Fox Watch 2025
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ShastaKingsFan
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I am shocked he didn't take the opportunity to take a shot at the Kings org although I can't really tell from the quote if that means good for all or even good for Kings. Would not surprise me the least if they hated each other though.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Tyrese absolutely loved the guy but that might have also been an orphaned bear cub latching onto a stuffed animal sort of situation.
captain bill
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so uhh, yeah.
firing that thought into the ether.
firing that thought into the ether.
Sad thing is, everyone has to bend the knee to Rich Paul, or you don't get his clients.
There was a point where before you could say "well he just does what his clients want" but this seems to be like another curtain being pulled back. Not like Adam Silver would have the balls to decertify him though so I guess we'll just operate under new layers of transparency. I didn't like taking a KLUTCH client back in the deal and I like it even less now.
BTW Did y'all know that KLUTCH was an acronym and the last three letters stand for Truth, Communication and Honesty?
Really? Why would Adam Silver decertify Rich Paul, regardless of whether he has the "balls" to or not? What grounds would he even have?
He's horrible for the game. We disagree and don't need to discuss further.
Man, even if we didn't disagree about whether or not Rich Paul is "horrible for the game," that wouldn't be a good enough reason to decertify an agent, anyway. It's certainly not a reason for Silver to catch a stray.
I don't know if it's tampering/collusion or some other something but he is largely responsible for breaking something.
Hey leave your team when your contract is up, that's FA. But that's not what we're seeing now. And it started with his clients.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
It probably started with Kareem or even Big O but it’s certainly more prevalent now
This seems to imply that it worked fine the way it was.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was represented by Klutch five years before Rich Paul was born? Now that's a visionary!
KingsFanSince85
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It absolutely IS collusion. Especially so when the underlying consequence of not doing as he pleases is not having access to his other clients. He’ll steer or guide them away. Collusion amongst the players with their agent leading the way.
As I’ve said before, if these billionaire owners really had stones, they’d collude in return by not only refusing to adhere to this idiots agenda, but by standing together if/when he strong arms a fellow owner/org with one of his high profile clients. When he attempts to sue the owners on the grounds of collusion, then all his dirty laundry also comes to light. Because he’s doing the same thing.
The owners absolutely would win that pissing match, as they have infinitely more money and power. But the problem is there’s always an owner or two that will break solidarity.
I don't think Kareem wanting to go to the Lakers before Free Agency even existed is the same as everything that has happened post the Decision and everyone being honest with themselves would say the same. Free Agency was the equalizer.
I didn't know Paul George and James Harden were signed with Klutch! I guess Vince Carter signed with Klutch in 2004, back when Rich Paul was still working for CAA.. talk about reading the tea leaves!
captain bill
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sorta off topic but related to Klutch discussion, I find the current CBA weird:
(1) Small market incentives for signing contract extensions with teams that drafted you
(2) hard cap (pretending to be soft cap) that will force more salary-based ditching of talent
(3) ridiculous super max escalators that are flawed (a) based on terrible honorary voting systems and (b) award outsized chunks of cash to top-end talent
I’m really curious to see where the league lands in 5 years with all the stupid money super maxes kicking in against cap rules. I think it will incentivize agents gaming the system but I’m not smart enough to really predict how that will look
(1) Small market incentives for signing contract extensions with teams that drafted you
(2) hard cap (pretending to be soft cap) that will force more salary-based ditching of talent
(3) ridiculous super max escalators that are flawed (a) based on terrible honorary voting systems and (b) award outsized chunks of cash to top-end talent
I’m really curious to see where the league lands in 5 years with all the stupid money super maxes kicking in against cap rules. I think it will incentivize agents gaming the system but I’m not smart enough to really predict how that will look
Fox with the fourth quarter takeover; blew a pair of free throws and then scored 11 in a row to put the game out of reach.
coolhandluke
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Suns allowing Fox to be switched on to Allen was funny to see. Any loss for the Suns is good for the Kings.
That team needs their head coach back in the worst way. There's a decent team there even without Wemby if they would actually play their best 5 players.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Shams is reporting Pop might never come back and is definitely not coming back this season
