Fox AND Haliburton??
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If we're projecting, the variance for Hali is significantly less than the variance for Fox. Hali's game is predicated on what's between the ears. Fox's is predicated on athleticism. Not certain, but certainly not a gigantic jump to say Hali's trending towards a level that is a perennial all star. Just gotta add some bulk to be able to consistently get into the lane and take on bulkier wings/guards.
At Iowa state Tyrese shot 43% from three his freshman year and 42% his sophomore year on higher volume. The big question was whether he'd be able to get his shot off in the NBA. Lonzo Ball shot 41% from three at UCLA but only shot 30% in his rookie season in the NBA. Only now, in year 5 has he reached 40% from outside.
I think that was the big question with Haliburton. Would he have to overhaul his shot mechanics at the next level? The fact that instead he's just improved his ability to get his shot off has been the key.
I think that was the big question with Haliburton. Would he have to overhaul his shot mechanics at the next level? The fact that instead he's just improved his ability to get his shot off has been the key.
I watched every Ucla game that Lonzo played in and caught a handful of Hali’s games during his sophomore year. I think the one thing that differed between them was Lonzo shot the three as an after thought while Hali was asked to carry the scoring burden significantly more in his soph year, so he had to work on getting it off more. I think that difference probably should’ve been an early indicator that Hali’s shooting would translate. Gladly, 11 teams missed the signal.
I think the better question is whether Fox can improve his catch and shoot percentages. Since it's undeniable that the ball should be in Hali's hands. Otherwise, the Kings will continue to have a situation where they're in the bottom 10% in assist percentage (27/30 teams) while having a player (Hali), who is in the top 5% in assists (11/256 players). Yet that player is not even the team's primary ball handler.
Teams assist %: https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/advanced/?sort=AST_PCT&dir=-1
Player YTD assist rankings: https://www.nba.com/stats/leaders/?Season=2021-22&SeasonType=Regular Season&StatCategory=AST
Teams assist %: https://www.nba.com/stats/teams/advanced/?sort=AST_PCT&dir=-1
Player YTD assist rankings: https://www.nba.com/stats/leaders/?Season=2021-22&SeasonType=Regular Season&StatCategory=AST
He's never going to be considered elite at getting his shot off whenever he wants to. My thing is, who cares? He's a great shooter when he's open and when it's the right play... and he makes other players better with his passing ability. He's a total team player.
I cringe to think that the Kings may have almost traded him. Giving away the one legit player that fell to them in the draft
I cringe to think that the Kings may have almost traded him. Giving away the one legit player that fell to them in the draft
And this is the key. When he gets that size and can bump defenders off teams might not be able to shut him down with simple pressure, hard hedges, and double teams. If he can't get that size, he's going to be a player reliant on things that will continue be up and down game to game. One game he won't even get 7 shots off comfortably, another he'll put up big numbers.
Like yours, my guess is that he's capable of putting up those perennial all-star kind of numbers - but not on a team w/another dominant ball-handler. I don't see him ever being a 25-pt scorer. He could be a junior Luka figure - less rebounding and scoring, better team D, more positive leadership style, big assist numbers.
I don't know what "never on an injury report" is supposed to mean, but Fox has absolutely been listed on the Official NBA Injury Report (https://official.nba.com/nba-injury-report-2021-22-season/) for all this time.
While it may indeed be true that Fox is not in fact injured, I tend to trust Ham about as much as other well-known sandwiches, such as "turkey" and "baloney".
While it may indeed be true that Fox is not in fact injured, I tend to trust Ham about as much as other well-known sandwiches, such as "turkey" and "baloney".
I'll speculate. I believe they had told him that he was being discussed in possible trades,... he was very open to the idea and thought he would get traded,... then they announced that he was no longer being shopped, which surprised or disappointed him. Now he's "holding out".
If you look at the timing of everything, it's possible. He wasn't even on the injury report an hour before the Milwaukee game
If you look at the timing of everything, it's possible. He wasn't even on the injury report an hour before the Milwaukee game