cuttino mobley cancer for the kings (merged)

  • Thread starter Thread starter godsthename
  • Start date Start date
We are just in a funk right now. It's not like we didn't compete for 48 minutes with the team with the best record in the league to get a bad call go the wrong way. It's not like we didn't play 47.5 minutes of good ball versus the Mavs not only to get robbed at the end of the game. The Nets game is the only aberation and maybe the Portland game over this period. Yes the points given up have been rediculous but we have been playing good ball for huge periods of the game. Sustaining it for 48 has been the problem lately. Cat has been good for the team for the most part I believe. The Kings on top of adding an important piece have had serious injuries over this time to go with this to get over on top of not ever practicing with each other.
 
After the Houston game, Peja, Webber were out and then Mobley and we haven't been healthy since. Peja only looked good for 1 game (sonics) and that's it. Webber looked alright for a bunch and Mobley still isn't 100% healthy or is he?
 
sometimes this board is the equivalent of a elementary school bathroom wall, do some of you even bother to check facts before posting such inane comments as "cuttino is a cancer"??? here's cat's numbers for the 17 games he's played w/the kings:

17.5 ppg, 3.7 apg (yea, real selfsish number there) 3.9 rpg, 1 spg, 46% 3PT FG, 79% FT.

yes you are right, he's horrible fit for this team, can't believe we gave up DC:

6.6 ppg, 2.4apg, 2.8 rpg, 2 spg, 24% 3PT FG ....

please.
 
bigbadred00 said:
Stojakovic it was 2 of 3 to the SPURS. You should mention that when you point to those games.
Click to expand...

Why's that ? We are an elite team aren't we, or are losses against the Spurs to be expected ?

Then you must also mention that the only impressive win in that streak was against the Wolves (who are also struggling this year). Two of those wins came against the Clippers and one against Portland...who are 23-30 and 21-30 respectively. The Wolves are also under .5 , being 26-27.
 
oh, and just for grins & giggles, since joining the kings, mobleys numbers IN EVERY STATISTICAL CATEGORY are up! points up, rebounding up, assists up ... but you're right, he just doesn't fit on this team.... grrrrr.
 
Stojakovic said:
Why's that ? We are an elite team aren't we, or are losses against the Spurs to be expected ?

Then you must also mention that the only impressive win in that streak was against the Wolves (who are also struggling this year). Two of those wins came against the Clippers and one against Portland...who are 23-30 and 21-30 respectively. The Wolves are also under .5 , being 26-27.
Click to expand...


uhhhh ... in case you haven't been watching we are NOT an elite team. The west's elite are Phoe, SA, and until last night Seattle.kings haven't earned that this season, and when you are in 6th place in the west, a game ahead of 7th, no, you are not elite.

when you get blown out on your home floor by the lakers, you are not elite. when you get blown out on your home floor by the spurs, you are note elite. when you get smoked by seattle you are not elite.
 
jeffjcalweb said:
sometimes this board is the equivalent of a elementary school bathroom wall, do some of you even bother to check facts before posting such inane comments as "cuttino is a cancer"??? here's cat's numbers for the 17 games he's played w/the kings:

17.5 ppg, 3.7 apg (yea, real selfsish number there) 3.9 rpg, 1 spg, 46% 3PT FG, 79% FT.

yes you are right, he's horrible fit for this team, can't believe we gave up DC:

6.6 ppg, 2.4apg, 2.8 rpg, 2 spg, 24% 3PT FG ....

please.
Click to expand...

Don't we all know that numbers can be thrown around as much as we like, but WINS is the only number that matters in the end. Unless you can dig up stats on how many picks are set and other off-the-ball yet very important plays, you just cannot compare Mobley and Christy on stats alone.
 
We were 9-3 before this stretch with Mobley. Thats 75% and those 3 losses were to the Spurs, and Sonics. But this last stretch against much lesser teams we have been A) Injured or B) Non-Defensive.
 
bigbadred00 said:
For the 3rd game in the series, webb was out, and the 4th game of the series peja was out. Do i Have to remind you.
Click to expand...

so what You saying is that Mobley is not that important in the big picture and he changes as much as DC did just in different way. I compleately agree with that.
 
jeffjcalweb said:
oh, and just for grins & giggles, since joining the kings, mobleys numbers IN EVERY STATISTICAL CATEGORY are up! points up, rebounding up, assists up ... but you're right, he just doesn't fit on this team.... grrrrr.
Click to expand...

Stats, stats, stats.

Stats don't tell the whole story. For example, I can think of 100 players in this league who can put up 17-18 points a game, but I can't think of even 10 players who could do the things that Doug Christie did for us.
 
what im saying is against the best team in the league we didn't have major players for most of the game. for a team that "isnt" very good according to you guys you expect us to beat the best team in the league short handed. if we aren't very good that would be impossible, right? so whats the big deal.
 
Honestly are we supposed to win against the Spurs without arguably our best player for 1 game and without one of our best players for another. I guess you expect that but I'm realistic. The 2nd game was a pretty good showing and if we turned on another gear we could have easily won that game. But things didn't do that way so be it. I was more disappointed at the Arco performance but that's another story. I hate giving excuses for losses but without having a major player against the best team in the league is a pretty good one.
 
bigbadred00 said:
what im saying is against the best team in the league we didn't have major players for most of the game. for a team that "isnt" very good according to you guys you expect us to beat the best team in the league short handed. if we aren't very good that would be impossible, right? so whats the big deal.
Click to expand...

Do you even read what I write ? Firstly, I never said we're not good. Secondly, you were the one who basically said it is expected that we lose to the Spurs, which I didn't exactly agree with.
 
Stojakovic said:
Stats, stats, stats.

Stats don't tell the whole story. For example, I can think of 100 players in this league who can put up 17-18 points a game, but I can't think of even 10 players who could do the things that Doug Christie did for us.
Click to expand...


ok bright eyes, list the 100 players in the nba currently putting up the same numbers as mobley. i eagerly await this list...
 
I don't expect to lose to the Spurs but it's pretty hard to win against the Spurs without major pieces for major minutes. I guess Barnes is a good backup but if you want to compare him to starting Peja than so be it. Same goes with Songalia for Webber. I love both Barnes and Songalia but right now there definitely bench guys and not starters for our team. I expect our team to lose against great teams without major players. I expect us to win versus good teams with all our players especially at home. I expected us to win versus the Mavs with the full squad same goes with that Sonics game and same goes with that Suns game. Things just didn't happen and for 2 of them I believe the game was out of our control. I expect the Kings to win all their games but if you want me to expect us to win without major pieces I can't.
 
Same thing goes though I don't expect the Spurs to beat a team like the Suns or the Sonics without TD, I don't expect the Suns to win any games without Nash and few without Amare, I don't expect the Sonics to beat a full lineup Kings team or a Suns team or a Spurs team without Ray or Rashard. I guess that's just how I am.
 
shocking there are currently 30 (oh 30 is less than 100 by the way) players who avg 17+ more points a game, now show me the list that puts up the same numbers as mobley, assits, rebounds, 3pt fg% ... that's what you said you have, 100 players who do the same thing as mobley... let's see it.

oh, and if you actually read the list you'd find it incorrect as mobley isn't listed in the top 30, yet he is on the season @ 16.7 ppg, and 17.5 ppg w/the kings in 17 games.
 
Last edited:
mobley's number look exactly like Manu Ginobilis. mobley plays more minutes though....manu is also an all-star if we neednt forget.
 
bigbadred00 said:
Honestly are we supposed to win against the Spurs without arguably our best player for 1 game and without one of our best players for another. I guess you expect that but I'm realistic. The 2nd game was a pretty good showing and if we turned on another gear we could have easily won that game. But things didn't do that way so be it. I was more disappointed at the Arco performance but that's another story. I hate giving excuses for losses but without having a major player against the best team in the league is a pretty good one.
Click to expand...

Just an example

Last season we beat Lakers in LA without CW, Brad and Bobby

We had a best record in the league at this point year ago.

This team has been winning no matter who was out because it was playing as a team
 
Mobley's a good scorer. Not a great one. But a good one. He's certainly one of the better OGs in the league, but not quite a great All-Star level one.

Doug back in his prime was probably the better overall player, or at least the better player at that time for us. But its not Doug's prime anymore, and people have to quit living in the past. Old Doug is not as good as current Mobley, and the deterioration will only accelerate. Doug and Vlade got old. That's life.

What it changes though is that now we are a defensive captain/stopper short of where we were a few years back. Actually we were already short a defensive captain this year because the Doug Christie of a few years back was no longer on our team. We'll be just fine once Mobley settles in, and as potent as we've ever been offensively, perhaps more so. Never had five guys who can all go for 30 on the floor at the same time before. But we are going to need to find a defensive/hustle leader somewhere else. That's our challenge if we are going to seriously contend this year.
 
Last edited:
Oh you mean against the 50% winning % Lakers without Malone. Oh that team. Please don't compare the 75% win team Spurs team with the 50% win team Lakers without Malone. I hate to be cynical but that comparison isn't too pretty.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

S
Kings Sharpshooter Labeled as a Trade Target for the 76ers
Replies
0
Views
258
Sacramento Kings On SI
S
Tetsujin
  • Locked
  • Poll Poll
[Game] Kings vs. Timberwolves 10/24/2024 7pm Pacific 10pm Eastern
18 19 20
Replies
574
Views
14K
joemama
J
Spike
What Do The Kings Mean to You?
Replies
6
Views
457
Siranthony
S
hrdboild
Can We Show Some Love for Davion?
2 3 4
Replies
112
Views
9K
midtowner
M
bajaden
Bajaden's real 2024 Mock Draft: Part one
2 3
Replies
63
Views
7K
KingsFanSince85
KingsFanSince85
Back
Top