Cousins muscling his way to Sac?

[Sluggah]

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wi...lves_believing_theyve_decided_on_johnson/el/#

Sounds like Cousins is trying to pull a Rubio...

I wouldn't want to play in Minnesota either. Best news I've read today.

 

[Big Cuz 15]

i hope thats the case knowing kahn tho, lol, he won't care and draft him anyway

 

[ElRey]

Well i guess if you're Cousins' agent and you look at the Kings roster, you'd probably want him here too! there is absolutely no competition at the center spot...

 

[stevetaebo]

Unfair really. A rookie having that much leverage to not want to go to Minnesota.

Agent is probably saying he's going to Europe if he's drafted.

Sure this might be good for the Kings, but still the issue is there that stars don't want to play for small teams. At these times I wish NBA had some sort of franchise tag the NFL has that can be applied to give teams compensation when players leave.

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Unfair really. A rookie having that much leverage to not want to go to Minnesota.

Agent is probably saying he's going to Europe if he's drafted.

Wow. The agent is NOT saying that. That's a pretty serious and completely unwarranted stretch from what was reported in the article - which is that the agent does not want Cousins to work out in Minnesota because the agent does not believe that Minnesota will draft him. An agent not wanting to waste the time and energy of his client is a far, far cry from dictating where a player will and will not sign.

 

[91sickness]

Wow. The agent is NOT saying that. That's a pretty serious and completely unwarranted stretch from what was reported in the article - which is that the agent does not want Cousins to work out in Minnesota because the agent does not believe that Minnesota will draft him. An agent not wanting to waste the time and energy of his client is a far, far cry from dictating where a player will and will not sign.

Im guessing you didnt pick up on the fact that it was a joke, no where was this idea reported...

 

[Widowmaker2k]

As per Minny fans, Kahn was on the radio up there today and said that he's been trying to get Cousins to come in for a workout, but as reported, Cousins' agent will not allow it.

 

[stevetaebo]

Wow. The agent is NOT saying that. That's a pretty serious and completely unwarranted stretch from what was reported in the article - which is that the agent does not want Cousins to work out in Minnesota because the agent does not believe that Minnesota will draft him. An agent not wanting to waste the time and energy of his client is a far, far cry from dictating where a player will and will not sign.

It did not happen. My point was that it could easily happen if Kahn says out loud "I'm drafting Cousins." Then Cousin's agent could very well escalate the threat to his client is going to Europe if drafted knowing full well about the Rubio not wanting to play for Minne as well.

Anyways my point is that it's unfair that a rookie (through him or his agent) can make such demands even if in this case can benefit our team. Because so many times that we've been on the unwelcoming side of a free agent or player not wanting to be here.

 

[Nighthawk1]

It's kind of a weird place for Cousins' agent... He seems to be under the belief that Kahn is drafting Johnson and that it's set in stone... If that's true then he probably doesn't want to risk having his client workout in places he has almost no chance at going to to reduce the chance of possible injury... It seems like when draft time comes around these kids would love to come play here in Sac - wish the FA's were the same way...

 

[ivan_fiba]

''best shooter'' strong words

 

[Vlade4GM]

It's kind of a weird place for Cousins' agent... He seems to be under the belief that Kahn is drafting Johnson and that it's set in stone... If that's true then he probably doesn't want to risk having his client workout in places he has almost no chance at going to to reduce the chance of possible injury... It seems like when draft time comes around these kids would love to come play here in Sac - wish the FA's were the same way...

Veterans have different priorities. Youngins want opportunity more than anything.

 

[JB_kings]

I saw on draft express that Cousins is supposed to work out for the Nets on the 21st. So I think the message for the Wolves is clear.

 

[bajaden]

It did not happen. My point was that it could easily happen if Kahn says out loud "I'm drafting Cousins." Then Cousin's agent could very well escalate the threat to his client is going to Europe if drafted knowing full well about the Rubio not wanting to play for Minne as well.

Anyways my point is that it's unfair that a rookie (through him or his agent) can make such demands even if in this case can benefit our team. Because so many times that we've been on the unwelcoming side of a free agent or player not wanting to be here.

Usually the agents have more of an inside track on which teams are interested a client. Its been reported just about everywhere including the Minny newspapers that the Timberwolves are going to move up to take Turner if possible, or stay put and draft Johnson. So with that knowledge the agent simply said that Cousins wasn't going to be working out in Minny. As far as I know, the Timberwolves haven't requested a workout. So I think your blowing the whole thing out of proportion a little.

I'm sure that if Kahn called up the agent and said were really interested in Cousins, he would go and work out. We don't even know the sequence of events that led to the statement. Someone may have asked if Cousins was working out for the Timberwolves and the agent may have said no, that they're pretty much set on drafting Johnson.

Bottom line is that the agent is there to help and protect his clients interest. Having him go through a pointless workout when you know the team has no interest doesn't make sense. Add to this, that I can find no complaint from the Timberwolves FO printed anywhere in any of the Minny newspapers. As a matter of fact, there has been no mention of Cousins at all that I can find.

By the way, Johnson is working out for the Timberwolves tomorrow and Dexter Pittman just finished a workout. Apparently Kahn was very impressed with Pittman who Kahn says looks even slimmer than he did at the combine. Obviously with the T Wolves having two second round picks they may have Pittman targeted.

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

Somewhat shady move by Cousins, but the agent has to look out for his players.

Unless Big AL or Kevin Love get moved .. .I just dont see how Cousins fits with that team. Its not like Love or Al are old, or reaching the end of there deals. Both guys are young and signed long term. If they want a big, someone who does something different, like Favors, would make a little more sense.

 

[upinsmoke]

i saw on draft express that cousins is supposed to work out for the nets on the 21st. So i think the message for the wolves is clear.

ouch!

 

[Vlade4GM]

Somewhat shady move by Cousins, but the agent has to look out for his players.

Unless Big AL or Kevin Love get moved .. .I just dont see how Cousins fits with that team. Its not like Love or Al are old, or reaching the end of there deals. Both guys are young and signed long term. If they want a big, someone who does something different, like Favors, would make a little more sense.

If I were them I'd take Cousins and deal Jefferson for a SG/SF. A frontcourt of Jefferson and Love is not going to ever contend for championship because of their defensive abilities. You can live with Love's defense if you have a center that has the size and length that can at least adequately anchor a defense, and while Cousins has questions defensively (I don't suspect he'll be much of a pick and roll defender) he's 6'11 290 with a 9'5 standing reach, that's size that can match up with the best bigs. He's long enough to be a good shot blocker too.

 

[MassachusettsKingsFan]

If I were them I'd take Cousins and deal Jefferson for a SG/SF. A frontcourt of Jefferson and Love is not going to ever contend for championship because of their defensive abilities. You can live with Love's defense if you have a center that has the size and length that can at least adequately anchor a defense, and while Cousins has questions defensively (I don't suspect he'll be much of a pick and roll defender) he's 6'11 290 with a 9'5 standing reach, that's size that can match up with the best bigs. He's long enough to be a good shot blocker too.

I agree with you, If I were GM of the Twolves, I'd take Wall, Turner, Favors, and Cousins - in that order. I just doubt thats the way they go.

However, if they do decide to do that I wouldnt be against dealing for Jefferson. So even if they swipe Cousins from us, we can still make the best of the situation by putting a package together for Jefferson. I would think that we have just as much to offer them then anyone.

 

[Smills91]

As per Minny fans, Kahn was on the radio up there today and said that he's been trying to get Cousins to come in for a workout, but as reported, Cousins' agent will not allow it.

David Kahn = Blowhard.

He's seriously got diarrhea of the mouth as a GM. He just mindlessly talks and says anything and everything. I think he's obnoxious and terrible GM and what's so funny, is that Minny's fanbase buys it. They actually trust the guy. I think Kahn makes McHale look like a Jerry West level GM.

 

[upinsmoke]

Jason Thompson/Noci for AJ?

Both sides might be intrested no matter what happens at #5.

 

[Smills91]

Jason Thompson/Noci for AJ?

Both sides might be intrested no matter what happens at #5.

Yuck, just say no to Al JEfferson. At this point he is what he is. One of the best low-post scorers in the league, on a gimpy knee with an albatross contract. We already have one of the top 10 low post scorers in the league in Landry at a fraction of the cost. Let's use our finite monetary resources ELSEWHERE. AJ is NOT the answer to our current frontcourt woes. Defensive rebounding and DEFENSE are. That's why I'd MUCH prefer Okafor over Jefferson.

 

[Bricklayer]

Yuck, just say no to Al JEfferson. At this point he is what he is. One of the best low-post scorers in the league, on a gimpy knee with an albatross contract. We already have one of the top 10 low post scorers in the league in Landry at a fraction of the cost. Let's use our finite monetary resources ELSEWHERE. AJ is NOT the answer to our current frontcourt woes. Defensive rebounding and DEFENSE are. That's why I'd MUCH prefer Okafor over Jefferson.

Landry is never going to be the elite post player we need, and at his size may in the end end up better as a 6th man. We are still in need of one great post threat, a guy team's double. Jefferson isn't perfect, but healthy he's 22 and 11, and there are about 5 guys in the league who can say that.

 

[Vlade4GM]

I'm not really into acquiring Jefferson. He doesn't have a position defensively and he's a black hole stat stuffer. I don't think there's really a lot of substance to his points.

 

[Sparky6string]

Late to the party but man this is huge. I'd heard rumblings but this is the most concrete evidence I've seen that Cousins may actually slip to us.

And Jefferson- I am a huge fan of his offensive skills. I haven't seen low post work like that since Hakeem, but he's a defensive liability and will those knees ever be reliable again?

 

[gunks]

If we get Cousins..


....Lordy.

One of our young SF's reaches their potential and we got ourselves a homegrown "big three".

 

[Elektrik]

Even if Cousins falls to us, I think G.P. might just pass on him. Too many red flags by all accounts and Monroe is a more prototypical player as far as Petrie is concerned. I would love to have Cousins but my gut just tells me different.

 

[hrdboild]

David Kahn = Blowhard.

He's seriously got diarrhea of the mouth as a GM. He just mindlessly talks and says anything and everything. I think he's obnoxious and terrible GM and what's so funny, is that Minny's fanbase buys it. They actually trust the guy. I think Kahn makes McHale look like a Jerry West level GM.

Digressing a bit I know, but I don't think Jerry West was very kind to Memphis actually. I don't know if you can use him as an example of a great GM anymore unless you specifically mean "making the Lakers better".

 

[T4L3NT3D530]

Even if Cousins falls to us, I think G.P. might just pass on him. Too many red flags by all accounts and Monroe is a more prototypical player as far as Petrie is concerned. I would love to have Cousins but my gut just tells me different.

we do not run the princeton offense anymore... thats not an offense that can be run with a player like tyreke as your go to guy. we have actual offensive sets now with PW. so i dont think you can just assume GP is going to go for that passing big anymore. i think he made that clear last year. its all about toughness now. if cousins is there, he fits the mold of a team we are trying to assemble.

 

[gunks]

This is awful.

My hopes are back up to pre lotto levels.

And if there's one thing I know about my hopes, its that they are more often than not dashed to bits on the cold and jagged rocks of reality.

I'm gonna assume we're ending up with Monroe. If we get Cuz, I'll punch the closest Lakers fan in the nose to celebrate.

 

[Widowmaker2k]

This is awful.

My hopes are back up to pre lotto levels.

And if there's one thing I know about my hopes, its that they are more often than not dashed to bits on the cold and jagged rocks of reality.

I'm gonna assume we're ending up with Monroe. If we get Cuz, I'll punch the closest Lakers fan in the nose to celebrate.

This is kind of how I feel...hopefully Kahn makes a promise to Johnson.

 

[Chupacabra]

Yuck, just say no to Al JEfferson. At this point he is what he is. One of the best low-post scorers in the league, on a gimpy knee with an albatross contract. We already have one of the top 10 low post scorers in the league in Landry at a fraction of the cost. Let's use our finite monetary resources ELSEWHERE. AJ is NOT the answer to our current frontcourt woes. Defensive rebounding and DEFENSE are. That's why I'd MUCH prefer Okafor over Jefferson.

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