[Game] Game 16: Sacramento Kings @ San Antonio Spurs. 11/28/14 5PM PST, 8PM EST
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I did not say anything about me and you know that. Like some comments in this thread my comments were about the coach and not directed on you or me. At the end of the day, we're ALL JUST FANS trying to voice our dismay.
I know you have powers in this board. Do not start something juvenile and silly that will disrespect yourself. We are too old for that ***t.
I know you have powers in this board. Do not start something juvenile and silly that will disrespect yourself. We are too old for that ***t.
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Seems to be the case. I think Malone is damn good and although I'd like to see Ray in more, Ray also hasn't stepped it up when getting early shots in the rotation...has had some good moments and just nothing moments.
Ryan Hollins has averaged 3 pts and 2 Rebs for his 9 year career. That's 9 years. That might have been a career game for him last night. There is a reason he doesn't play much.
Ryan Hollins has averaged 3 pts and 2 Rebs for his 9 year career. That's 9 years. That might have been a career game for him last night. There is a reason he doesn't play much.
I might buy that except that, according to Kayte, Malone has said on the record that McCallum is his best perimeter defender. I have difficulty grasping why a defensive coach would leave his best perimeter defender on the bench in a game where we're getting torched from outside.
It wasn't. But, when you factor in the rebounds, it's still probably in his Top 5.
It wasn't. But, when you factor in the rebounds, it's still probably in his Top 5.
Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see Ray...I've been saying since last year that he deserves time based on his defense alone. He's physical and makes the opposing guards work.....but there has to be a reason why he doesn't play him more. I'd like to here Malone give his reasons on Sessions/Ray. I don't need to hear any reasons about why Hollins doesn't play. Hollins has length but really isn't that strong of an interior defender or shot blocker......and I get the frustration with Landry playing out of position at the 5 but that probably says a lot about Hollins.
They could use a seasoned Eric Moreland. They need someone who can guard the stretch 4s and they need a steady backup SG and maybe a better backup PG although it seems like Ray could be that guy. Sessions defense is just really bad.
They could use a seasoned Eric Moreland. They need someone who can guard the stretch 4s and they need a steady backup SG and maybe a better backup PG although it seems like Ray could be that guy. Sessions defense is just really bad.
Does Malone get credit for taking the team to an 8 pt loss against what might be the best team in the NBA on its own court? I am surprised we did that well. From minute to minute we can be critical of the coach but when you look at the big picture of the whole game, SOMEBODY did petty darn good.
We can stand in judgment of Malone because we are fans and that's what fans do. It doesn't mean we are correct.
We can stand in judgment of Malone because we are fans and that's what fans do. It doesn't mean we are correct.
I fail to see how one contradicts the other. Hollins isn't a decent backup, but he's as good as we have. We need a significant upgrade at that position, so D'Alessandro should be 'hammered' for not finding a better replacement. At the same time, he's here, and we don't have anybody more qualified, so Malone should be 'hammered' for not playing him. The two circumstances are mutually exclusive.
That's not the argument, and I'm quoting you as I've been one of the posters making the argument. The argument and situation we find ourselves in is that we need a backup center who'll actually backup Cuz, who isn't an undersized 4 like Reggie and Carl.
If Hollins actually was playing and performing as a backup center, there'd be far fewer complaints. But given he wasn't and until yesterday wasn't deemed good enough to even supplant Landry in the backup center role, you're damn right there's been pressure on PDA not having acquired a backup who could fill that role. After Hollins showed he is more of a defensive and inside presence than any backup center we've thrown out there this season, the attention turns to Malone and whatever reason he's had for not playing Hollins.
Can anyone who watched last night give a good reason as to why Hollins had under 20 mins all season while our bench continues to get slaughtered at the rim? I'm all ears.
This really isn't that complicated.
If Hollins actually was playing and performing as a backup center, there'd be far fewer complaints. But given he wasn't and until yesterday wasn't deemed good enough to even supplant Landry in the backup center role, you're damn right there's been pressure on PDA not having acquired a backup who could fill that role. After Hollins showed he is more of a defensive and inside presence than any backup center we've thrown out there this season, the attention turns to Malone and whatever reason he's had for not playing Hollins.
Can anyone who watched last night give a good reason as to why Hollins had under 20 mins all season while our bench continues to get slaughtered at the rim? I'm all ears.
This really isn't that complicated.
Yes, we need a backup center. What I think is amazing is that the other 9 positions are filled either by vets in their prime or inching past it or youngsters who will definitely get better. I am pleased that as far as I am concerned, we have everything but the center, a backup one at that. I don't know who gets credit for that but I suspect it is the same guy who is being critisized for the center vacancy. A lot has happened in the last year and a half which has resulted in almost a total makeover of the team. The makeover has been very good. I think by the beginning of next season, we will have that one position filled. I hope people can wait that long.
There are only 4 sub .500 teams in the west. And I'd bet that OKC doesn't finish under .500.
The kings have already played 15 conference games, which leads the league. Lakers next with 14. Then no one else has more than 11 (houston has 11).
Everyone else 10 or fewer. Memphis is 10-0 against the west. That's impressive, even if it's really 9-1.
Kings are in very good shape assuming they can beat up on the east like everyone else is doing.
The kings have already played 15 conference games, which leads the league. Lakers next with 14. Then no one else has more than 11 (houston has 11).
Everyone else 10 or fewer. Memphis is 10-0 against the west. That's impressive, even if it's really 9-1.
Kings are in very good shape assuming they can beat up on the east like everyone else is doing.
Eh, I gotta push back on this, too. I tend to feel like some posters are getting a little 'Chicken Little' about some of this stuff but, at the same time, I'm not willing to handwave away all concerns, just 'because winning'. This team is improving everyday, and is fun to watch for the first time in forever, but we also have actual problems that need to be addressed. There are real questions which need to be asked, and '9-7' is not an answer.
I won't speak for rainmaker, but my response to that would be that McCallum has shown plenty to warrant more playing time. And he's still not getting it. So, why wouldn't I necessarily figure that Malone's decisions regarding Hollins aren't totally capricious, just as his decisions regarding Sessions appear to be?
Everybody has been wanting a player who can protect the rim. We haven't had one since Dalembert. We do have have one now, in an athletic very mobile and long player in Hollins. He's not a starter, but so what? Lets at least play him in some spot minutes on a semi consistent basis to see what he can do. We got a nice glimpse last night and it sure looked better than any other option we have in that category, which is nobody.
It didn't appear that what he was doing, was pure luck. Lets see more and go from there. We'll never know, if he never gets a chance. People change, players improve in different environments. Example A, is Omri Casspi. Lets explore the possibility that maybe Hollins could help us in a specific area of need
It didn't appear that what he was doing, was pure luck. Lets see more and go from there. We'll never know, if he never gets a chance. People change, players improve in different environments. Example A, is Omri Casspi. Lets explore the possibility that maybe Hollins could help us in a specific area of need
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Sessions is an established vet with a ling track record. No coach is going to play a 2nd year player over a vet after 16 games. It's not just malone who does this. Every fan base complains that they want to see a young player over an established vet. Many posters here wanted Landry gone after last year, but he's proven to be an asset of the bench. Imagine if we had a knee jerk coach who sat players every time they struggled. There would be no consistency.
If sessions continues to stink up the joint, Malone should bench Sessions, but it's only November of a long season.
If sessions continues to stink up the joint, Malone should bench Sessions, but it's only November of a long season.
Except the reasons why people were down on the Landry signing still apply today: we paid a lot of money for a backup PF, when what we needed was a backup center, and/or a rim protector. And we still need those things. Nobody who was down on the Landry signing said he couldn't play.
I reject your 'no coach' premise. Mike Malone owes no loyalty to Ramon Sessions, and I have a hard time believing that he believes that Sessions gives him a better chance to win.
I reject your 'no coach' premise. Mike Malone owes no loyalty to Ramon Sessions, and I have a hard time believing that he believes that Sessions gives him a better chance to win.
