espn kings will go 23-59 ouch!

i really can't see the kings being that bad. Also the so called experts are wrong a good majority of the time. Look at baseball at the beggining of the years the ray where perdicted to be 4th in there division the reasoning was they where a young team with over the hill veterns. look at them 1st in a hard division and in the playoffs. i don't think the kings will make the playoffs but i think they will have more then 30 wins
 
I see the kings wosing about 25-30 times this year.

thats the same estimate as me, and im calling it. while im not dogging our team, we cannot accurately estimate their wins by who we have, but who they play against. the west got better once again, and we... didnt. who else didnt get better? gs, la, minne, memphis. i say were better than minne/memphis, but right around the rest of those teams. anything more is wishful thinking imo
 
Unfortunately 23 wins sounds about right. I hope they prove everyone wrong. You know i'm a die-hard Kings fan when i'm about to buy NBA Season Pass to watch those 23 wins and those 59 loses!! Go Kings!! :cool:
 
its going just as planned.. :D we suck our way up to a high lotto pick while our young guys gain experience. our capspace will come in time when the young players have some experience under their belts. go kings!!!!
 
only one above average player???!!! what a MORON! K-Mart is a star in this league and Miller, Udrih, Salmons and Garcia are all above average. BSPN is a bunch of idiots getting paid for moronic articles and pseudo analyses like that.
 
only one above average player???!!! what a MORON! K-Mart is a star in this league and Miller, Udrih, Salmons and Garcia are all above average. BSPN is a bunch of idiots getting paid for moronic articles and pseudo analyses like that.

Don't ever forget that the E stands for entertainment...


I've never cared what ESPN thinks. It's all about ratings and sensationalism. Do they care enough about small-market Sacto for a detailed analysis? Probably not. Just look at the roster and take a guess. There's a little bit of truth sprinkled with said analysis, but not anything to get worked up about. Now, if this came from the Sac Bee...then maybe.

Let's face it. We're a bunch of unknown commodities at this point. Will Martin flounder or flourish knowing that the target will be on his back every night? Will the young players mature?

I don't care what they think. Lace 'em up, play the game.
 
Don't ever forget that the E stands for entertainment...


I've never cared what ESPN thinks. It's all about ratings and sensationalism. Do they care enough about small-market Sacto for a detailed analysis? Probably not. Just look at the roster and take a guess.


Oh no. I don't agree with the predicted win total (although frankly I hope he's right), but one thing you can never do is accuse John Hollinger of contributing anything but a detailed analysis. In fact the very question with him is always whether he can see the forest through the blizzard of numbers he always throws up.

There will certianly be nothing coming form any of our Bee writers that can match the detail of this. Whether they can display a more of a feel that rises about mere numbers is another question.

As an aside, oddly I notice the estimation of outside writers' IQs ratehr dramatically rising or falling almost purely on how well they think the Kings willl do each year. Tis a strange phenomenon. ;)
 
Looking at our line-up, if Theus could just play the young players and have them develop we could be like the young Blazers, or a poor mans version...where they surprised the league and a few years back. Hawes,JT,Salmons,Martin and Udrih.
 
for this to come true the kings would probbly win 5 road games. that means 18 home wins.

I don't see that happening.
they won 26 at home last year and 12 on the road.

they will win more than 23 just on the home court.
 
Oh no. I don't agree with the predicted win total (although frankly I hope he's right), but one thing you can never do is accuse John Hollinger of contributing anything but a detailed analysis. In fact the very question with him is always whether he can see the forest through the blizzard of numbers he always throws up.

Point taken. I didn't even care to read whose article it was. Hollinger's the PER guy, right? Oddly enough, I think I've used his stats in several arguments over TDOS...

My argument was over ESPN as a whole. Take it for what it's worth.
 
Point taken. I didn't even care to read whose article it was. Hollinger's the PER guy, right? Oddly enough, I think I've used his stats in several arguments over TDOS...

PER actually isn't a bad starting point for comparing the relative values of players, but his predictive powers often leave something to be desired.

I could also do without the 87 other guys all doing their own variations on the PER. :p
 
Martin might not have the best defense but I guarantee he takes more charges then a lot of players in this league. That is the one thing hes does really well and I know as soon as he get to that all-star status he will get a lot more calls. I would love to see the NBA keep track of that stat.

Some people might call that flopping. There is something to be said for being in the right place at the right time...but guys who lead the league in drawing charge calls are usually throwing in a little something "extra" to tip the scales in their favor.
 
Regression to the Mean

I think it's a reasonable analysis. It may not be right, but it is reasonable. I can definitely see Miller regressing. Last year he came into camp in great shape because he was TOTALLY embarassing. Some players are like that - they only get motivated after they are pitiful. But because he was pretty good last year, who knows? But when it comes to Salmons and Garcia, it seems like he's not taking into account that both are either in their prime or entering into their prime. I would be surprised if they both didn't play at least as well as last year. Beno is a wild card because of his injury problems. I wouldn't expect him to be healthy for 82 games, more like 50. And then Brown is a wildcard that could surprise either to the upside or the downside. Miki is Miki; I doubt he changes from last year. Hawes could have a big year and really make a positive impact. The rookies will be rookies.
 
Is the author implying that Brad Miller actually had a good season last season? Because he was awful.

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He was largely back within the range of traditional Brad Miller seasons. At his age though the permanent slip will be coming sooner rather than later one of these seasons.
 
Is the author implying that Brad Miller actually had a good season last season? Because he was awful.

You might want to check your stats before making that kind of comment. Aside from the last couple of weeks, Miller had a great season and was a pleasant surprise to a great many fans.
 
You might want to check your stats before making that kind of comment. Aside from the last couple of weeks, Miller had a great season and was a pleasant surprise to a great many fans.

seriously. 13pts, 10 reb, 4 assists, a steal and a block. everyone talks about wanting a double double pf, and miller just about avg a double double. not all star numbers, but definitely better than the average starting center
 
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