DMC's comments after the game

Were you a fan of Cousins' post-game comments?


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HndsmCelt

Hall of Famer
#61
#63
Coaches may do that, but George Karl hasn't done it. Played him? Brought him along? No, just no. The only thing George Karl has done is get WCS to where he's going to prove his value in spite of his coach.

Sorry, but I'm not gonna let George Karl get any credit on this. He hasn't earned it and he doesn't deserve it.
Totally agree! Karl gets little to no credit for Cauley-Stein's development. Karl has stuck Cauley-Stein on the bench all season and refused to play him for any meaningful minutes outside of five minutes here or there.

To be honest, Calipari plays a part in this too with Cauley-Stein's days in Kentucky. I'm not saying it was a bad thing, that was the system. He was the team's best defender and rebounder so that was his role. He was never given a chance to show any offensive skills so no one really knew he had them.

Bottom line is that we may have something special here. Outside of Cauley-Stein's defense and rebounding which we knew he had and will continue to get better, his offensive game is already light years ahead of where many thought he could ever get to. For the rest of the season I would like to see him get more touches to see what he can do.
 
#64
This is more than just an interesting tidbit article. You have to contrast Demarcus supporting his teammates with his coach minimizing their performance to the Press. Then ask yourself who's the team guy and who is the cancer that needs to go?
Karl is gone and I think the players know that, perhaps officially. Something over the last few games has brought these players together, you can see it in their play, win or lose, they are inspired. Something has changed behind the scenes, let's hope that we don't win too much and lose that draft pick, but it would be nice to carry this into the offseason as well.
 

Glenn

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#65
If you draft a player like Willie and he is capable playing like this on offense, but all season long his minutes are down and he is clearly hesitating to even attempting something on the offensive end, it just shows me, that the coach is doing a bad job on his rookie. This team needs every bit of talent, but all season we saw Boogie trying to shoulder a way too big load. Why on earth would you waste all this raw offensive potential until the season is almost over?
I didn't believe that Willie could do those things. But I have to admit that Bajaden was spot on with his believe, that our Rookie is a way better offensive player as he has shown.
And it makes me angry. All year we should have watched Willie being aggressive, using this solid hook and his quick first step on offense.
Instead we saw a young player passing on shots and being just a bystander on offense, while his so called coach was talking about rookie mistakes.

Unbelievable how incompetent an experienced NBA coach can be.
Karl has delegated a lot of his practices to his assistants. He probably doesn't/didn't have a clue that WCS had offensive skills. It seems like when your head coach can't physically do the complete job, he isn't doing what he is paid to do. I supposedly am not more clever than Karl but the first time Willie swished a 12 footer with beautiful form, I just said "wow, this is a sign of things to come." Now he has a little hook and a fall away jump shot. Perhaps the hook can occasionally be stopped but who on this planet can stop a 7 footer with a fall away jump shot?
 
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VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#66
Karl is gone and I think the players know that, perhaps officially. Something over the last few games has brought these players together, you can see it in their play, win or lose, they are inspired. Something has changed behind the scenes, let's hope that we don't win too much and lose that draft pick, but it would be nice to carry this into the offseason as well.
No way to know for sure, but remember what WCS said about the fans and how being booed in STA really hit some of the players. I think it hit Vlade, too, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was just a meeting of the minds, so to speak, about the fans, what they deserve, what message the players want to send to the fans, etc.
 

Glenn

Hall of Famer
#67
No way to know for sure, but remember what WCS said about the fans and how being booed in STA really hit some of the players. I think it hit Vlade, too, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if there was just a meeting of the minds, so to speak, about the fans, what they deserve, what message the players want to send to the fans, etc.
I think this along with the news that Karl was asked to resign hit about the same time. 1) we seem to have drafted a level headed team leader-type person and 2) everyone now publicly knows the team from owner on down wants Karl gone. It is liberating. Nothing Karl says now needs be taken seriously. It must feel like a breath of fresh air to the players.
 
#69
Blatt is at the top of my list as well.
I've been following him for over 10 years (in Israel, Europe & the Russian national team) -
No one I know is better in maxing players' skills and developing young talents.
BTW, until he came to the NBA, Blatt was considered a defensive coach ( a defensive genius, even).
No he is a defensive genius that cavs defense last year was the reason they overcame injuries and took 2 games from GS. Also cavs fans say there defense took off last year when Blatt took over the defense from Lue. After Blatts firing there defense has taken 2 steps back.


I WANT BLATT
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#70
No he is a defensive genius that cavs defense last year was the reason they overcame injuries and took 2 games from GS. Also cavs fans say there defense took off last year when Blatt took over the defense from Lue. After Blatts firing there defense has taken 2 steps back.


I WANT BLATT

These sorts of big names are not impossible.

Thibs knows and likes Cousins. Has spoken highly of WCS. Has coached Rondo to a title. Has coached Bels.

Blatt has an international resume and our GM and owner are both international flavor hounds. He may also know Omri.
 
#71
Yeah....that erases everything negative stuff that he has done over the 6 blissful years here.
We could say the same of all negative nancies that patrol this site on a daily basis (not to mention certain sportswriters). Of course, when they do it, they think they are speaking the truth. Well, so does DeMarcus when he behaves as he does. Lots of hypocritical people out there .....
 
#72
If Karl wants to call out players in the media, then he himself has set the tone to discuss how everyone feels about each other in public. To me, it's whinny and small to diminish your players accomplishments because their success proves you were wrong.

I can't understand this mentality that Karl is their boss, therefore the players must endure whatever he dishes out. Karl doesn't have to be professional, but the players do because they are subordinates? Karl does not own the players, nor is he their parent.
This is life. You don't get to pick your boss. Go ahead. Go against your boss and see what happens in real life. In life there will always be challenges and things you may think are unfair. Especially if you are the kind of person who looks for those things. Either you make lemonade or you live a sour life. So this team needs to decide who the boss is. Make Cousins the boss. I won't object. Support the boss. Don't undermine him.
 
#73
This is more than just an interesting tidbit article. You have to contrast Demarcus supporting his teammates with his coach minimizing their performance to the Press. Then ask yourself who's the team guy and who is the cancer that needs to go?
The cancer is the guy undermining the boss. Even if he is nice to the other people he needs to get the job done.
 
#75
This is life. You don't get to pick your boss. Go ahead. Go against your boss and see what happens in real life. In life there will always be challenges and things you may think are unfair. Especially if you are the kind of person who looks for those things. Either you make lemonade or you live a sour life. So this team needs to decide who the boss is. Make Cousins the boss. I won't object. Support the boss. Don't undermine him.

Nah. I'm the type of guy to take action if I'm in an untenable situation. "In real life" I walk away and find a new job if I have a boss that is trying to destroy my career. If my boss were doing the things Karl is doing, I might just take it to HR as well.

As far as NBA life goes, they have a contract that they can't walk away from. A job so specialized, that you can't walk away and pick up elsewhere. But as a grown man, you still must protect yourself and your career. When your "boss" is disparaging you in public and affecting your career, you must act. Cousins acted and defended his teammates. Karl did the wrong thing. Cousins helped his teammates who don't have as much clout as him.

Coach is just a job title. You still have earn the role of leader. All these individuals on the team are high performers at their craft. They're not going to tolerate an underperforming Coach.
 
#76
So, given that he shopped DMC behind Vlade's back this summer, you admit that Karl is a cancer?
So Cousins got shopped. Like Cousins had no part in it. Cousins did nothing to warrant it? He is blameless right? So he got shopped. It's not the end of the world. Water under the bridge. Why are you bringing it up?
 

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
#77
So Cousins got shopped. Like Cousins had no part in it. Cousins did nothing to warrant it? He is blameless right? So he got shopped. It's not the end of the world. Water under the bridge. Why are you bringing it up?
He's bringing it up because it's relevant to what's gone on to get things to this point. And the other real point? COACHES DON'T SHOP PLAYERS!!
 
#78
Nah. I'm the type of guy to take action if I'm in an untenable situation. "In real life" I walk away and find a new job if I have a boss that is trying to destroy my career. If my boss were doing the things Karl is doing, I might just take it to HR as well.

As far as NBA life goes, they have a contract that they can't walk away from. A job so specialized, that you can't walk away and pick up elsewhere. But as a grown man, you still must protect yourself and your career. When your "boss" is disparaging you in public and affecting your career, you must act. Cousins acted and defended his teammates. Karl did the wrong thing. Cousins helped his teammates who don't have as much clout as him.

Coach is just a job title. You still have earn the role of leader. All these individuals on the team are high performers at their craft. They're not going to tolerate an underperforming Coach.
Good luck. Maybe you need to start your own business. Your rep will be difficult to overcome. What happened here that was so bad? Did someone get forced to clean toilets or something? Or worse? Come on now.
 

kingsboi

Hall of Famer
#81
This is life. You don't get to pick your boss. Go ahead. Go against your boss and see what happens in real life. In life there will always be challenges and things you may think are unfair. Especially if you are the kind of person who looks for those things. Either you make lemonade or you live a sour life. So this team needs to decide who the boss is. Make Cousins the boss. I won't object. Support the boss. Don't undermine him.
Why not just be your own boss?
 

kingsboi

Hall of Famer
#82
So, given that he shopped DMC behind Vlade's back this summer, you admit that Karl is a cancer?
Karl didn't shop Cousins. He has no front office role, therefore he had no say in anything going on. He can make a suggestion to Vlade but he and Vlade didn't see eye to eye on that and that's where it left off.
 
#85
This is life. You don't get to pick your boss. Go ahead. Go against your boss and see what happens in real life. In life there will always be challenges and things you may think are unfair. Especially if you are the kind of person who looks for those things. Either you make lemonade or you live a sour life. So this team needs to decide who the boss is. Make Cousins the boss. I won't object. Support the boss. Don't undermine him.
this sad, compliant worker bee metaphor you've constructed is so ridiculously divorced from nba reality...
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#86
This has become worse than family court and I am not taking sides. I am just hoping for a very high turnover this off- season.
Not sure that is either necessary nor wise.

The agitant has increasingly crystallized on one side of the whistle. You could probably keep the exact same roster, bring in the right coach, and not only eliminate most of the drama, but also get much better results.
 
#87
Nothing wrong with that. Maybe Cousins should buy a team.
Ditto, for Karl. Cousins isn't perfect and he's not a saint but I don't understand your defense of a coach who throws his players under the bus. Even when they did good and this isn't his first stop where he has done this. Cousins gave support and went to the defense a young man that is trying to make it in the league. If your getting marginalized by your boss, wouldn't you appreciate the support of your co-workers?
 

Bricklayer

Don't Make Me Use The Bat
#88
Look, in industries with "stars", with highly valuable uniquely skilled employees? yes, people absolutely do often get to pick their boss, or at least get one fired they don't like. All comes down to value in the end. If you are a drone, then the boss is likely more valuable, and to get rid of them you would have to plant farm animal porn in their desk and slip an anonymous note under the door of a high up muckety muck. But if you are a star, a rare and sought after commodity? That boss better learn to kiss your ass in a hurry unless they are stars themselves.

What's quite clear right now is that Karl is done, and that Boogie is looking after this as HIS team, as HIS guys. He's their leader and mother hen (which BTW is great to see from your superstar). Karl is the one on the outs. Cuz is practically lifting his leg and peeing all over the lockerroom.

I am reminded of a closing scene in an old Conan movie (the 2nd sucky one), where the young queen wants to bestow honors on Conan's companions, including asking them to join her court in various posts. And each time she asks one of them to join, they first look to Conan to get his nod of approval before accepting. We may see that with Cuz and substitutions soon. :p
 
#89
Not sure that is either necessary nor wise.

The agitant has increasingly crystallized on one side of the whistle. You could probably keep the exact same roster, bring in the right coach, and not only eliminate most of the drama, but also get much better results.
I really, really hope that you are correct and the answer could be as simple as a coaching change.


But I doubt it.