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We'll end up with Casspi and Acy, while Moreland and Brooks will sign elsewhere. So he costs nothing? Unless we don't move D-Will or Outlaw, I'm highly skeptical about this...
ESPN reporting Casspi to sign one-year deal (updated title)
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Tetsujin
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No, keeping Acy and Omri still leaves us with one open roster spot for Moreland. We may lose out on Brooks but scoring guards are honestly dime a dozen so once a move DOES happen, it's not completely impossible to sign another guard with similar skills to Brooks (who looked good at points in Summer League but has not looked all that awesome over his last two years in the league and is the definition of the term 'one trick pony').
Tetsujin
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Amick has a serious hard-on for bashing Demarcus and honestly hasn't been as good at breaking Kings news since the front office changeover.
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KingMilz
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Question why would we want Casspi? He's got that Derrick Williams casper the ghost dissappearing act and he's pretty soft. Dude got no time in the playoffs for the Rockets as well and the only reason he played any mins for the Rockets was casue Asik was having a cry and Mchale played that garbage basketball of chucking 3's and flopping non stop which got exposed quickly in the playoffs.
I don't want him I way rather Brooks at least Brooks can dribble and get to the free throw line, not a Casspi fan I would prefer he play in Europe and get that "larger role" he wanted leaving the first time.
I don't want him I way rather Brooks at least Brooks can dribble and get to the free throw line, not a Casspi fan I would prefer he play in Europe and get that "larger role" he wanted leaving the first time.
jcwkings
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Casspi played more as a stretch 4 for Houston than 3. If it's between Casspi and Acy it makes sense, Acy is essentially a poor man's Reggie Evans who apparently wants to play like a stretch 4. Casspi is a legit stretch 4(at least in the current NBA). He offers a different skillset compared to Landry, JT, Evans where Acy would essentially be the poor mans version of what JT and Evans would bring(and he could also play the 3 if Williams or Outlaw is playing bad, which is likely). Also when Casspi was first here he had grandeur visions of himself as a starting SF, now he knows his place in the league as a spot shooter/high energy guy off the bench.
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KingMilz
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No he's not he's a slow 3 who can't defend, seriously we got enough marshmellows on this team, seriously give me a hardworking player over a softy anyday. It's not like Casspi has that much talent where it overrides his lack of fire like Rudy Gay does, he's soft and limited which is a terrible combo.
jcwkings
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Ehh I wouldn't call him soft, seems more like a "Euro stereotype". I love Acy too but acknowledge him for what he is(undersized poor mans Reggie Evans), if we are going to give Moreland a contract than certainly one of Evans or Acy would have to go. If no trades are made we know Cousins, JT, Landry will take up the bulk of the forward minutes, leaving scraps for one of Acy, Evans, Moreland potentially. Casspi makes more sense as far as filling out the roster, outside of Stauskas we have absolutely no other consistent outside shooter.
Albatros
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KingMilz
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Why are they even looking at Casspi seriously we still need a shot blocker or decent big man to pair with Cousins, we have not signed Moreland and we are looking at Casspi wtf is PDA doing, solve important matters first instead of signing scrubs who have the nerve to moan cause they don't play.
Why was Casspi not at the SL proving himself?
I will be super pissed if they sign Casspi a known softy who complains and moans (here and in Cleveland) over a guy who's actually trying to improve and can actually impact a game from time to time. Casspi is terrible for a culture change and he really does not bring much to the table on or off the court.
Why are they even looking at Casspi seriously we still need a shot blocker or decent big man to pair with Cousins, we have not signed Moreland and we are looking at Casspi wtf is PDA doing, solve important matters first instead of signing scrubs who have the nerve to moan cause they don't play.
Why was Casspi not at the SL proving himself?
ParniValjak
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I don't mind Omri as a cheap back up. He is likely to perform better than either of Williams and Outlaw so not too fussed as he is cheap and adds some depth there as a back up if or when we move Williams and/or Outlaw.
He brings a bit of intesity (completely opposite to Williams who looks half asleep most of the time), is a solid rebounder and streaky shooter. A full sized SF.
The downside of course is that we keep on chewing into that bit of gap before we hit luxury tax. I would like for us to add Moreland as well but unless we rlease Acy, I think we won't be able to do so unless we pay luxury tax which is pointless for a lottery team.
I am hoping this is a move before a bigger move where we trade Williams and/or Outlaw and have Casspi as Gay's back up. The downside is the inevitable influx of Casspi fans who will drown this board with irrational homerism.
He brings a bit of intesity (completely opposite to Williams who looks half asleep most of the time), is a solid rebounder and streaky shooter. A full sized SF.
The downside of course is that we keep on chewing into that bit of gap before we hit luxury tax. I would like for us to add Moreland as well but unless we rlease Acy, I think we won't be able to do so unless we pay luxury tax which is pointless for a lottery team.
I am hoping this is a move before a bigger move where we trade Williams and/or Outlaw and have Casspi as Gay's back up. The downside is the inevitable influx of Casspi fans who will drown this board with irrational homerism.
ParniValjak
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Err Casspi has more intensity on the court in his little finger than Williams in his whole body. He might not have much else but soft, he definitely ain't. His intensity os probably his biggest asset.
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KingMilz
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Saw zero of it in Houston and Cleveland, only time he showed me any fire was when he was complaining about not playing here and in Cleveland.
ockingsfan
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I don't see why so many people have a problem with Casspi.
To be fair to Casspi, the Kings were very dysfunctional under the Maloofs and every coach they had when he was last here. Most players would complain too (i.e. Dalembert) if the coach had no direction with the team and the rotations (i.e. Westphal, Smart, Mussleman)
When he was with the Kings before he was a hustle-energy player.
He was a solid rotation player for Houston last year.
He has a better 3 point shot than any backup SF we have on the roster now and is insurance for if DWilliams gets traded.
At the veterans minimum, I think it would be a good pick up.
To be fair to Casspi, the Kings were very dysfunctional under the Maloofs and every coach they had when he was last here. Most players would complain too (i.e. Dalembert) if the coach had no direction with the team and the rotations (i.e. Westphal, Smart, Mussleman)
When he was with the Kings before he was a hustle-energy player.
He was a solid rotation player for Houston last year.
He has a better 3 point shot than any backup SF we have on the roster now and is insurance for if DWilliams gets traded.
At the veterans minimum, I think it would be a good pick up.
You have these really strange vendettas against certain guys.
Casspi was pretty good defensively last year. Most defensive stats really like what he did. He has positive +/- stats. Wasn't a brilliant floor spacer, but he's certainly a lot better than we currently have on the team. Casspi really revamped himself last year into being an NBA rotational player. Had he not, he would have been done in the NBA.
I know you're one of the bigger Acy fans around and Casspi means a likely exit for Acy. But no need to really overthink this sort of move. It reduces a cluttered position and improves our bench overall.
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KingMilz
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Really so that's why he was completely out of the rotation once the playoffs started, you would think a guy with his range who is "pretty good defensively" would have played and helped them in the playoffs in particular in a system that's perfect for him in particular with Jones struggling and Asik not being in game shape for most the year.
Dime Dropper
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I'd absolutely love to hear you elaborate on this. You better have a good argument or I'm going to shred you to pieces for your ignorance.
whozit
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I don't know jcwkings, but I'm pretty sure I read that differently than you (I may be wrong). I interpreted the part you put in bold as a criticism of those who were calling him soft. That he was calling out those calling him soft because of the "Euro stereotype." Stereotype exist regardless if they are true or not. Bikers have a stereotype. My boss is a biker and loves riding the Harley with her husband. She's a good Christian woman. The biker stereotype lives on despite the fact a new Harley costs more than a pretty dime (basically a toy for the middle class).
Dime Dropper
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On second reading, you might be right.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
Mid-season trade deadline?
Kingster
Hall of Famer
I guess I have a different view than a lot of people when it comes to Outlaw. I thought that last year he was probably the best bench player the Kings had (after the trade). ( I know, that's not saying much
). As I recall, he came into several games and had a positive impact on the game because of his shooting. He also seemed to have eliminated the brain-dead plays he had at the beginning of Malone's tenure.I agree that your scenario about Acy, DWill, Casspi and Moreland makes sense and could happen.
captain bill
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I remember liking him when he got here. He played with a lot of fire and intensity, and seemed like a good guy.
However, I also remember his game being similar to Nik's (and Manu's or maybe Odom's), but he just was never good enough to do it effectively. I can't see him being a positive contributor. I *can* see a coach thinking he's polished and plugging him into Nik's potential role.
Caspi might be a serviceable vet on a playoff team, but he'd add to a logham here and I can't see him being part of a long term solution. No thanks.
This is Landry 2.0 (not just because we've already had him, but because he's the type of player that would be a waste of space and doesn't make sense for this team)
However, I also remember his game being similar to Nik's (and Manu's or maybe Odom's), but he just was never good enough to do it effectively. I can't see him being a positive contributor. I *can* see a coach thinking he's polished and plugging him into Nik's potential role.
Caspi might be a serviceable vet on a playoff team, but he'd add to a logham here and I can't see him being part of a long term solution. No thanks.
This is Landry 2.0 (not just because we've already had him, but because he's the type of player that would be a waste of space and doesn't make sense for this team)
Jkbiker
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Comment From Chad C
How likely is it that casspi comes back? Has he improved since leaving sac? Is that even a piece we need?
Jason Jones: At this rate, I'd say less than 50%
Hard to say he's improved, considering he's on his third team since being dealt. But the key for him is accepting a role as a defender/rebounder/floor spacer and not a key guy. I think he gets that, but I don't think he's what the Kings need most
(Reference sacbee live chat yesterday)
Well hopefully Jason is right and it just doesn't happen
Personally I liked Omri when he was here until he turned into a Whiney Beotch Me first player
instead of a team player
Maybe now he has learned his place as a backup player since this might be his last chance
before he ends up in Europe, he might have a "I'll do whatever I can to help the team attitude"
And Please I wish all this talk of playing DWill or Casspi as a "Stretch four" has got to stop right now!!!
Even Jason Jones said he thought DWill would be our starting 4 (Same live chat) next to Gay
How likely is it that casspi comes back? Has he improved since leaving sac? Is that even a piece we need?
Jason Jones: At this rate, I'd say less than 50%
Hard to say he's improved, considering he's on his third team since being dealt. But the key for him is accepting a role as a defender/rebounder/floor spacer and not a key guy. I think he gets that, but I don't think he's what the Kings need most
(Reference sacbee live chat yesterday)
Well hopefully Jason is right and it just doesn't happen
Personally I liked Omri when he was here until he turned into a Whiney Beotch Me first player
instead of a team player
Maybe now he has learned his place as a backup player since this might be his last chance
before he ends up in Europe, he might have a "I'll do whatever I can to help the team attitude"
And Please I wish all this talk of playing DWill or Casspi as a "Stretch four" has got to stop right now!!!
Even Jason Jones said he thought DWill would be our starting 4 (Same live chat) next to Gay
MassachusettsKingsFan
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The idea that Williams could be a stretch anything is absurd. The guy can't shoot, period, from anywhere. His best NBA skill at this point is getting to the FT line. When he decides to go to the rim, good things usually happen, but he doesn't do that nearly enough and will spend minutes at a time making no impact whatsoever.
Williams might be the worst starting 4 choice we could realistically make. I'd start Thompson or Evans before him, certainly. I'd even go with Acy or freaking Moreland over Williams. The only guy I might take Williams over as a starter is Landry, but I think Landry is a better player overall.
Williams might be the worst starting 4 choice we could realistically make. I'd start Thompson or Evans before him, certainly. I'd even go with Acy or freaking Moreland over Williams. The only guy I might take Williams over as a starter is Landry, but I think Landry is a better player overall.
LPKingsFan
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Williams is a "stretch" in the sense that it's a "stretch" to say he's a legitimate NBA player.
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SacKings2002NBAChampions
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Damn, the most disappointing off-season EVER.
So much talk from PDA, so little action.
Can't win anything with Cousins and Gay as your only center pieces.
So much talk from PDA, so little action.
Can't win anything with Cousins and Gay as your only center pieces.
That's not exactly a ringing endorsement.
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