Cousins suspended one game

Just saw Vlade being questioned about the Cousins situation. I am VERY proud of Vlade, who didn't allow the reporter to throw him under the bus. Vlade was VERY clear that he isn't buying into the Cousins hate.
 
VF21 said:
There's been some good discussion in here. If, however, it dissolves into nothing more than snark and sarcasm, the thread will be closed.
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Well, when you put it that way...









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Any team that wants to have a winning record needs some leadership from their best players. Cousins is definitely a dominant player but shows none of the leadership the team needs.
 
VF21 said:
Just saw Vlade being questioned about the Cousins situation. I am VERY proud of Vlade, who didn't allow the reporter to throw him under the bus. Vlade was VERY clear that he isn't buying into the Cousins hate.
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Indeed. It is clear that Vlade understands Cuz, understands Cuz's anger and also disapproves 100% in the way Cuz expressed himself.

My view: if there are people who can passively accept losing game after game without getting angry, these people end up being losers. Express the anger in a mature fashion, though. I see a team who largely doesn't care. I couldn't play on a team like that.
 
Dbeltz24 said:
Obviously Randolph hasn't been a key to Memphis's success the past couple of years. Such a bench scrub.
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1. Zach Randolph is not a good fit starting alongside Cousins.
2. Randolph won't be signing a deal in Sacramento to come off the bench.
3. I have zero desire to root for a player with as long a list of transgressions as Randolph.

Again, I can't fathom the thought process of "Cousins is too immature on the court, let's sign a guy who was investigated as part of a drug ring, brought up on gun charges, and has a long list of weed and assault convictions - that will fix things."
 
ppine said:
Any team that wants to have a winning record needs some leadership from their best players. Cousins is definitely a dominant player but shows none of the leadership the team needs.
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http://www.clipsnation.com/2015/9/17/9333995/michael-jordan-and-the-trades-that-didnt-happen

The Bulls were on the verge of being eliminated in the 1988 Eastern Conference Semifinals by the Detroit Pistons and the team had won just four total playoff games – and sported a 4-15 playoff record – in the first four seasons with Michael Jordan. There was a large dividing line among Bulls management that led to a theory that the team would "never win a title because Jordan’s style of one-on-one play eliminated the other players as contributors." But this is where Reinsdorf comes in, as he was somewhat hurting for money. Jordan brought in the fans, the fans paid for merchandise, and Reinsdorf obviously loved that aspect. With the news of possibly moving the White Sox to Florida coming out, moving Jordan would probably mean Chicagoans calling for his head and demanding nothing less. Yet, even still, Reinsdorf’s discussions with Florida could mean he didn’t care about any of that. Bulls head coach Doug Collins had also informed Reinsdorf that the team "couldn’t win with Jordan." The writing seemed on the wall that Jordan would have to be gone.
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Jordan was coming off of being the Most Valuable Player, Defensive Player of the Year, and the league’s leading scorer during the 1987-1988 season, but the Bulls were still close to dealing him away for two high draft picks. Ultimately, Jerry Reinsdorf told Donald Sterling that he would not be going through with the deal. Why? Quite simply, Michael Jordan was too profitable and too talented for the Bulls to toss to the side. Despite being able to possibly have a lineup of five young guys who could grow together as a cohesive unit, Chicago opted to continue building around Jordan with pieces; such players as Scottie Pippen, Horace Grant, and Charles Oakley.
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Section 101 said:
http://www.clipsnation.com/2015/9/17/9333995/michael-jordan-and-the-trades-that-didnt-happen
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my lord

Well, the good news is that Kings fans aren't being any more stupid than other idiots have been in the past. Basketball idiots too. Every half decade or so some idiot or his fans talk themselves out of a superstar. Its nearly universally a terrible idea, but NBA people are as ignorant of history as most Americans, and so they will repeat those same old mistakes.

I remember the Rockets talking about trading Hakeem too a few years before they won their titles with him. Why? Bad attitude and couldn't win with him. There are a great number of ignorant people in the world.
 
VF21 said:
Just saw Vlade being questioned about the Cousins situation. I am VERY proud of Vlade, who didn't allow the reporter to throw him under the bus. Vlade was VERY clear that he isn't buying into the Cousins hate.
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He doesn't make the decisions.

I'll never agree with you and Brick on this point. Vivek's hands are all over this mess.
 
LPKingsFan said:
Not sure where to put this, but I'll go ahead here:

Marc J. Spears ‏@SpearsNBAYahoo 7m7 minutes ago
"That wasn't a suspension from the organization. That was a suspension from the head coach," Kings center DeMarcus Cousins said.
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That's better actually.

Karl is a dead man walking. better if Cousins' ire is kept directed in that direction rather than at Vlade/the organization.
 
Yeah I saw that, at the time they decided to keep Karl, when it was obvious it wasn't working earlier this year I disagreed, but I understood what Vlade was doing. But there really is no point in keeping him around any longer. Playoffs are all but mathematically out Of reach and he's killing the spirit of our players. Time for Karl to go.
 
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Vlade backed the suspension from the head coach, therefore it was a organization move.
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Not important if it was, just that Cuz thinks it was Karl. Really is a minor piece of good news. In a month Karl won't matter and any dispute Cuz has with him can dissipate. Be a much larger problem if this had caused any rift with Vlade.

In fact really, I think we should blame everything on Karl since he's on the way out the door anyway. The term "scapegoat" actually comes from an old Middle Eastern tradition where you would put a magic talisman around the neck of a goat and do a ceremony to take all of the sins of a village and trap them in the talisman. Then you'd chase the goat out into the desert, taking all the village's sins with it, and leaving peace at home.

Should do the same thing with Karl. Get some use out of him at least.
 
Haha.... Vlade's reaction.

Karl is gone this summer.

Reeeeeeeaaaaaalllly hoping we get a good coach. We've had one since RA....

Who am I kidding, it's gonna be Mark Jackson haha
 
With DMC manager tweet and DMC suspension I honestly thought he was gone this summer. Warms my hear hearing the clown Karl not Vlade was behind it.
 
randymoss1881 said:
With DMC manager tweet and DMC suspension I honestly thought he was gone this summer. Warms my hear hearing the clown Karl not Vlade was behind it.
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I think the most likely scenario is that Karl went to Vlade and demanded he do something. And tbh, at that point Vlade had to concede that DMC had crossed a line.

There are still a lot of questions, however. DMC says Karl didn't speak to him before the game; Karl says they were cordial. There's something rotten here...and I don't think it's our beleaguered center.
 
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