Grade the Kings draft
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I have no horse in this race. Time will tell if the front office were right or wrong.
However, do you honestly think that a pre-draft workouts are the key criteria for a team drafting a player? I think you will find that teams are a lot more professional than that and look at the whole "body of work" as opposed to how the player's workout went. Everyone can have a bad day, that much is certain. Pre-draft workout is only a little part of the overall scouring and recruiting process and most of it is to do with getting to know the kid than it is about running them to complete a few drills.
So it is a little be far reached to rule out Charlotte as a possible team that would have drafted him just because he didn't have a good workout for them. It means very little in the scheme of things. Teams draft players without ever having worked them out all the time. Do you think the Kings worked out Marinkovic?
However, do you honestly think that a pre-draft workouts are the key criteria for a team drafting a player? I think you will find that teams are a lot more professional than that and look at the whole "body of work" as opposed to how the player's workout went. Everyone can have a bad day, that much is certain. Pre-draft workout is only a little part of the overall scouring and recruiting process and most of it is to do with getting to know the kid than it is about running them to complete a few drills.
So it is a little be far reached to rule out Charlotte as a possible team that would have drafted him just because he didn't have a good workout for them. It means very little in the scheme of things. Teams draft players without ever having worked them out all the time. Do you think the Kings worked out Marinkovic?
And in second round, a lot of teams don't even dig that deep in terms of their scouting unless someone really catches their eye during the year.
Facts are that James worked out for 11 teams. There were 21 teams that had at least one pick in the 2nd round so he worked out for 11 of those 21 teams (more than half). You ruled out all but 4 of those teams because the workout didn't go well which is rather selective. You are basically implying that those teams made their decision not to draft him because he didn't kill it in their workouts without absolutely ANY evidence to support this claim.
I am merely saying that teams do not make their decisions on whether not to draft someone based on their private workouts. There is a whole year of scouting (and in some cases more than that) that goes into whether the player is worth picking or not. Its not done at the back of a pre-draft workout with the team. To suggest that it does is quite frankly being ignorant.
Facts are that James worked out for 11 teams. There were 21 teams that had at least one pick in the 2nd round so he worked out for 11 of those 21 teams (more than half). You ruled out all but 4 of those teams because the workout didn't go well which is rather selective. You are basically implying that those teams made their decision not to draft him because he didn't kill it in their workouts without absolutely ANY evidence to support this claim.
I am merely saying that teams do not make their decisions on whether not to draft someone based on their private workouts. There is a whole year of scouting (and in some cases more than that) that goes into whether the player is worth picking or not. Its not done at the back of a pre-draft workout with the team. To suggest that it does is quite frankly being ignorant.
Their were 14 other teams who had a draft pick after the Kings. Whether those 14 were teams that worked out James, I can’t say for sure nor can you.
What I do know is he worked out for 1 (Charlotte) via the web and was 1 of 2 players replaced in the afternoon session and I know for a fact he did not work out for another because I know a person who was responsible for working all the players out. So if those 12 out of 28 teams were the part of the remaining teams we don’t know.
“I am merely saying that teams do not make their decisions on whether not to draft someone based on their private workouts.” I don’t think I ever said they based their decision solely but few American 2nd round picks are drafted who don’t work out.
What I do know is he worked out for 1 (Charlotte) via the web and was 1 of 2 players replaced in the afternoon session and I know for a fact he did not work out for another because I know a person who was responsible for working all the players out. So if those 12 out of 28 teams were the part of the remaining teams we don’t know.
“I am merely saying that teams do not make their decisions on whether not to draft someone based on their private workouts.” I don’t think I ever said they based their decision solely but few American 2nd round picks are drafted who don’t work out.
Well, we also know from James' interviews following the draft that he thought he would get drafted in the second round, and there were three teams that were after him. He doesn't say who those teams were, or whether they were picking before or after the Kings, but we can say this - there were three teams who picked between our #40 and our #47 picks who ended up trading out of that pick after we made our selection. Philly traded out of the #42, Miami traded out of the #44, and the Magic traded out of the #46. It is not out of the realm of possibility that one of those teams was targeting James and would have grabbed him before our #47.