D.Williams is a terrible teammate.

#61
We've given up on lottery picks fast as well. There's two reasons you give up on a player and that's if they don't have the talent or if they have a bad attitude. We have zero proof of him not caring or having a bad attitude. That's all just hearsay because you THINK he's supposed to be better than he is and if he isn't meeting your expectations, then he must be lazy and just not care.

D-Will made a career out of one good year in college. He shot almost 60% from the field and beyond the arc. He never did it before that year and he's never been able to duplicate it after either. He's a simple case of an athletic guy with marginal talent that just got hot one year and built a career out of it. You think he's like "You know what, I don't care if my shot goes in or not. Sure I can shoot like Steve Kerr if I wanted to...but I just don't feel like shooting that well anymore"? Come on, get real here. He's a streaky player who can either give you nothing or look like a starting SF in the league. Kind of like JT was before he all the sudden became a good defender 7 years into his career.
Well it really isn't what I THINK, its what PDA and the Front Office think. When he is packaged with whomever at the trade deadline I think it will answer any lingering questions.
 
#62
OR we just decline his option and enjoy the cap flexibility. We are in a good position going forward with our core locked up and plenty of youth developing nicely. We only owe one draft pick but remember those high picks still cost money so silver lining to that is again the cap space.
 
#63
I think its weird the day I start this thread D Will starts to have his head into the game. Finished the game with the starters today. Hope he doesn't fall off again.
I think what was going on, is that it appeared that he was being phony and "disengaged" in his happy go lucky thing at the end of the bench. He wasn't really focused in on team strategy during timeouts...etc etc.

If he starts playing with noticeable passion and fire and stays focused on what we're doing with our play sets and what not, then he can dance around with Moreland to his hearts desire...and probably won't get any criticism for it.

I hope he figures it out, because he does have a lot of talent potential. Again, the question and challenge is the mental aspect
 
#66
Thing is that this guy has all the athleticism in the world. If he hustles like this, he is a potent NBA Player. Had a few mistakes on D though. If he is focused on D and able to develop a consistent outside shot, he has some real value as an 3&D guy for any team.
 
#67
Thing is that this guy has all the athleticism in the world. If he hustles like this, he is a potent NBA Player. Had a few mistakes on D though. If he is focused on D and able to develop a consistent outside shot, he has some real value as an 3&D guy for any team.
This. It seems like it is all about hustle and drive. He has so much talent but if he isn't engaged, he isn't going to do a darn thing. All of the nights he's flashed his potential, it's been because of his tenacity towards getting to to the rim, crashing the boards, breaking out after a rebound for a fast break.

There has to be a way to muster up that motivation each night. If he can figure that out, then he can be a great player.
 

Bricklayer

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#69
then he can be a great player.
Can't go that far. He can be a useful player who can stay in the NBA. But his talent, such as it is, is often overstated I think going back to him having one freakish 30 game college season where he shot college threes at a high level. Most of the talent he has displayed at any other time comes down to being a good athlete. He's not a particularly good shooter. He's not a good ballhandler. He doesn't have any length or power or instincts defensively. When he comes in and attacks the way he did here he can make an impact, but really it wasn't much more than just throwing his athleticism at the problem. And that can work, if you can do that every night you can be a pain. But that's not enough to be a great player.
 
#70
Thing is that this guy has all the athleticism in the world. If he hustles like this, he is a potent NBA Player. Had a few mistakes on D though. If he is focused on D and able to develop a consistent outside shot, he has some real value as an 3&D guy for any team.
I was thinking about this again after last night's game. It seems with him, that a lot of his best games, in a lot of ways comes down to "fortunate" bounces of the ball. In other words he gets going, like he did last night, if he happens to get an ideal bounce off the rim that he can grab and hammer dunk...or at other times last season, when someone makes a great lob pass to him. It seems that he transforms to another energy level if some things "line up" for him and he can get his "hands on the rim".

On the other hand, what usually happens, is the ball is not happening to end up in the perfect place for him to get going...and then at that point he doesn't have enough game or whatever that extra something is, to figure out a way to be very valuable to the team and generate a very consistent aggressive energy level. It seems we only see his fire and passion come out, if he's dunking
 
#71
He is a terrible teammate, have you read this story from the video?
Derrick Williams greeted his teammates at the door. "Thank you guys for coming! There's nothing better than chilling with all my friends!"

A large group of Sacramento Kings players followed him into the house. "So, where's the party?" Ramon Sessions asked, looking around for other visitors to Derrick's abode.

"Oh, it's just going to be us tonight," Derrick answered. "A more intimate gathering, if you will."

"Well, when you said 'Party' on the invitation, I thought it would be more like, you know, a party. Not a chill-out sesh," Ramon said.

"We're going down to the basement," Derrick explained, ignoring Ramon's complaints. "That's where the fun stuff is." He led his teammates down a flight of stairs to an unlit room, or rooms. It was too dark to see; the assorted Kings waited blindly in the darkness for Derrick to turn on the lights.

After a minutes' waiting, hearing Derrick fumbling around in the darkness, Reggie Evans announced. "Screw this noise. I'm getting out my phone so we can find the lightswitch."

"No you're not!" Derrick shouted with such urgency that Reggie immediately dropped his phone back into his pocket. "The surprise needs to be maintained!"

"What surpri-" Reggie began to ask, before an unbearable racket began to emanate from unseen speakers around the walls. Simultaneously, an elaborate lightning system rigged from the ceiling began to pulsate and strobe.

"It's his dubstep!" Rudy Gay yelled in explanation as his teammates covered their ears and winced. "He's always tricking people into listening to it and it sucks!"

At the far end of the room, Derrick stood on a raised platform, surrounded by at least ten laptops. Somehow, in the confusion of the darkness, he had changed his clothes to match those of a mad scientist. Now, he flailed his arms and bent his torso in a primitive imitation of dance, jumping all around his makeshift stage. As a backdrop to this demented display, a row of server racks lined the back wall, also flashing a myriad of colors. Network cables connected the whole thing in a jumble of wires, and it was from these servers that the algorithms composing Derrick's dubstep did their heinous computations. Derrick was only intermittently visible as the lights around him flashed at a seizure-inducing speed.

"We have to get out of here!" Rudy yelled in a panic, trying to find the door they had entered through. However, it was not there; the doorway had been replaced with a smooth steel panel.

"There is no escape from Professor Dubbenstein's Dungeon!" Derrick yelled into a microphone as Rudy beat his fists feebly against the exit. His words echoed menacingly, distorted by some kind of post-processor to sound utterly alien. "I welcome you to your prison of beats, where your chains are fashioned from my sick drops and your cages from brutal wubs!"

All around them, the raucous noise continued unabated. One by one, the Kings players slumped to the ground, knocked unconscious by the heavy wubs and ear-piecing bleeps. There would be no escape for them.
 
#72
This. It seems like it is all about hustle and drive. He has so much talent but if he isn't engaged, he isn't going to do a darn thing. All of the nights he's flashed his potential, it's been because of his tenacity towards getting to to the rim, crashing the boards, breaking out after a rebound for a fast break.
There has to be a way to muster up that motivation each night. If he can figure that out, then he can be a great player.
Williams is a fundamentally flawed player. Doesn't rebound and has no length inside, so that pretty much settles him as SF. Kings were not totally murdered, because that were softy Raptors, they were just strangled gently. Try that with strong inside team, and Kings will be murdered. Now at SF Williams is not a great ballhandler, shot needs a lot of work, what Derrick has is on a good day he's able to pick up a bunch of hustle points around the basket and for that he needs loose paint area, not clogged one, you see most of the time, that Kings play. So basically he could use a team with perimeter-oriented offense, that has a place for a guy, whose main skill is getting a bunch of points without helping much elsewhere. Raptors have Johnson in a similar role, and this guy can actually defend. Wizards?
 
#73
Williams is a fundamentally flawed player. Doesn't rebound and has no length inside, so that pretty much settles him as SF. Kings were not totally murdered, because that were softy Raptors, they were just strangled gently. Try that with strong inside team, and Kings will be murdered. Now at SF Williams is not a great ballhandler, shot needs a lot of work, what Derrick has is on a good day he's able to pick up a bunch of hustle points around the basket and for that he needs loose paint area, not clogged one, you see most of the time, that Kings play. So basically he could use a team with perimeter-oriented offense, that has a place for a guy, whose main skill is getting a bunch of points without helping much elsewhere. Raptors have Johnson in a similar role, and this guy can actually defend. Wizards?
Wizards have Rasual Butler with great shooting and hustle to fill this role. Don't need Dwill right now.
 
#74
He is a terrible teammate, have you read this story from the video?
Derrick Williams greeted his teammates at the door. "Thank you guys for coming! There's nothing better than chilling with all my friends!"

A large group of Sacramento Kings players followed him into the house. "So, where's the party?" Ramon Sessions asked, looking around for other visitors to Derrick's abode.

"Oh, it's just going to be us tonight," Derrick answered. "A more intimate gathering, if you will."

"Well, when you said 'Party' on the invitation, I thought it would be more like, you know, a party. Not a chill-out sesh," Ramon said.

"We're going down to the basement," Derrick explained, ignoring Ramon's complaints. "That's where the fun stuff is." He led his teammates down a flight of stairs to an unlit room, or rooms. It was too dark to see; the assorted Kings waited blindly in the darkness for Derrick to turn on the lights.

After a minutes' waiting, hearing Derrick fumbling around in the darkness, Reggie Evans announced. "Screw this noise. I'm getting out my phone so we can find the lightswitch."

"No you're not!" Derrick shouted with such urgency that Reggie immediately dropped his phone back into his pocket. "The surprise needs to be maintained!"

"What surpri-" Reggie began to ask, before an unbearable racket began to emanate from unseen speakers around the walls. Simultaneously, an elaborate lightning system rigged from the ceiling began to pulsate and strobe.

"It's his dubstep!" Rudy Gay yelled in explanation as his teammates covered their ears and winced. "He's always tricking people into listening to it and it sucks!"

At the far end of the room, Derrick stood on a raised platform, surrounded by at least ten laptops. Somehow, in the confusion of the darkness, he had changed his clothes to match those of a mad scientist. Now, he flailed his arms and bent his torso in a primitive imitation of dance, jumping all around his makeshift stage. As a backdrop to this demented display, a row of server racks lined the back wall, also flashing a myriad of colors. Network cables connected the whole thing in a jumble of wires, and it was from these servers that the algorithms composing Derrick's dubstep did their heinous computations. Derrick was only intermittently visible as the lights around him flashed at a seizure-inducing speed.

"We have to get out of here!" Rudy yelled in a panic, trying to find the door they had entered through. However, it was not there; the doorway had been replaced with a smooth steel panel.

"There is no escape from Professor Dubbenstein's Dungeon!" Derrick yelled into a microphone as Rudy beat his fists feebly against the exit. His words echoed menacingly, distorted by some kind of post-processor to sound utterly alien. "I welcome you to your prison of beats, where your chains are fashioned from my sick drops and your cages from brutal wubs!"

All around them, the raucous noise continued unabated. One by one, the Kings players slumped to the ground, knocked unconscious by the heavy wubs and ear-piecing bleeps. There would be no escape for them.
Derrick is a little weird and scary that I almost believed the story until I read the last 4-5 paragraphs....
 
#75
He is a terrible teammate, have you read this story from the video?
Derrick Williams greeted his teammates at the door. "Thank you guys for coming! There's nothing better than chilling with all my friends!"

A large group of Sacramento Kings players followed him into the house. "So, where's the party?" Ramon Sessions asked, looking around for other visitors to Derrick's abode.

"Oh, it's just going to be us tonight," Derrick answered. "A more intimate gathering, if you will."

"Well, when you said 'Party' on the invitation, I thought it would be more like, you know, a party. Not a chill-out sesh," Ramon said.

"We're going down to the basement," Derrick explained, ignoring Ramon's complaints. "That's where the fun stuff is." He led his teammates down a flight of stairs to an unlit room, or rooms. It was too dark to see; the assorted Kings waited blindly in the darkness for Derrick to turn on the lights.

After a minutes' waiting, hearing Derrick fumbling around in the darkness, Reggie Evans announced. "Screw this noise. I'm getting out my phone so we can find the lightswitch."

"No you're not!" Derrick shouted with such urgency that Reggie immediately dropped his phone back into his pocket. "The surprise needs to be maintained!"

"What surpri-" Reggie began to ask, before an unbearable racket began to emanate from unseen speakers around the walls. Simultaneously, an elaborate lightning system rigged from the ceiling began to pulsate and strobe.

"It's his dubstep!" Rudy Gay yelled in explanation as his teammates covered their ears and winced. "He's always tricking people into listening to it and it sucks!"

At the far end of the room, Derrick stood on a raised platform, surrounded by at least ten laptops. Somehow, in the confusion of the darkness, he had changed his clothes to match those of a mad scientist. Now, he flailed his arms and bent his torso in a primitive imitation of dance, jumping all around his makeshift stage. As a backdrop to this demented display, a row of server racks lined the back wall, also flashing a myriad of colors. Network cables connected the whole thing in a jumble of wires, and it was from these servers that the algorithms composing Derrick's dubstep did their heinous computations. Derrick was only intermittently visible as the lights around him flashed at a seizure-inducing speed.

"We have to get out of here!" Rudy yelled in a panic, trying to find the door they had entered through. However, it was not there; the doorway had been replaced with a smooth steel panel.

"There is no escape from Professor Dubbenstein's Dungeon!" Derrick yelled into a microphone as Rudy beat his fists feebly against the exit. His words echoed menacingly, distorted by some kind of post-processor to sound utterly alien. "I welcome you to your prison of beats, where your chains are fashioned from my sick drops and your cages from brutal wubs!"

All around them, the raucous noise continued unabated. One by one, the Kings players slumped to the ground, knocked unconscious by the heavy wubs and ear-piecing bleeps. There would be no escape for them.
What... did I just read..?
 
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#78
If I'm coach Malone I'm telling Williams this "if you play hard and use your athletic at both ends for 15-20mins" a game I will leave you in the game regardless of the stupid shots or defensive lapses we know your going to have. Other than DMC there has not been another Kings this season have the kind of explosive quarters this guy has had (maybe Rudy had 1), some of the numbers and the impact have been ridiculous. If he can give energy and effort I'm prepared to live with the stupidity he will bring (which is a almost certain).
 
#79
If I'm coach Malone I'm telling Williams this "if you play hard and use your athletic at both ends for 15-20mins" a game I will leave you in the game regardless of the stupid shots or defensive lapses we know your going to have. Other than DMC there has not been another Kings this season have the kind of explosive quarters this guy has had (maybe Rudy had 1), some of the numbers and the impact have been ridiculous. If he can give energy and effort I'm prepared to live with the stupidity he will bring (which is a almost certain).
Totally agree. He's the kind of player that gets on a roll, when he has some trust that he won't be yanked out as soon as a mistake happens. A total momentum and mojo player. Gets a dunk here or there and suddenly starts shooting well.

We have to at least attempt to give him the opportunity to get back what he had going, before the Gay trade. It is possible