DOMAS BACK!!!
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Pretty sure Masai is going to hoard his 6'8" forwards of varying shooting ability until someone shoots him through the heart with a giant arrow like Smaug from the Hobbit. The dude won one ring with Kawhi and now seems to believe that all he needs to succeed is a roster full of guys who have all of his physical attributes but none of his skills. Wouldn't be shocked if they wind up signing OG to an extension before the season even begins.
Well remember the Kings got the short end of injury spectrum with Webber after a colossal contract at the time - I'd posit Webber pre-injury was more gifted than Sabonis talent-wise, so that's part of the gamble too. Injury risk is probably of the highest effect in pro sports - not just basketball. Post players probably absorb more contact than backcourt players on average. Sabonis takes a bunch of hits to his face close to once or twice a game.
Well we can only offer Monk 175% of his last salary in next year's FA so that would be a deal with a starting salary at $17,405,203 (comparable to the deals Barnes & Huerter currently have). If Monk continues to show out, that might be a reasonable deal.
As for Anunoby, you'd likely need to trade for him at this point. We won't be players in FA next year where he will likely opt out (if he hasn't signed an extension by then). Technically, we could still make a trade for Anunoby this offseason (depending on the precise numbers of the contracts for Sabonis & Barnes). It would have to include these salaries going out...
Davion Mitchell
Chris Duarte
PJ Dozier
Kessler Edwards
Pick(s)
for
OG Anunoby
According to my calculations, we still have ~$5 mil in cap space, so we'd combine that cap space with the players above to make an Anunoby trade work. That would give us a roster of...
PG - Fox / Monk
SG - Huerter / Jones
SF - Murray / Barnes
PF - Anunoby / Sasha / Slawson
C - Sabonis / Lyles / Len
Having said that, I'd be surprised if we made a trade for Anunoby at this point as it would be odd to trade for Duarte only to immediately flip him. Perhaps McNair will revisit it at the deadline to see if Masai's asking price has come down.
As for Anunoby, you'd likely need to trade for him at this point. We won't be players in FA next year where he will likely opt out (if he hasn't signed an extension by then). Technically, we could still make a trade for Anunoby this offseason (depending on the precise numbers of the contracts for Sabonis & Barnes). It would have to include these salaries going out...
Davion Mitchell
Chris Duarte
PJ Dozier
Kessler Edwards
Pick(s)
for
OG Anunoby
According to my calculations, we still have ~$5 mil in cap space, so we'd combine that cap space with the players above to make an Anunoby trade work. That would give us a roster of...
PG - Fox / Monk
SG - Huerter / Jones
SF - Murray / Barnes
PF - Anunoby / Sasha / Slawson
C - Sabonis / Lyles / Len
Having said that, I'd be surprised if we made a trade for Anunoby at this point as it would be odd to trade for Duarte only to immediately flip him. Perhaps McNair will revisit it at the deadline to see if Masai's asking price has come down.
What's nice is after next season, we'll have all our assets and FRP available for potential flips again. And we'll have a pretty clear picture of who the long-term core is and who is expendable in a potential flip.
I think that was part of the evaluation this off-season too. Not overpaying for super mid-FA deals, keep the boys together for one more season and head into the 24 off-season with a full arsenal and another year of information on what this team needs.
I think that was part of the evaluation this off-season too. Not overpaying for super mid-FA deals, keep the boys together for one more season and head into the 24 off-season with a full arsenal and another year of information on what this team needs.
The other thing that seems to be aligning is the fact that McNair is lining up a lot of these contracts to expire in the 2026 offseason. Fox, Barnes, Huerter, Murray, & Sasha all are expirings that year. (If we resign Monk to a 2 year deal next offseason, he'll be an expiring as well). Gives him another window in the future to make some drastic pivots if it's needed.
The boom or bust mentality can drive me crazy. It’s now very trendy to say nothing matters about the regular season….load management, intensity isn’t always there, home court in the playoffs doesn’t seem to really matter anymore. All of that may have some merit to some degree, but you know what? I still love watching regular season Kings games. For 16 years of losing I still watched them and somehow got enjoyment out of it. This is not life or death. It’s entertainment. I will still live and die every game, but if we can get a highly competitive, fun, feel good team to watch over the next half decade that gives us our best shot at a championship in 20 years, I’ll take it even if they never make it to the top.
In domas, we just retained the core/hub that made last years squad one of the most exciting and entertaining teams in NBA history. You like stats? He puts up huge numbers across the board. Arguably the best in team history. You like team chemistry and camaraderie? The guy is an affable, caring teammate that inspires. You can say coach brown changed our culture, but that doesn’t happen without Domas selflessness and leadership. You like toughness? The dude played through a broken hand through half the season and shook off a stomping in the playoffs. People can feel free to point to his performance in 7 games in the team’s first playoffs in 17 years as the evidence for their skepticism, but come on..this is a total no brainer of a contract for everything he brings to this team. He is a low maintenance, team oriented all-nba player. There is a short list of players you can say that about.
In domas, we just retained the core/hub that made last years squad one of the most exciting and entertaining teams in NBA history. You like stats? He puts up huge numbers across the board. Arguably the best in team history. You like team chemistry and camaraderie? The guy is an affable, caring teammate that inspires. You can say coach brown changed our culture, but that doesn’t happen without Domas selflessness and leadership. You like toughness? The dude played through a broken hand through half the season and shook off a stomping in the playoffs. People can feel free to point to his performance in 7 games in the team’s first playoffs in 17 years as the evidence for their skepticism, but come on..this is a total no brainer of a contract for everything he brings to this team. He is a low maintenance, team oriented all-nba player. There is a short list of players you can say that about.
See my previous comment here. I think my numbers were a bit off, as I've edited some.. but it looks like the Kings are giving him a raise this season to offset for the "less money" he's getting the rest f his contract. Technically might be less by 1-2million of total money in his contract, but it's basically still the max for him.
As soon as an NBA player gets anywhere close to a max contract, fans immediately come out of the woodwork and start nitpicking about what CAN'T he do, what DIDN'T he do, and what WON'T he do for us in the future. As if your first impression of someone is who he/she is and will be for eternity.
Just ignore that he broke his finger for now (Since someone still accused his injury had nothing to do with his sudden lack of shooting touch in the Playoffs), to believe a 27-year-old basketball player who'd just entered his prime had his game figured out by the Warriors last playoffs, and simply would not improve is ludicrous, and what's more ridiculous is to still championing this point even after the franchise you are rooting for literally gave him a stamp of approval with a contract in this magnitude ignoring that "they are with him almost daily and thus must've seen something I didn't" just show the rest of the world how big and secluded you are allowing your own echo-chamber to become.
Fact is, every team in the league would want Sabonis today if they could, and would happily pay this contract in a heartbeat if they could.
Simple as that.
Just ignore that he broke his finger for now (Since someone still accused his injury had nothing to do with his sudden lack of shooting touch in the Playoffs), to believe a 27-year-old basketball player who'd just entered his prime had his game figured out by the Warriors last playoffs, and simply would not improve is ludicrous, and what's more ridiculous is to still championing this point even after the franchise you are rooting for literally gave him a stamp of approval with a contract in this magnitude ignoring that "they are with him almost daily and thus must've seen something I didn't" just show the rest of the world how big and secluded you are allowing your own echo-chamber to become.
Fact is, every team in the league would want Sabonis today if they could, and would happily pay this contract in a heartbeat if they could.
Simple as that.
We'll have to see, I mean it's setting up now that Domas has signed for big money that Fox. Keegan, and Domas could very well be taking up 70-80% or more of the cap by themselves. Saving up for cap space right now isn't realistic good plan. Keeping flexible assets is the way now. Monte signed contracts that aren't terrible at all and could have serious trade value at some point. Cap dreams were this offseason and after Beal went to the Suns apparently the cap method option was off the table.
I think our year 2 is better than the 2000 year two.
While we mostly ran it back, we lost Mad Max, we sent Tariq Abdul Wahad and draft capital to Orlando for Nick Anderson, and I think the only other memorable names were adding Tony Delk and Darrick Martin.
This time around we're losing Holmes, TD, Metu, Delly and gave up our pick while adding Duarte and Sasha. Maybe we'll add a small piece before its all said and done. Honestly feel like Duarte has the potential to be more valuable than Nick Anderson ever was and Sasha some of us may have unrealistic expectations for but I'd be shocked if he doesn't contribute at least on the level Keegan did last year.
While we mostly ran it back, we lost Mad Max, we sent Tariq Abdul Wahad and draft capital to Orlando for Nick Anderson, and I think the only other memorable names were adding Tony Delk and Darrick Martin.
This time around we're losing Holmes, TD, Metu, Delly and gave up our pick while adding Duarte and Sasha. Maybe we'll add a small piece before its all said and done. Honestly feel like Duarte has the potential to be more valuable than Nick Anderson ever was and Sasha some of us may have unrealistic expectations for but I'd be shocked if he doesn't contribute at least on the level Keegan did last year.
Hopefully, but I think people forget how young some of those pieces on that team were. I mean, put this in perspective. Hedo was 21, Peja was 23, J-Will was 25. Even Webber was basically the same age as Domas now. That should be the goal for this team though, break that 50 win mark. The honeymoon is over, no slow starts, chemistry teams need to hit the ground running and load up on the front end while all the new teams tinker.
As for Duarte, where does he play? When does he play? I'm not sure he has a guaranteed spot as it is. Fox, Davion, Monk, Huerter, and a 5th guy is probably some form or split between Edwards/Duarte. And that was a 10-13 mpg role mixed with games sitting as it was. Assuming Sasha is in that top 9 guys that pushes Edwards to 10. Edwards and Duarte are basically your 10-11 guys.
As for Duarte, where does he play? When does he play? I'm not sure he has a guaranteed spot as it is. Fox, Davion, Monk, Huerter, and a 5th guy is probably some form or split between Edwards/Duarte. And that was a 10-13 mpg role mixed with games sitting as it was. Assuming Sasha is in that top 9 guys that pushes Edwards to 10. Edwards and Duarte are basically your 10-11 guys.
Here is another link concerning the surgery:
https://basketnews.com/news-191942-domantas-sabonis-underwent-thumb-surgery.html
https://basketnews.com/news-191942-domantas-sabonis-underwent-thumb-surgery.html