Draft Day!

[SacTownKid]

hahahahah - someone is excited.

Haha. It's the truth. I'm not saying the guys the next superstar, but he's a beast. The Kings don't have anyone that fits that description so not bad in my book.

 

[hrdboild]

I love McCain going to the Sixers. They need shooters and he's a really good one.

 

[The_Jamal]

Knecht to the Lakers is a gift for them. Bleh

 

[kingdivac]

I talked about this in earlier threads but, Davion is heading into the last season of his rookie deal. I think he likely was always on the way out. You just couldn't justify giving him a 4/40 type deal, if he had a strong season.

The guard rotation is going to be Fox/Keon/Monk/Carter. 2 elite shot creators and 2 absolute defensive disruptors. Davion, Huerter are going to be gone.

Yessir - exactly....guard position is cemented. Gonna Love to see Carter get out on the all the elite guards out there

 

[Tetsujin]

Knecht to the Lakers is a gift for them. Bleh

To be fair I thought the same about Hood-Schifino last season and the Lakers wound up not being able to use him at all

 

[206Fan]

Knecht to the Lakers is a gift for them. Bleh

He's a bigger Austin Reaves. They got a good pcik

 

[The_Jamal]

Haha. It's the truth. I'm not saying the guys the next superstar, but he's a beast. The Kings don't have anyone that fits that description so not bad in my book.

I don't understand how people just watched Jrue Holiday and Derrick White play this season and look at Carter with incredibly similar intangibles and not be excited.

Again, those are ceiling comps, but Carter is the archetype you go to battle with in the playoffs. People complained about our lack of toughness, lack of defensive intensity? Not anymore.

 

[sactowndog]

Defensive dog with a huge wingspan and legitimate star upside. How doesn’t he help us?

because the only other defensive dog we have plays the same spot. If we have a trade coming great if not bummer.

not a criticism of Carter. Great player whom
I watched in the Big East. Opposing coaches love him.

 

[luckytkp]

I am sure this pick will help us beat the wings of Pels.

 

[SacTownKid]

because the only other defensive dog we have plays the same spot. If we have a trade coming great if not

Carter is a little older, but it's not like he has to hit the ground running. Having potential in your back pocket has worked for Monte before if change is needed.

 

[funkykingston]

There are 96 guard minutes to fill…..Carter and Ellis going to play some 3……..I mean I get they have length but the other teams have guys at the 3 who are bigger taller with more length….no?

Keon and Davion on the trade block in separate deals to bring back bigger wings?

Not Keon. You trade Davion, Huerter, and Duarte (along with HB) to balance things out. Keon and Carter are EXACTLY the guards you want next to Fox & Monk.

 

[Tetsujin]

I don't understand how people just watched Jrue Holiday and Derrick White play this season and look at Carter with incredibly similar intangibles and not be excited.

Again, those are ceiling comps, but Carter is the archetype you go to battle with in the playoffs. People complained about our lack of toughness, lack of defensive intensity? Not anymore.

Feel like people are getting way too caught up in traditional position stuff and not thinking about how Mike Brown pretty much went exclusively with three guard lineups for most of the 2024 calendar year and saw the defensive ranking of the team skyrocket.

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

I don't understand how people just watched Jrue Holiday and Derrick White play this season and look at Carter with incredibly similar intangibles and not be excited.

Again, those are ceiling comps, but Carter is the archetype you go to battle with in the playoffs. People complained about our lack of toughness, lack of defensive intensity? Not anymore.

He was the best player available, no doubt. I don't have a problem with it. I think some are concerned that there isn't currently room for a rookie guard to play much this next season on a roster with established guards and a team trying to become a contender now. I don't see him coming in and beating out Keon Ellis in his first season, but if that were to happen, it would change things

 

[Tetsujin]

https://twitter.com/statuses/1806145979835400229

 

[Section 101]

Oh damn, that **** was today?

They moved it up when it became 2 days. Second round tomorrow.

 

[SacTownKid]

I am sure this pick will help us beat the wings of Pels.

Actually, don't be too unsure about that. The options up for trade wouldn't have done much themselves. Slight upgrades to Barnes in Cam and someone that has had almost literally no effect on teams winning anything ever as a starter in Kuz.

 

[sactowndog]

Yessir - exactly....guard position is cemented. Gonna Love to see Carter get out on the all the elite guards out there

Carter’s risk is shooting. Similiar to Davion but much longer.

 

[hrdboild]

I don't understand how people just watched Jrue Holiday and Derrick White play this season and look at Carter with incredibly similar intangibles and not be excited.

Again, those are ceiling comps, but Carter is the archetype you go to battle with in the playoffs. People complained about our lack of toughness, lack of defensive intensity? Not anymore.

We still need a bigger defensive wing and and a defensive big or two. There's more work to be done. But all I ask for is that we only add pieces who help the team defense and I think Carter will.

I'd love to have a second pick here for Dunn, Holmes, or Missi. I can't see any of them falling all the way to 45.

 

[luckytkp]

I don't understand how people just watched Jrue Holiday and Derrick White play this season and look at Carter with incredibly similar intangibles and not be excited.

Again, those are ceiling comps, but Carter is the archetype you go to battle with in the playoffs. People complained about our lack of toughness, lack of defensive intensity? Not anymore.

I hope he will, but by the time he becomes White/Holiday, Fox/Sabonis will be in the the 30s.

 

[Section 101]

That would be a mistake to trade Ellis now, based on a guy who hasn't played at all in the NBA

On a cheaper contract and a better shooter.

 

[SacTownKid]

Feel like people are getting way too caught up in traditional position stuff and not thinking about how Mike Brown pretty much went with three guard lineups for most of the 2024 calendar year and saw the defensive ranking of the team skyrocket.

Yeah, replace Davion with this guy next to Fox and Monk. Then with Keon to slide in any of PG, SG, and SF. Yes, not huge but the Kings did actually get bigger.

 

[206Fan]

I don't understand how people just watched Jrue Holiday and Derrick White play this season and look at Carter with incredibly similar intangibles and not be excited.

Again, those are ceiling comps, but Carter is the archetype you go to battle with in the playoffs. People complained about our lack of toughness, lack of defensive intensity? Not anymore.

Probably because he's 6'2.5" and barely only had 1 good shooting year out of 3. doesn't help that he's joining a team whose two best players are lack luster shooters. also doesn't help that Fox is a really small PG himself.

i guess i don't like the idea of replacing davion... with another davion. I know he's got more length, but that's essentially what you're doing here.

 

[The_Jamal]

because the only other defensive dog we have plays the same spot. If we have a trade coming great if not

Agreed.

If Huerter and Davion are on our roster start of the season, that's a failure on Monte. I'll be right there with you calling him on that.

But you just don't use the draft to address needs. Knecht and TDS were absolute plug and play fits, but man Carter's just got an incredible ceiling on both sides of the ball. I think he easily could be the 2nd best guard on the team and unlike Davion, I think he actually slots better at the 2 than the 1 at the pro level. Absolute rock solid frame with a huge wingspan and an incredible athlete.

ESPY called it perfectly. Imagine we just take Mitchell, but because we were "set" at guard with Fox and Buddy, we passed. Whoops.

 

[dude12]

Not Keon. You trade Davion, Huerter, and Duarte (along with HB) to balance things out. Keon and Carter are EXACTLY the guards you want next to Fox & Monk.

Of course, but you have to trade something to get something. Keon will have more value to more teams in the league based on his late season play. Some organizations will not value Davion at all due to size…..which is a thing as much as we all love his tenacity and defensive ability

 

[SacTownKid]

I hope he will, but by the time he becomes White/Holiday, Fox/Sabonis will be in the the 30s.

Carter is another older Monte pick though. He doesn't need to develop physically at all.

 

[Turgenev]

It sounds like Carter will be a good pick, but I don't feel like you can judge it in a vacuum. Will we get something good in return for Davion or will we get Tristan Thompson 2.0?

 

[SacTownKid]

Probably because he's 6'2.5" and barely only had 1 good shooting year out of 3. doesn't help that he's joining a team whose two best players are lack luster shooters. also doesn't help that Fox is a really small PG himself.

i guess i don't like the idea of replacing davion... with another davion. I know he's got more length, but that's essentially what you're doing here.

This isn't Davion dude. If Davion had even Carters size and athletic ability he's not at the Kings pick that year.

 

[The_Jamal]

He's a bigger Austin Reaves. They got a good pcik

Pretty good comp. But yeah. Ugh. Good pick for them

 

[ShastaKingsFan]

On a cheaper contract and a better shooter.

Yeah, if anyone is thinking he's going to step in and surpass Keon in his first season. I'd be surprised if that happened with how well the team played with Keon, who I assume will be the starter come game 1.

 

[Sac.Kings]

Probably because he's 6'2.5" and barely only had 1 good shooting year out of 3. doesn't help that he's joining a team whose two best players are lack luster shooters. also doesn't help that Fox is a really small PG himself.

i guess i don't like the idea of replacing davion... with another davion. I know he's got more length, but that's essentially what you're doing here.

Since when has Fox been considered a really small PG?