Evans: Pick up the pace or slow and steady? (split)

[VF21]

The same can be said about Beno and Sergio. All of our PGs seem to have a real issue with getting our offense set at times.(Of course, the same could be sad about pretty much every other point man in the league.

Gotta call you on that comment. Guys like Rajon Rondo are really quick about getting the ball upcourt and into the hands of the offense... Steve Nash does it very well, among others.

Beno hasn't been doing all that badly, either... Evans paces; he needs to at least trot, and perhaps canter.

 

[Tetsujin]

Gotta call you on that comment. Guys like Rajon Rondo are really quick about getting the ball upcourt and into the hands of the offense... Steve Nash does it very well, among others.

Beno hasn't been doing all that badly, either... Evans paces; he needs to at least trot, and perhaps canter.

Rondo does push the ball but that's because he's not the main option. He's looking more for his stars and since the superstars all are old enough for the early bird special now, they need as much time as they can to get things going. In 'Reke's case he is the star so it's kind of like cutting out the middle man. At least that's how I view it.

Beno was doing pretty good pushing the ball until a couple of games ago at Philly when he suddenly regressed into Oh-No Beno. Since then he's really been a mixed back in my opinion. Sometimes he pushes it to perfection and other times he gets into dribble the clock out and pass the ball to the other team because he's running out of time mode.

The thing is, with Evans's ankle as battered as it is right now, you probably won't be seeing him speed up any time soon.

 

[Asaf]

Brick and Tetsujin - You both sound like what you're saying is that the Kings' favored offensive option would be for Tyreke to take as much time as possible getting the ball across the court, and then play 1 on 5 against the other team. I realize Tyreke is a huge talent, but the fact that he doesn't have an off-the-ball game is not an asset. It's something he needs to work on to improve.

In any case, in a team that thrives on energy, walking the ball up shouldn't be the preferred option, in my opinion. And even if that's his chosen strategy, I can't see why he would stick to that strategy when the other team has a significant lead and the game clock is running out.

 

[Tetsujin]

Brick and Tetsujin - You both sound like what you're saying is that the Kings' favored offensive option would be for Tyreke to take as much time as possible getting the ball across the court, and then play 1 on 5 against the other team. I realize Tyreke is a huge talent, but the fact that he doesn't have an off-the-ball game is not an asset. It's something he needs to work on to improve.

In any case, in a team that thrives on energy, walking the ball up shouldn't be the preferred option, in my opinion. And even if that's his chosen strategy, I can't see why he would stick to that strategy when the other team has a significant lead and the game clock is running out.

Who has said that he would. He was playing most of that 35 point comeback wasn't he? How did his pacing work out for that team?

If you have a lead late in the game, I would rather have a deliberate pace than a frenetic cheetahs on speed approach.

 

[Asaf]

Who has said that he would. He was playing most of that 35 point comeback wasn't he? How did his pacing work out for that team?

If you have a lead late in the game, I would rather have a deliberate pace than a frenetic cheetahs on speed approach.

I was referring to our last game against the mavericks.

 

[Asaf]

Who has said that he would. He was playing most of that 35 point comeback wasn't he? How did his pacing work out for that team?

If you have a lead late in the game, I would rather have a deliberate pace than a frenetic cheetahs on speed approach.

And to address your other point - even when you have a lead, there's no need to go crazy, but if what got you the lead was playing a high-energy, fast-paced game, changing that and dropping your energy could destroy your game completely. This is what happened in the first OT against the lakers.

 

[Tetsujin]

I was referring to our last game against the mavericks.

He was coming off of an injury that game and was terribly terribly out of sync.

The thing is that we're both picking single games from the season and using them to justify our respective stances. If we look at his play over the entire season, its fairly obvious that the pros of him being at pg far outweigh the cons of him playing pg and the pros of him playing sg. The bottom line is that I think, at the end of the day, having 'Reke at Pg will win us more games than having him at SG.

 

[VF21]

Since this is yet another separate issue from the PG/SG discussion, I've split this off into its own little niche.

 

[Asaf]

He was coming off of an injury that game and was terribly terribly out of sync.

The thing is that we're both picking single games from the season and using them to justify our respective stances. If we look at his play over the entire season, its fairly obvious that the pros of him being at pg far outweigh the cons of him playing pg and the pros of him playing sg. The bottom line is that I think, at the end of the day, having 'Reke at Pg will win us more games than having him at SG.

I agree completely that he should be a point guard (assuming that's the position he WANTS to play), and I've already said that in one of the posts in the thread that this one was split from. What I'm saying is even though he has superstar potential, he is not LBJ quite yet. He still has a lot to learn, and controlling the pace of the game in a way that will be beneficial to his team is one of the things he needs to work on.

Like most other people here, I think that Tyreke is an important part of the Kings' future. But it seems to me that some people here are so hungry for their superstar that they forget that he is a rookie, who just like any other rookie still has a LOT of things to work on. He can get to the basket as well as anyone in the league. He is a huge asset on defense. But to realize his potential and become a true superstar he needs to develop a much better jumpshot, develop an off-the-ball game, and learn to run the offense better. These are all things that he can definitely do, and I am assuming he will do them and reach that superstar level, but I don't see the point in overlooking these things just to say "Hey everyone! We have our superstar!" We will get there. We are just not quite there yet.

 

[Larry89]

Slow and Steady wins the race?

 

[Gary]

I still think we need to have a designated PG on the floor with Evans to max his skills. Of course just to bring up the ball, and re-initiate the offense if something falls apart. But other than that the ball needs to be in Evans hands the other 90% of the time. Said this about a month or two ago but you don't need a superstar PG to play with Evans.. Stick a Fisher, or a Andre Miller type PG in there and things will run like clockwork.

Could you imagine though if we drafted Rondo a few years back? Ouch... That still stings. Opposing teams 3pt% would probably be in the low 30's.. Jumpshots in the mid 30's. That would have been awesome.

 

[Tetsujin]

Could you imagine though if we drafted Rondo a few years back? Ouch... That still stings. Opposing teams 3pt% would probably be in the low 30's.. Jumpshots in the mid 30's. That would have been awesome.

So would ours.