Rockmeister
All-Star
By the looks of the average grade so far, it doesn't look very promising.
Grade the Kings Draft
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Arena Skeptic
Bench
My reasoning (and I didn't vote) is that when the players you really, really want aren't there, and when you're basically weak at every position, you take the best player available.
This is where, I think, Petrie did the wrong thing. Not that Hawes will be a bad player, but you just watch, there will be players who will work out better than Hawes drafted in the 11-20 range. It's bound to happen.
Hawes' upper-body isn't strong enough, and his rebounding is really bad. Really bad. Yes, that can improve, and since he's only 19, it just might. But has that theory worked out for Mike Dunleavy?
For a 7'1" player in the Pac 10, Hawes didn't rebound, defend or block shots anywhere near well enough. That can improve, but I think players like Duncan, KG, Durant, Oden, Biedrins, Yao, et al, will just get around him.
(The worst that could happen is that they drafted Todd Fuller when Kobe Bryant was still on the board.)
Total aside, and not the best place to say this: Chris Mullin and his Warriors had a GREAT night last night. That was pretty close to history-making. Why couldn't the Kings have done something similar?
This is where, I think, Petrie did the wrong thing. Not that Hawes will be a bad player, but you just watch, there will be players who will work out better than Hawes drafted in the 11-20 range. It's bound to happen.
Hawes' upper-body isn't strong enough, and his rebounding is really bad. Really bad. Yes, that can improve, and since he's only 19, it just might. But has that theory worked out for Mike Dunleavy?
For a 7'1" player in the Pac 10, Hawes didn't rebound, defend or block shots anywhere near well enough. That can improve, but I think players like Duncan, KG, Durant, Oden, Biedrins, Yao, et al, will just get around him.
(The worst that could happen is that they drafted Todd Fuller when Kobe Bryant was still on the board.)
Total aside, and not the best place to say this: Chris Mullin and his Warriors had a GREAT night last night. That was pretty close to history-making. Why couldn't the Kings have done something similar?
Rookie
Starter
B-GOOD
Reaosn: I'm not sure how anyone can give it a D or lower. We needed a big man and we went out and got one. Pieces are being filled. As an NBA player he's not the top but as for someone big and available at the 10th, we got someone decent.
I didn't watch the draft but if there is a better big man at the 10th pick, who was it? Were there any? Is it even possible to pick anyone that is better in the paint or a Ben Wallace copycat?
If yes my grade would drop depending on the skill differences
Else
Bunch of Fanatics!!!!
Reaosn: I'm not sure how anyone can give it a D or lower. We needed a big man and we went out and got one. Pieces are being filled. As an NBA player he's not the top but as for someone big and available at the 10th, we got someone decent.
I didn't watch the draft but if there is a better big man at the 10th pick, who was it? Were there any? Is it even possible to pick anyone that is better in the paint or a Ben Wallace copycat?
If yes my grade would drop depending on the skill differences
Else
Bunch of Fanatics!!!!
Rookie
Starter
F...
Reason: No trades, didn't fill a team need, didn't do much of anything except draft another unathletic guy that can't rebound. yay!
What pieces were you thinking of? I thought we wanted a big man with some kind of post game. Wasn't that the majority consensus or am I wrong?
Yeah we wanted someone with super D as well but was there any?
Gary
All-Star
We needed a big man.. YES.. True.. BUT the Kings most glaring needs were front court defense, rebounding, athleticism, blocked shots, and someone to play the PF position. We didn't address any of those needs but we did get a big man. It just doesn't make sense why we picked the player we did.
Jason Smith at #20 would have been a better pick for the Kings. The Kings could have traded a #10 for a #15 and a second rounder. I would have been happy with this if we filled a need. Sean Williams, and Jason Smith.. We could have traded the #10 for those two players imo.
Vlade4GM
All-Star
We're rebuilding out team, we don't have specific needs other than not a SG.
nbrans
All-Star
The Jazz just acquired Kyryolo Fesenko from Philly for Herbert Hill and cash. http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/0-25-140/Jazzy-Kyrylo-Fesenko.html
I voted "D," but is there any way I could change it to an F?
I voted "D," but is there any way I could change it to an F?
Vlade4GM
All-Star
Gay. I thought Petrie liked him.
kupman
Starter
F...
Reason: No trades, didn't fill a team need, didn't do much of anything except draft another unathletic guy that can't rebound. yay!
..........and not only all of that, they also failed to draft Nick Fazekas.
allrightythen
Starter
I don't like grading drafts the day of or the day after simply cause there's nothing to grade. We haven't seen the kid play and he's only 19, he'll probably need some time to develop. I say let him play a bit before we start throwing grades at him. What would the grade have been the day after we drafted Pervis Ellison?
That said I voted C-Average simply because I wasn't devastated about the pick, but I wasn't elated either. We picked him around where he was slotted by most to go so I don't think we reached which can happen sometimes when trying to draft for need.
That said I voted C-Average simply because I wasn't devastated about the pick, but I wasn't elated either. We picked him around where he was slotted by most to go so I don't think we reached which can happen sometimes when trying to draft for need.
living legend
G-League
I gave the draft a 'D'. According to today's Bee article, Petrie said that he attempted to make moves to trade up 4-9 ,but none of the deals worked out.
It was good to hear that at least he tried to get in position to get either Yi or B. Wright.
Unfortunately, the reality is that we still drafted Hawes when I still thought there were better players still available.
It was good to hear that at least he tried to get in position to get either Yi or B. Wright.
Unfortunately, the reality is that we still drafted Hawes when I still thought there were better players still available.
SacTownKing4Life
G-League
Al Thorton, Julian Wright were passed on for this guy. I just don't understand it. A good shooter, and passer, not great on boards or blocking... don't we have this guy already? 
Anyways, at least next year we'll have a killer chance for OJ Mayo.
Anyways, at least next year we'll have a killer chance for OJ Mayo.
kingzzzfan4ever
G-League
Petrie did the best he could! I think Hawes will be a good addition to the roster. Hey at least he is 7'0" and is known to have a variety of post moves and can contribute to the offense.
We dont have a true point guard backup, and Acie Law IV was on the board.
He didnt do the best he could...dumb pick. We have Justin Williams as backup C.
allrightythen
Starter
I wouldn't go that far. Justin played there last year but I think he's a little undersized to be a real center. He's the type of player we need (shot-blocking, rebounding, hustle, etc..) but he's in a PFs body. Not a true center.
Yet we draft a slow unathletic center that can't rebound...I'd rather have a guy with a motor than a guy who is just simply a warm body whose name is simply listed third on a box score.
Alonzo Mourning was undersized to be a center. Ben Wallace too. Justin showed that with minutes, he could do the job.
allrightythen
Starter
I think the 2 together would balance eachother quite nicely assuming they both develop enough. Still a bit early to say either one of them is going to be a solid player.
Can't disagree with you about the guys you mentioned, but the list of guys who didn't cut it because they were undersized is at least as long. Just sayin I think Justin has a much better chance as a PF than a Center.
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