Grade our draft

[ilanv]

hello sacrameno fans
my name is ilan vissel and i am from isreal
first: i want to thank sacramento for taking omri to your team
you have no idea how mach we are all happy in isreal for the first time that an isreal player will play in the nba.
second :i dont know who is evens and i am also sorry that riki was not selected to you team.
third: omri is a very good player, tough very athlethick, he is not afraid of no one. have agood offence moovs and good defance.
4:i have read that sacramento couch ask him what the number of the shirt he wants so i think that he will play this year in sacramento and not move him to europe.what do you think?

 

[BritishColumbia]

#23: Cool. We picked a poor man's Andreas Nocioni.

Actually, I think that Omri has more NBA potential because he is more athletic. Obviously, Nocioni was a super star in Europe and my favorite player back then and Casspi is just a solid player with a bright future. But they have a lot of things in common - Euro basketball base, warriors (Noc is better in that department though), hard workers, passionate players.

Yes, Israeli does not have Andreas skill set but he can improve his shooting and some other basketball stuff. However, his athleticism makes him even a more promising prospect in NBA. In Euro basketball, Andreas will always be better though.

 

[Bricklayer]

4:i have read that sacramento couch ask him what the number of the shirt he wants so i think that he will play this year in sacramento and not move him to europe.what do you think?

We could definitely use the help right now, and we have open roster spots, so as long as he is willing to come over I would think we'd want him to come over as soon as possible.

 

[Aenadin]

hello sacrameno fans
my name is ilan vissel and i am from isreal
first: i want to thank sacramento for taking omri to your team
you have no idea how mach we are all happy in isreal for the first time that an isreal player will play in the nba.
second :i dont know who is evens and i am also sorry that riki was not selected to you team.
third: omri is a very good player, tough very athlethick, he is not afraid of no one. have agood offence moovs and good defance.
4:i have read that sacramento couch ask him what the number of the shirt he wants so i think that he will play this year in sacramento and not move him to europe.what do you think?

welcome to the kingsfans... im pretty sure that omri will make his country proud by performing well in the nba.. and true enough he will don the purple and black with pride.. i hope a lot of people from israel would watch the kings we need to revive the kingdom...

ok going back

sorry to every one if i kind of exploded after realizing we skipped on rubio for evans.. im sorry if i questioned petrie and in anger almost to the point asked for his head. im just as passionate as any other kings fan out there .. i just hope that we all support who ever petrie and the organization trusts to don the purple and become kings

(though im still hoping for rubio lol)

 

[DoDiGaG0]

F

not too bad, we obviously got better but we could of gotten MUCH better w/ the position we had

 

[swisshh]

i wasnt comparing Rubio vs evans athletically... i was asking how are his athletic abilities?

does he have an explosive first step? i worry about his court vision though but i trust petrie... saw a few clips of him he has a tendency to break down his man

Rubio can look slow when he plays, but you also realize the game looks slowed down to him. Some guys are quick, fly into the lane and then get lost once they get there. Rubio gets somewhere, and knows that a moment later he'll have the pass/shot he needs. You don't need to be as quick when you anticipate the game as well as he does.

 

[Asf]

Hello Kings fans!
I'm from Israel as well - now that Omri is picked expect to have a few million new fans from Israel.
All I can say about Omri is that he's a great player. He's tough, determined, athletic, likes to run, go all the way to the rim and finish with dunks, has decent shooting. When he played for Maccabi he was one of the only players that played well even when the team had a bad game , even when the team was down by 20+ points didn't matter to him- he'll give each and every game everything he's got.

Go Kings!

 

[ParniValjak]

point guards: beno, sergio,tyreke

one of them has to go!

Why?!

Ideally you want 3 PGs on your roster. Evans can play a bit of 2 so can Beno in some cases (though rarely)

I think we now at least have some options at PG. Last season it was Beno and a very old Bobby Jackson. Now we have 3 options that bring different strengths which means flexibility.

Ideally I would still want to move Beno for an expiring to get away from that contract but I would also like to have 3 PGs on our roster.

 

[FromIsrael]

i dont get it, how the kings Preferred Evans on Rubio..

 

[Aenadin]

i dont get it, how the kings Preferred Evans on Rubio..

it has to do with him having a buy out problem.. it can be resolved but it would cost him missing summer league, missing training camp.. which would hurt the team if he was the starting point...

i would understand if petrie drafted him and shelved him in europe for at least a year having beno and ser-rod play point (i shudder at the thought of beno starting again)

but management and kingsfans are getting restless they want to start winning again... evans is nba ready, and is a quick solution... imo rubio if he lives up to his hype will be the long term solution...

but whats done is done..

3 point guards... ok one will be the starter the other will be the third string and the other bench...

id rather get rid of beno packaged with some one for some one who was drafted this year mid 20s or something. but we know that benos performance last year killed his stock totally

 

[mac]

i dont get it, how the kings Preferred Evans on Rubio..

They felt Evans had a more complete game and that he was a talent they couldn't pass on.

 

[ParniValjak]

it has to do with him having a buy out problem.. it can be resolved but it would cost him missing summer league, missing training camp.. which would hurt the team if he was the starting point...

i would understand if petrie drafted him and shelved him in europe for at least a year having beno and ser-rod play point (i shudder at the thought of beno starting again)

but management and kingsfans are getting restless they want to start winning again... evans is nba ready, and is a quick solution... imo rubio if he lives up to his hype will be the long term solution...

but whats done is done..

3 point guards... ok one will be the starter the other will be the third string and the other bench...

id rather get rid of beno packaged with some one for some one who was drafted this year mid 20s or something. but we know that benos performance last year killed his stock totally

It had nothing to do with the buyout. They saw him as the best player available. They even said if they had 2nd pick in the draft they would have picked Evans because they felt he was the best player available.

 

[DoDiGaG0]

i dont get it, how the kings Preferred Evans on Rubio..

we don't understand this either...

 

[jdbraver]

we don't understand this either...

It's simple,Evan is the better player right now and probably in the future. And quite frankly I do not get the well Rubio will be better in 3 years. Well, maybe if Evan doesn't progress. I don't know why people assume Evans won't get better at the same rate or better.

 

[Entity]

It's simple,Evan is the better player right now and probably in the future. And quite frankly I do not get the well Rubio will be better in 3 years. Well, maybe if Evan doesn't progress. I don't know why people assume Evans won't get better at the same rate or better.

I guess its from the same thinking that what Jason Thompson and Spencer did last year will be as good as they get? Same was said about Martin after his first season. Its called simple mindedness.

 

[Jerryaki]

It's simple,Evan is the better player right now and probably in the future. And quite frankly I do not get the well Rubio will be better in 3 years. Well, maybe if Evan doesn't progress. I don't know why people assume Evans won't get better at the same rate or better.

because different players have different ceilings.

 

[Warhawk]

Woot go brockman. Beat up KT in practice, show him who's boss

Beat them all up and get them to play the same way.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

F

not too bad, we obviously got better but we could of gotten MUCH better w/ the position we had

Ah, the internet! The only place where "not too bad" gets an F.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

I decided to vote "B", but it's probably a B+. Like a lot of people here, I had my heart set on Rubio. From all accounts, our front office had their heart set on Evans, and not only do they have a great track record so far, but the scouting work was clearly exhaustive this time around. I do believe that Evans will be a good, possibly great player in the league, but I do have questions about whether he is a "true" PG. I figure he'll see a lot of minutes next year (30+), and be the PG on the floor for about half of them, with the remainder of the PG duties shared between Beno and Sergio.

Casspi was a player I had my eye on for several months, and had better size than I expected at the combine. There was very little buzz about him coming out of our media, and after Portland leapfrogged us (again!) I thought he might not last to our pick. I'm happy with him, and I hope he gets some decent playing time, but the SF is a bit impacted with Noc, Garcia, and Greene all presumably in front of him.

Brockman was a surprise, but not an Eyenga-level surprise. Dude can rebound, and that usually translates. I figure he'll probably make the roster, but unless we completely whiff in free agency, he'll only get garbage-time minutes. That was probably true for anybody available at the slot. It's true that we could have had Blair had we not traded with Portland, but maybe the FO wasn't that high on Blair, who will also be asking for bigger $$. (Brockman is probably ecstatic just to be selected and will be happy to take the minimum until the ride stops and the attendant tells him to get off.)

Keep in mind that along with Brockman we did get Sergio Rodriguez at $1.6M for one year. I'm not sure if he'll be great, but I think he'll be at least adequate as a backup and that he never really got his fair shake in Portland.

So we got four players with three draft picks, all of whom are likely to make the team, two of whom have a chance to be solid rotation players, and one could be a star. Hard to argue with that, for me.

 

[allrightythen]

I voted B because I like the picks mostly, but I don't think grades mean much the day after the draft. Should probably wait a few years until we see what these guys can do.

 

[hrdboild]

After giving it some time to settle in, I went with a B on this one. I thought it was the best Kings draft in awhile but I suppose a lot of that is because of where our picks were. It's still disappointing that Petrie isn't able to work out any trades or buy any extra picks. Oklahoma City and Portland continue to make the rest of the league look like fools in that regard. But regardless, I like the players we did pick...

Evans was a defense pick. If he sticks at PG he's going to be the most physically dominant player at his position in the league. On both ends. That's what I've been asking for out of this team for a long time. And with the choice between Rubio and Evans, either of which could be very good, I'm pleasantly surprised they went with size and toughness over finesse for once.

At 23, I don't know much about Casspi, but he looks like he's very skilled for a 20 year old SF and everyone says he has a mean streak. Mullens looked like good value at that pick and I liked Sam Young, but Casspi fits a need for the team. Mullens was pretty risky anyway in the same way that Holiday and Jennings were, and Young is in the Garcia mold of being older than everyone else and not having much room to grow as a player. It's an added bonus that the team just won a lot more international fans as well.

I'm not thrilled about the Rodriguez trade, but getting Brockman and Rodriguez plus cash for a pick seems like a pretty good value. I don't think I would ever trade with Portland on draft day. They have a knack for getting exactly who they want every year and it's really becoming annoying. Rodriguez can play some minutes at PG, and maybe the thinking is that he'll make up in some small way for passing on the other flashy Spaniard PG, but he has no defense whatsoever.

Brockman will probably continue to rebound well in limited minutes, but that's likely all he'll do. Actually I think that's about all we can expect from Blair too, so getting Brockman and Rodriguez works out better for us I think. The Washington connection adds a little more interest in this pick, but I don't expect Brockman to be on the team in two years anyway so it's mostly a non issue. Maybe bringing Hawes' favorite workout partner into the fold gets him to be a little more aggresive on the boards next year though.

 

[sidney]

B+ for Tyreke because he will be a good player
D- for passing on Rubio

=

C grade

 

[fnordius]

Some people gave Fs because we didn't fill any positions we needed. I made it a D, because we picked good players while not filling any positions we needed. Well, other than Brockman. I think that was Geoff throwing away the second rounder, as he usually does, which is a pity with Calathes, Mills, and Nivins all available.

 

[jdbraver]

because different players have different ceilings.

I'm not sure how you can judge a 19 y/o ceiling.

 

[TaxMan]

F

not too bad, we obviously got better but we could of gotten MUCH better w/ the position we had

That reasoning doesn't really sound like an F, but whatever...

 

[TaxMan]

I really don't know this Evans kid (I barely follow NCAA), but I dunked like that 5 years ago, at age 33 and a "michelin tire" around my midriff, at a block party. I had about 6 beers in me and flip flops on my feet. I am 6'3'' bare footed. I didn't fall down though.

wow.

 

[Jerryaki]

I'm not sure how you can judge a 19 y/o ceiling.

easily; like most responses on this board, via conjecture and personal bias.

i personally think rubio's ceiling is higher because his court vision and bball IQ is already there; he may or may not develop the athleticism and offensive skills to reach that ceiling.

evans already has the athleticism and some of the offensive skills to play right away, and if he develops an elite level of court vision and bball IQ, then his ceiling will be pretty high too.

i just don't think court vision is something you "develop" and that's why i think his ceiling is lower.

 

[vikinginferno]

easily; like most responses on this board, via conjecture and personal bias.

i personally think rubio's ceiling is higher because his court vision and bball IQ is already there; he may or may not develop the athleticism and offensive skills to reach that ceiling.

evans already has the athleticism and some of the offensive skills to play right away, and if he develops an elite level of court vision and bball IQ, then his ceiling will be pretty high too.

i just don't think court vision is something you "develop" and that's why i think his ceiling is lower.

You also don't develop athleticism...

 

[kingsfan101]

It's still disappointing that Petrie isn't able to work out any trades or buy any extra picks.

This is only possible if the owners sign off on it. Can be some serious cash (think Knicks paid the Lakers $3M for 30th pick in the draft).

Unless there is some player you really like, it's tough to dole out that kind of cash for small market teams, particularly those coming off 17 wins season.

 

[hrdboild]

This is only possible if the owners sign off on it. Can be some serious cash (think Knicks paid the Lakers $3M for 30th pick in the draft).

Unless there is some player you really like, it's tough to dole out that kind of cash for small market teams, particularly those coming off 17 wins season.

Yeah, I understand why it didn't happen. Portland has the richest owner in the NBA so they get to play Yankees every year in the draft. But the Maloofs keep talking about how winning will bring the fans back (which is true) and you don't win without players. $3 million is silly money for a late late pick in this draft, but I think a lot of guys in the late first round would have looked good on our roster and not all of them would have cost that much. We had the 31 pick and the 23 pick. One of those, or both of those, plus some extra cash might have gotten us a few spots higher. I don't understand why we have to wait and see who the other teams don't draft and settle for that every year while Oklahoma City will pay a little extra money to get the guy they really wanted. It's probably even saving you money in the long-run because you wouldn't have to plug holes with free agency (where we always overpay).