the game Malone tried to save a few minutes on his main guys' legs for the back to back. There were a few minutes in the early 4th where he briefly got things humming with some passing to a variey of Kings, including back to back inside assists to Landry and Acy I think, but he hurt his, and our, cause by amazingly missing 4 FTs in a row there to finish 1-5 on the night. And that's our best FT shooter. Anyway, IT had some moments, and some non-moments. He didn't particularly overgun, but he didn't particular floor general it up. It was a meh game for him, but hopefully at least not a controversial one. --Brick
Loch%20lLomond%201.jpg

Loch Lomond -- This one has islands instead of monsters.

placeholder...
 
Last edited:
Bench

Stats: 15min 5pts (2-2, 1-1, 0-0) 5reb 1ast 0stl 0blk 1TO
Acy ( C+ ) -- A decent game, but like literately every member of this squad he's not a strong defender. It's not a issue of effort, which at least puts him in a different category then most of his teammates. Hit another three during his first stretch. I know the mid range jumper has lost a lot of value in this era of advanced stats. Still can't help but think he'd be better served by focusing on that area of the floor to spot up. His other basket came on a nice little cut to the basket with the defense focused on the ball handler and Cousins down low. On a night when we got are ass kicked on the boards by a small Cavs teams Acy deserves credit for doing a respectable job on the glass. Decent role player type effort a long with some questionable defense puts this one in the C range for me.--Henkel
KACHURA-2.jpg

Shangrila Lake -- Lovely little Himalyan Lake up north of Jammu and Kashmir, its naturally heart shaped, but quite small, not much bigger than the photo above. And unfortunately not only will the various local insurgents probably kill you on the way there, but its famous enough regionally that much of the shoreline has been encroached upon by various garish little buildings.


Stats: 23min 9pts (3-6, 2-5, 1-2) 0reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
McLemore ( D+ ) -- Let’s get the good news out of the way first. Ben hit half of his shots. Yay! He also had 2 assists and zero turn-overs. That’s right, no turn-overs while dribbling the ball and losing it so…double Yay! He hit 2 of his 5 3pt shots and the good news is that all of his shots were good open shots set up by teammates. His last made shot was actually a great catch-and-drive and finish through two players with the one-hand slam. That’s the shot he’s continually missed, but this time he kept his handle and finished with authority. So…triple Yay! And now the bad news…. The majority of my notes are about Waiters blowing by him time, after time, after time, after time. It’s as if Waiters wasn’t even being guarded. Sometimes a screen was set and Waiters got into the lane and other times there was no screen and Waiters got into the lane. Waiters took some pretty bad shots, which is why he was only 7-17, but Waiters got into the lane whenever he felt like it. But what really hurt is that Waiters had 8 assists and 1 turn-over for his best Assist/TO ratio of the year and a season high in in Assists. To give some perspective, so far this year Waiters has had 1 other 8 assist games, and 4 six assist games. So prior to tonight his top 5 assist games were 8, 6, 6, 6, & 6. Well, Ben let him get wherever he wanted on the floor, and that usually meant right into the lane, and Waiters used all that space and good floor positioning to have a season great assist night, along with putting up 20 points. Thornton got off easy in this one because he basically only played the 1st and 3rd quarters and so he spent most of his time guarding Jack. Ben spent pretty much all of his time attempting to guard Waiters and failing miserably at it. So a pretty decent offensive game with the 50% shooting, 2 assists, and 0 turn-overs. But he got killed on the other end, and the fact that he also didn’t get any rebounds (we had 0 rebounds combined for our SGs tonight.) doesn’t help. --Uncia
Peyto-Lake-in-Canada_Idyllic-scenery_4736.jpg

Peyto Lake -- in the Canadian Rockies a couple hundred miles north of Idaho, this pretty pond really is that color blue, apparently from the sediment washing into its waters from those mountains.

Stats: 27min 10pts (4-10, 0-2, 2-2) 3reb 2ast 1stl 1blk 1TO
Williams ( ) -- --Baja

Stats: 8min 0pts (0-3, 0-1, 0-0) 0reb 2ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Fredette ( D+ ) -- an ineffective first half stint meant that we would again see IT running the entire second half. Missed a three coming of a screen, then nearly got stripped next time down. More importantly the ball was staying on the perimeter with him a PG and the offense was struggling without any goto guys. Tried one drive attempting to set up Acy for a dunk, but the Cavs sniffed it out and formed an effective wall down the side of the lane to cut off the passing lane. Finsihed his evening by missing another long jumper, and adding a wild drive down the left side with no hope. He stayed on the ground after that one, and I think he knew that was it. --Brick
105986830_como_293194b.jpg

Lake Como -- famous lake Como, again up in the Alps on the Italian/Swizz border, has been a retreat for the rich and famous since Roman times. If you ever visit, stop on in and say hello to George Clooney and pals. Like the Loch's in Scotland its long, narrow, and very deep (1300 feet) -- in fact its the deepest lake in Europe outside of Norway.

Stats: 8min 0pts (0-0, 0-0, 0-0) 2reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Gray ( INC ) -- I forget who mentioned it around here but he really does play small for such a big guy. Nothing really worth noting from his minutes. The bench did play decently during his stint at least. --Henkel
Lake-Geneva.jpg

Lake Geneva -- half in France, half in Switzerland, its the largest and most famous of the Alpine lakes.

Stats: 3min 2pts (1-1, 0-0, 0-0) 1reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
McCallum ( INC ) -- in for the final play of the first half on defense. Got the last 2 1/2 min of garbagetime too, and got the junk layup just before the buzzer for his only score. --Brick

Stats: 7min 6pts (2-2, 0-0, 2-2) 1reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Landry ( INC ) -- The 6.5 Million Dollar Man's only contribution in the first half was to pick up IT when he was fouled down by the Kings bench. Shoot, I could do that for $3.25M, no problem! Carl finally got into the game in the fourth quarter, and had a decent outing. He found himself open on the right block twice in short succession, dunking the first and, oddly, hesitating on the second resulting in two made free throws. He only got four minutes in his first stint, but did get another three minutes in garbagetime, hitting a post jumper, and that was his night. He did all right on help defense, cutting off two drives successfully and fouling Waiters on a third to force FTs. But even though he had the best +/- on the team for the night (+9), he really didn't contribute enough to earn a grade. --Capt.

Stats: 3min 5pts (2-3, 1-2, 0-0) 0reb 0ast 0stl 0blk 0TO
Outlaw ( ) -- --Baja







placeholder...
 
Last edited:
....why do all these rookies/unproven players always blow up against the kings? I remember it was Waiters last year... Sullinger earlier this year...now Bennett. I know I've missed a few more players...but that's pretty ridiculous. The team doesn't feel right. No one is making their shots other than IT. Everytime we set up a good offensive play, it leads onto a horrible defensive play on the other side. It's getting terrible to watch...
 
"My concern now is that I think we have some guys feeling sorry for themselves and ahh, that's pathetic. Be a pro. Do your job." - M. Malone.

ROTFLMAO! That was the most entertaining thing of this whole game. Malone, I feel ya, man. Hang in there. Maybe one of these days you'll have grownups to coach.
 
  • Like
Reactions: lwc
"My concern now is that I think we have some guys feeling sorry for themselves and ahh, that's pathetic. Be a pro. Do your job." - M. Malone.

ROTFLMAO! That was the most entertaining thing of this whole game. Malone, I feel ya, man. Hang in there. Maybe one of these days you'll have grownups to coach.
When I read that I wondered if it was a veiled shot at Cuz and the all star snub
 
When I read that I wondered if it was a veiled shot at Cuz and the all star snub

I don't think it was all that veiled. LOL. I think it's obvious that Cousins is on the list; maybe he's the only one on the list. This self-mourning by Cousins started immediately after the snub.
 
"My concern now is that I think we have some guys feeling sorry for themselves and ahh, that's pathetic. Be a pro. Do your job." - M. Malone.

It used to be we only had to endlessly worry about that "pathetic" virus infecting JT. Now, apparently fast spreading contagion has grip on some other "pathetic" Kings.
 
I don't think the players even deserve grades. Give them all DNP-PD. I'd apologize for not watching but I was totally wrapped up in a curling match from last night. Tomorrow I may watch it again. This team has become nearly unwatchable...
 
Anybody watching Blazers - Thunder on NBA TV? I know a lot of us were really high on CJ McCollum before the draft, watching him right now, man i wish he was on this team
 
Why would they even ask that question to DeMarcus?

I don't see why not. If anything it kinda shows you that Cousins is respected as a big man. It's not uncommon to ask players around the league what they think of young players, and more often than not those veterans being asked find something encouraging and positive to say. Not a very classy response from Cousins IMO. And that's one of the biggest "issues" with Cousins - he just doesn't do himself any favors in playing the politics game. If he ever wants to represent the USA on an international level these are the sort of things he needs to improve on. Athletes are as much PR figures as they are simply athletes.

If they asked DWade or Lebron about McLemore do you think they'd say Ben who? They'd give some answer like "He's a great athlete and is going to be a star in this league, he just has to keep working hard" or something to that effect. Even though everything about McLemore's play thus far really hasn't been impressive at all.
 
I don't see why not. If anything it kinda shows you that Cousins is respected as a big man. It's not uncommon to ask players around the league what they think of young players, and more often than not those veterans being asked find something encouraging and positive to say. Not a very classy response from Cousins IMO. And that's one of the biggest "issues" with Cousins - he just doesn't do himself any favors in playing the politics game. If he ever wants to represent the USA on an international level these are the sort of things he needs to improve on. Athletes are as much PR figures as they are simply athletes.

Oh, come on. They asked Demarcus because he had a crap game and the guy playing against him had his first double-double. It had absolutely nothing to do with respect. They were hoping for exactly what they got - some grumpy arse snide comment from DMC right after another embarrassing loss by the Kings.
 
I can only say that when you hit rock bottom, there's a certain comfort in knowing that the only way to go is up. I suspect we'll stay down here for awhile, while all the things we do/don't know about play out, but we can't get much worse so there's value in that.
 
Oh, come on. They asked Demarcus because he had a crap game and the guy playing against him had his first double-double. It had absolutely nothing to do with respect. They were hoping for exactly what they got - some grumpy arse snide comment from DMC right after another embarrassing loss by the Kings.

Well if that's the view you want to take then fine. Cousins wasn't even guarding Bennett for the most part. When Cousins/ Evans were rookies our reporters asked lots of other NBA players on their views on them.

Regardless of what the reporters' intentions were, Cousins didn't give a good answer.
 
Fs for everybody. IT gets a lot of hate, but DMC needs to pull his head out of his ***.

He has definitely lost focus since the Anthony Davis All-Star announcement (not saying it's connected, but yea), but the offense has completely gone away from going to him in the post. He should have been getting fed in the post all night against this Cavs front line....
 
I can only say that when you hit rock bottom, there's a certain comfort in knowing that the only way to go is up. I suspect we'll stay down here for awhile, while all the things we do/don't know about play out, but we can't get much worse so there's value in that.

Just a couple of thoughts in response:

1. Hey, at least we're familiar with rock bottom. We've been here before so we know where the best spots to eat are, etc.

2. Don't ever, ever, ever challenge "worse"...
 
Back
Top