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LWP777
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You obviously have no clue about the game of basketball. You will also go on my IGNORE list! Good riddance!
Demarcus Freaking Cousins
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You obviously have no clue about the game of basketball. You will also go on my IGNORE list! Good riddance!
This troll has been here YEARS longer than you!
Why don't you just change the website to webberfans.com because anything anyone says against webber is blasphemy........
Webber is gone people and he was not good!
Why don't you just change the website to webberfans.com because anything anyone says against webber is blasphemy........
Webber is gone people and he was not good!
joemama, you've now derailed a thread about Demarcus Cousins with your personal opinion of Chris Webber. I am going to ask you, once, to stop.
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LWP777
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Thank you Slim
bajaden
Hall of Famer
Sorry to jump in so late, but your wrong. Go back and look at Webb's first three years and compare them to Cousins. Very similiar in fact, stat wise. Webb had a little better assist totals per game. Don't forget, that when Webb came to the Kings, it was his 6th year in the league, and he was 25 years old. This is Cousins 3rd year in the league. Of course Webb was a far more athletic player, so there are differences between the two. Plus Webb was a PF and hated playing center, while Cousins is more of a center at 270 pounds that can play some PF. So its apples and oranges to some degree.
Go back and look at their stats again. Webber was way more efficient that Cousins. It isn't how many points you score it is how many shots it take you score those points.
This forum drastically undervalues efficiency, especially with regards to Cousins. His efficiency numbers are pitiful for a guard, much less a 6'11 270 big man who should dominate the paint. It's a serious issue, especially considering how much of our offense he uses.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
Look, I'm getting into an argument over who is better or has the most potential. Webber is Webber and Cousins is Cousins. Two different players, and it wasn't I that compared the two. No one denies that Cousins biggest problem is his field goal percentage. No doubt he needs to get better in that area. Also remember, that when Webb came out of college, almost all of his game was in the post, and he didn't have the jumpshot like he did later. Cousins plays away from the basket more than Webb did early in his career. The minute you become a jumpshooter, your going to shoot a lower percentage than if you play mostly in the post. However, I'm not making an excuse for Cousins poor percentage. It needs to improve.
This isn't a black and white issue with me. Cousins has a lot of potential. Whether he ever max's that potential is anyone's guess. But if he does, I'd rather it be with us than someone else. You can disagree, and thats fine. Its what makes the world go round.
blackice
G-League
These last three games, we have been seeing a more composed approach to the game by Cousins. However, he needs to be a consistent threat and I hope he understands he doesn't only need to score to make an impact, now...we do need his scoring, don't get me wrong but its all about composure.
I don't think Demarcus takes more jumpers than Webber did through the first 170 games (which is where DMC is), through 217 games Webber shot 344 threes making 114 of them for 33%. I know that DMC takes more mid range jumpers but that is mostly because he lacks the athleticism and foot work that Webber had.
I am not saying that DMC won't be as good of player as Webber. Fact is, I don't know. I just don't think that he has shown that he has that type of talent.
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LWP777
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This is why I love you Baja!
I agree. Being able to disagree on a subject is and still be respectful is a valuable asset in life.
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LWP777
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Indeed. It just seems like everybody gets all crazy around here when they disagree about things. Plus, it's only basketball for God's sake!
Glenn
Hall of Famer
I think he needs to touch the ball more and then have the judgment to pass or shoot. He can't give an assist if no one throws him the ball in the fiorst place and with three chucker guards, it's difficult for him to get the ball. There were like three plays in a row where IT didn't pass to anyone. Whether he made them or not is not the issue. There are other players who need to learn this lesson.
This may bring sqwacks, but I think Jimmer is more selective in whether to pass or shoot and I am sure there are times when Smart just tells him to shoot. I hate the term basketball IQ, but Jimmer seems to be higher than IT and Brooks.
CruzDude
Senior Member sharing a brew with bajaden
In his most recent interview Cousins discussed sharing the ball as a way to win games more than his own production. He said he's willing to sacrifice his own shooting (for more assists) if it helps to win games, Which it has. If he shows leadership with 15-20/10/6 every night they should win more games especially as he is also fouling less. BUT..... I want him to use the jump hook more when down low. Then I'll be really happy (happy now cautiously).
Kingster
Hall of Famer
So are we to understand that Cousins will continue to sacrifice his shooting for more assists indefinitely? Or, are we to understand that if the Kings lose five in a row that he will stop the focus on assists because it's not helping to win games?
He has been shooting more the last 4 games (16 a game) that his season average (14.9 per game).
William Blake
Bench
He also played more minutes than usual. To make a sensible comparison you need per minute numbers, which are:
Last 4 - 0,48 FGA\min
Rest of the season - 0,48 FGA\min
No he didn't sacrifice any shots, but he didn't take more either.
He has also been getting more assists the last four games (5.8 per game) than his season average (2.6 per game). If you assume his passes are being converted to assists at a 65% rate (probably generous) that means he's passing the ball 5 times per game more than he was before just to account for the assists. 5 more passes that he makes is 5 more shots he didn't take, so yes, that would count as sacrificing his shooting for assists.
Edit: kudos to William Blake for looking up the per-minute numbers, which is another factor being left out of Liam's equation.
HereWeBoogie
Hall of Famer
Cousins should be player of the week if he keeps it up
There is no doubt that he is making an effort to pass more. He is doing a better job of passing to people in positions to score. I don't know how you can say that he is sacrificing his shots. He isn't. He is shooting the same amount of shots per minute and taking more shots overall. With how inefficient his offensive game is he should look to pass more if the King's are to win games.
Tetsujin
The Game Thread Dude
Part of that has to do with MT and Reke being out. Demarcus is getting the ball more (which I prefer, considering the alternative) and still taking the same amount of shots so in a sense, yes he is sacrificing his shots.
UK_King
Starter
Lets be honest with Reke out DMC should have touch the ball every time down the floor, espeically at the high post. I don't mind seeing IT/Brooks having the ball as long as they're running the Pick and roll with cuz.
seeing cuz take pride in getting more assists is a great sign, but the test will be when he picks up a couple of early fouls and his shot isn't falling, will he keep his head or blow up and start forcing.
seeing cuz take pride in getting more assists is a great sign, but the test will be when he picks up a couple of early fouls and his shot isn't falling, will he keep his head or blow up and start forcing.
