Does that mean you are predicting an all-star birth for fox?
ohwwww snap!
DeAaron Fox
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ohwwww snap!
Kingsfan23
All-Star
Not about sprinting, but “imprinting the game.” Making plays, dictating the game for the full duration, not peaks/valleys.
But, the point you may be trying to convey, that he has an extra gear in the 4th, can’t physically play like that all game, and may be choosing his spots, IMO has some merit now that I think of it.
Still, I may prefer him to even that out a bit if that’s what’s happening
Chupacabra
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Fox's on-ball defense in big moments has been outstanding. Did everyone see what he did to Conley towards the end of the Memphis game?
That was as good as it gets an quite frankly I’m surprised they didn’t call a foul.
Ozymandias
All-Star
I'll just say this, if you watched Fox in college it seemed like he should've gotten more FT's too. this season he should be getting 2½- 3½ more ft's per game.... I believe there's a 'Fox has such a physical advantage the refs are having issues calling it fairly, like Shaq' effect;
He's so explosive and his body control is elite, he makes these awesome picturesque drives chaining dribble moves at high speeds that literally everyone in the building and watching at home can see, he makes it look too easy and the foul on clear as day contact doesnt get called.. Him being skinny doesn't help the optics of this either.
i'd definitely say it happens on both ends they don't wanna grant him too much leeway defensively either, especially cheap bump fouls because he's really capable of staying with these players at high speeds in super close quarters, almost chest-to-chest, he's the quickest 6'4" guard you'll probably ever see at that....
It will change. De'Aaron will average near 10 FTA's per game in his prime, some extra strength is gonna help., the indicator to watch is his FTA's on the road, right now he's drawing 6.4 FTA's at home and 5.1 on the road, probably not a coincidence...
In Boxing there's a saying "to be the champ you've gotta beat the champ" and it's a nice way of saying your ass better hope you win in convincing fashion cuz if it goes to the scorecards and its too close they are gonna favor the guy everyone knows over the no-names. In the NBA there's this sort of thing but it's more like a youth vetting process, there is also an art to drawing FT's and Fox will improve at it a lot ot over the years too.
James Harden's first 3 seasons FTA's; 3.2, 4.2, 6.0.... I'll leave it at that
Years from now many crocodile tears will be shed by opposing fans about the Fouls Fox gets.
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Kingsfan23
All-Star
If De’aaron is picking his spots, if, he needs to focus more on the beginning of the game IMO. We’ve been going through slumps pretty consistently to start for weeks. Our defense as a whole has been bad certainly, but that’s when the offensive spoke/tone is set, as well. De’aaron has picked it up as the game has went on, but the quarterback needs to set that initial tone
kingsfan1984
Starter
What's going on with Foxs shoulder?
Agent23
Starter
He has a stinger he picked up from the Mavs game. Lakers were targeting his shoulder the whole game on screens specifically Tyson Chandler. Nothing malicious, just physical basketball. Another off season of getting stronger will fix that
Sactown ExPat
Starter
I mean, Steven Adams could fix that right now. Go after Russ like that and see what happens. Wish we had that type of player.
Ozymandias
All-Star
Josh HArt was targeting the shoulder too, thats why Joerger got a tech - the play he was arguing about was blatant and bordering on a non-basketball play but went completely uncalled.
bajaden
Hall of Famer
Yep, spot on! It's one thing for the ref's to make him earn his spurs, so to speak, but it's another to let him get beat up. He should be going to the line at least 5 more times a game if the ref's would just make the call.
Sac.Kings
All-Star
I agree. Fox hasn’t been shooting good percentages lately because a significant portion of the shots he “misses” are actually fouls that never get called. The disrespect he gets from the refs when he drives is ridiculous.
Agent23
Starter
He’a getting clobbered out there. When “he who shall not be named on the Mavs” is going to the line 10-12 a game as of recently. So the whole he’s gotta earn his chops is silly when a rookie is getting to the line more than he is.
Kingster
Hall of Famer
I agree about the Fox non-calls. That said, I think that if Fox would on drives just "stop" in the paint and fake a shot he'd have to get a ton of calls. His defenders are totally off balance because of his speed and I think they'd just run up his back in those situations. It's truly an advantage when you can go 80% of top speed and everybody else has to go 100% to keep up. With the passage of time, I expect Fox to have all kind of "tricks" to garner fouls, which will make him even harder to guard.
The Kings need a big player that can lower the boom on someone. If the other team is roughing up our point guard. Someone needs to step up and let them know they need to knock it off. Willie will never be able to do what Herrell, Adams, Chandler, Horford and plenty of other 5s can do.
FoxOnTheRun
G-League
I'm right there with you, I'm looking back on that play where Harrell stood over Frank Mason after that block the other night... Skal should of said f*** it and leveled his ***. One thing I always loved about Cousins, he never let his teammates get punked on like that.
Yes he is getting to many non calls and it seems they are targeting him coming into the paint with very little reprise from the refs or his teammates.
He is still learning and should be really scary good next season. Even if he does what Bogi does which is drive and slow down in the paint causing his pursuer to run into him while he takes that shot.
He adds that little kink and then the interior defense is forced to make more defensive decisions. Lately the opposing opponent big is moving to intercept him then backs off a little to try and stop the lob.
If he gets hammered by a guard its easy to send a message by the hard pick next time down. If it’s a big then its up to our bigs to send the message and I am not really seeing a toughness right now.
He is still learning and should be really scary good next season. Even if he does what Bogi does which is drive and slow down in the paint causing his pursuer to run into him while he takes that shot.
He adds that little kink and then the interior defense is forced to make more defensive decisions. Lately the opposing opponent big is moving to intercept him then backs off a little to try and stop the lob.
If he gets hammered by a guard its easy to send a message by the hard pick next time down. If it’s a big then its up to our bigs to send the message and I am not really seeing a toughness right now.
Pizzaguy93
G-League
Harry might not have the body to be our bruiser yet but I think he's got the mind for it. Absolutely strikes me as the type to take a couple hockey fouls to send a message
(Provided he was bigger and stronger than the other guy)
Dime Dropper
All-Star
Dime Dropper
All-Star
If you say so. I'd hardly call myself irrational when it comes to Cuz, unless by irrational you mean "not willing to look past every flaw and having a desire for the team to try something different" (look where that's gotten us!). You want to talk about irrational go fire up the thread where people didn't want to trade Cousins for Miami Heat LeBron James. If Slim can be pedantic about everything under the sun I can be pedantic about facts regarding Cousins.
FoxOnTheRun
G-League
Got a chance to chat with Fox for a sec before warmups last night. I asked him if his shoulder was cool and he said it was just bruised, nothing major just that he's been hit in the same spot a couple times.
Kingsfan23
All-Star
He’s not been the same player over the last stretch, and is mirroring the fast start/mediocre middle of the season of last year (though better than last year, to be sure). To me it’s either a consistent/intensity issue, which can be innate and thus concerning, or hopefully his body at this point needs to be strengthened to compete balls out for a season
macadocious
Starter
He’s been hesitant in the middle of games recently
SLAB
Hall of Famer
Man... there’s always a stretch per game when he just blows by the competition a few times. But also remaining more passive than we’re used to outside of that.
I think he’s a little more banged up than he’s letting on. Not “playing through/hiding an injury” or anything like that, but definitely hurting and it’s effecting his game.
I think he’s a little more banged up than he’s letting on. Not “playing through/hiding an injury” or anything like that, but definitely hurting and it’s effecting his game.
