Eric Bledsoe
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Letsgokings13
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I'd love to get Bledsoe and keep Gay if at all possible. and have a line up of
Bledsoe
Vet FA or Whoever is remaining (need a 3 pt shooter)
Gay
WCS
DMC
Bledsoe
Vet FA or Whoever is remaining (need a 3 pt shooter)
Gay
WCS
DMC
Peter_Gibbons
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Bledsoe would be an upgrade at PG but I would think twice before giving up Gay for him. His history of multiple knee injuries still worries me. Look at Rose, you don't really ever get better after you've had major surgeries.
I know that ship has sailed long ago, but I wish we kept Tyreke at his very reasonable salary of $11 mil per. Their stats are basically identical but I like Reke's size where he can guard the 2 if they play two PGs and Reke doesn't have a history of knee surgeries.
I know that ship has sailed long ago, but I wish we kept Tyreke at his very reasonable salary of $11 mil per. Their stats are basically identical but I like Reke's size where he can guard the 2 if they play two PGs and Reke doesn't have a history of knee surgeries.
upinsmoke
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I think there is a window of opportunity right now to get Bledsoe and this is why. The Suns just signed Knight and Phoenix could be looking to deal him. While Phoenix obviously wants the best return possible it might just not be there because a lot of teams already have their PG in place. I think a 3 team deal where Rudy goes to another team and sends phoenix back assets sounds legit.
HndsmCelt
Hall of Famer
I get the love for Bledsoe but at this moment any change to the starting 5 better result in moving one of them to the bench. We had a top starting 5 at the start of last season the problem IS the bench. So no way I would include Gay in a trade for Bledsoe...sure it looks good on paper but those 5 looked good ON COURT. Now if we can get him for other parts and keep Rudy sure.
KingsFanGER
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We tried to fix our SF Position for years until Rudy arrived. And he was available only because Toronto tried to use him as a Nr. 1 option and his contract was bad.
Now he is on a deal with fair value. He is our second best player and our backup is rather weak.
But DC is actually a solid PG. So why should we move our second best player, that plays a position where we have no substitute, for a player that's redundant to DC to a certain amount?
I really like Bledsoe, but in no way should we give up Gay in a trade. There are more decent PG's in the league, than decent SF's.
Now he is on a deal with fair value. He is our second best player and our backup is rather weak.
But DC is actually a solid PG. So why should we move our second best player, that plays a position where we have no substitute, for a player that's redundant to DC to a certain amount?
I really like Bledsoe, but in no way should we give up Gay in a trade. There are more decent PG's in the league, than decent SF's.
Peter_Gibbons
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Yup, I wouldn't give up Gay that easily either. Bledsoe is good, but not great. Tyreke would've been the perfect 2nd PG on the floor.
Lesson for the Kings ownership, you NEVER give away your assets for peanuts. Even if you didn't think Tyreke was good enough a shooter, you resign him at that very reasonable salary of $11 mil per. If they did, they would have another asset to get someone they want right now. At this point, we have no real assets other than DMC, Gay or WCS.
upinsmoke
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But part of the assets we acquired from Tyreke became Rudy via trade. Thomas Robinson was traded for a package that included Patterson so I think of it like this, we traded Evans plus a first for Rudy.
rainmaker
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Problem with moving Rudy is there's almost no decent SFs on the market we could bring in. Deng just reportedly opted in. I'm looking at the list of UFA SFs and there's just not much there. Go after a guy like Teletovic? Aminu? Dunleavy? Re-sign and start Omri? Tely obviously has the health concern but he is a very good shooter.
I don't see how we could give up Rudy and be better off for it. I'd be centering a package around one of Nik/Ben and JT, then try getting a 3rd big to replace JT in free agency.
I don't see how we could give up Rudy and be better off for it. I'd be centering a package around one of Nik/Ben and JT, then try getting a 3rd big to replace JT in free agency.
randymoss1881
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If we do move Gay there are multiple ways to fix the SF position.
A deal like Gay/Nik/Landry for
Bledsoe/Tucker. Gives us 11mill in spending money give Aminu 9mill while Dallas fails as usual to get a major FA and than give 2mill to Wesley Johnson. Aminu/Johnson/ and Tucker are all very good defenders at SF. I know loosing Gay would hurt but the ball movement would increase which betters the team and our bench would get better. Our bench would be Collison, Tucker, Johnson, JT
A deal like Gay/Nik/Landry for
Bledsoe/Tucker. Gives us 11mill in spending money give Aminu 9mill while Dallas fails as usual to get a major FA and than give 2mill to Wesley Johnson. Aminu/Johnson/ and Tucker are all very good defenders at SF. I know loosing Gay would hurt but the ball movement would increase which betters the team and our bench would get better. Our bench would be Collison, Tucker, Johnson, JT
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Sacramental
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According to ESPN's Marc Stein the Kings and the Suns are close to a swap involving Eric Bledsoe, not sure who from Sac is heading to PHX. He has since removed his tweet so take it for what it is worth it.
Jkbiker
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I do not think Bledsoe is that big of an upgrade over DC, but if that what it takes to make Big cuz happy then
DC, Nik and Landry for Bledsoe
Phoenix has Brandon and DC a very good 2 PG rotation, gets Nik and Carl to match up salary
Phoenix gets reasonable cost on DC, possible outside help by Nick, then they can stretch Landry if they need more cap in FA
We get an upgrade and Big cuz buddy, and we get our big three backed up by Ben and WCS
BIG NO to trading Gay
DC, Nik and Landry for Bledsoe
Phoenix has Brandon and DC a very good 2 PG rotation, gets Nik and Carl to match up salary
Phoenix gets reasonable cost on DC, possible outside help by Nick, then they can stretch Landry if they need more cap in FA
We get an upgrade and Big cuz buddy, and we get our big three backed up by Ben and WCS
BIG NO to trading Gay
rainmaker
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Hoovtrain
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Do you have a link for this? i see nothing from Stein indicating there is any imminent deal.
LPKingsFan
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If we do trade Gay, I would expect us to then go after some former Karl guys like Wilson chandler (via trade) or Corey Brewer (free agent). Word today was that the Knicks are front runners for Afflalo.
That's a bad trade for the Suns.
Bledsoe is a huge upgrade over Collison. Everything from his talents to his defense. Plus, he's younger. He can be a top 10 PG in the NBA. Collison is at his highest peak, while Bledsoe is in his prime.
nba.com shows, that Bledsoe was exactly average on D last year, and it was first season, he was paid non-rookie salary. You might not see 100% defensive effort from him until next contract year.
P.S.
P.S.
Hopefully it's another work of an agent to create buzz, and not real team intentions.
Letsgokings13
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I want Bledsoe. Get him!
SacTownKid
Hall of Famer
Bledsoe is not an upgrade to Rudy Gay. If you could add him that's one thing, but Rudy Gay is an upper echelon SF. I think that's pretty important these days.
We gave up the 4th least points per game against Point Guards last year which is by far the best we ranked against any other position. C, PF and SF we were basically slightly below average.
SG we were dead last.
If anything we need defensive help at SG.
Collison wasn't perfect but he exuded the most effort on defense.
SG we were dead last.
If anything we need defensive help at SG.
Collison wasn't perfect but he exuded the most effort on defense.
I don't really like the idea of sending Gay out to get Bledsoe. It's not like we've got much more in the way of options at SF and I'm not sure we can come close to replacing him on the FA market. On the other hand, if we could swing a deal of Ben and JT for Bledsoe (this would probably have to include a future pick) it could leave us looking very pretty, though we'd only have a couple of million dollars to work with under the salary cap.
Basically we'd be looking at:
Collison/McCallum/Stockton
Bledsoe/Stauskas
Gay
Cauley-Stein/Landry
Cousins/Moreland
Our frontline isn't great there in terms of depth, with Landry not a guy you want to play big minutes and Moreland completely untested (Cauley-Stein too, but I'm not worried about him). We can probably assume we'd see Omri coming back to pick up backup SF minutes as well as give time for Gay to slide over to PF to give minutes to the frontline. We could probably assume that we'd have a backcourt rotation of primarily Collison/Bledsoe/Stauskas with one of either Collison or Bledsoe on the floor at all times. Ray can give spot minutes. Stockton likely does not make the team but a guy like Corey Hawkins might be an interesting fifth guard. The only problem is that we don't have much money to try to pick up PF/C depth. But a starting five of DC/EB/RG/WCS/DMC would seem to be plenty to challenge for a playoff spot - the big question is the bench. Nik, Omri, Ray is pretty decent for guard/wing but unless Landry or Moreland or ?? can step up the frontline depth is probably poor enough to be the Achilles' Heel for that roster.
Basically we'd be looking at:
Collison/McCallum/Stockton
Bledsoe/Stauskas
Gay
Cauley-Stein/Landry
Cousins/Moreland
Our frontline isn't great there in terms of depth, with Landry not a guy you want to play big minutes and Moreland completely untested (Cauley-Stein too, but I'm not worried about him). We can probably assume we'd see Omri coming back to pick up backup SF minutes as well as give time for Gay to slide over to PF to give minutes to the frontline. We could probably assume that we'd have a backcourt rotation of primarily Collison/Bledsoe/Stauskas with one of either Collison or Bledsoe on the floor at all times. Ray can give spot minutes. Stockton likely does not make the team but a guy like Corey Hawkins might be an interesting fifth guard. The only problem is that we don't have much money to try to pick up PF/C depth. But a starting five of DC/EB/RG/WCS/DMC would seem to be plenty to challenge for a playoff spot - the big question is the bench. Nik, Omri, Ray is pretty decent for guard/wing but unless Landry or Moreland or ?? can step up the frontline depth is probably poor enough to be the Achilles' Heel for that roster.
LA King Fan II
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Saw that Hornacek denies interest in trading Bledsoe.
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Bricklayer
Don't Make Me Use The Bat
Our depth in general. be like last year, only maybe worse. Nifty starting 5, at least if the rook pans out and Bledsoe stays healthy, but the bench would be league worst again
White_Chocolate
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Unless we are willing to offer Gay I don't see any legitimate reason why the Suns would want to trade Bledsoe after signing him to a reasonable 5 year 70 mil deal (considering what the max will be in 2016). Even Ben, JT and a pick is pretty weak for a player of Bledsoe's calibre. I prefer the idea of getting Stuckey and other solid rotational players than blowing up the core of Boogie, WCS, and Gay.
Entity
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have to miami it. get guys on there last leg
John Galt
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Well, I like Rudy Gay but I will learn to live without him if it brings us Bledsoe, who we presume DMC likes. All this talk about Karl playing Rudy as PF has me nervous that we will be doormats next year. I'd rather have Omri or Ben starting at SF if necessary (with Bledsoe on board), than go into the year with power forward Rudy Gay as "plan A"
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