Could brad be a bobcat?

[=LarryLegend=]

Bobcats Still Prowling
It seems the Charlotte Bobcatsand New Jersey Nets are going to need a third team to get involved to make their rumored deal work out. The good news for Bobcats fans is that it may not be Gerald Wallace leaving town after all.

No matter how you look at it, the core group in Charlotte is absolutely Jason Richardson, Emeka Okafor, and Gerald Wallace. Everyone else is expendable in one way or another. I would argue that rookie point guard DJ Augustin is on the that list, as well, now that he's starting to find his pro legs. The rumor out of New Jersey today is that it's Adam Morrison who the Bobcats are trying to shop as part of a package deal, rather than the oft-rumored Wallace. In case you haven't seen Morrison this season, he has been playing some very good basketball. Maybe the haircut has cleared his range of vision, because now he's becoming a real scoring threat, tallying 16, 15, and 14 points in consecutive games last week.

The catch here is that the Bobcats really want a starting center back in the deal. We all saw the reports that they were trying to get Chris Kaman from the Clippers, and that's exactly the type of player they need next to Okafor in the post. Reports from the Charlotte Observer, the Neward Star-Ledger, and the Associated Press all have the Bobcats close to a move with New Jersey, but it seems they need a third team to get involved to make it right for everyone involved.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=10672


We havent heard about any rumors.....and brad going to bobcats does make sense for them......could Ammo be a King, maybe Gerald Wallace a return!

petrie strikes when you hear nothing.

 

[Spanish_King]

I don't like totally Gerald Wallace. His contract is very high and long.

 

[Aenadin]

Brad
Douby
2nd round

for

Felton
Morrison
May

isnt a bad trade for us

 

[Spanish_King]

Brad
Douby
2nd round

for

Felton
Morrison
May

isnt a bad trade for us

this is better for us but...

Miller + Douby + 1st round from Houston

for

Felton + Morrison + May

 

[Bricklayer]

a) hoopsworld is never right about these things

b) if it were a three team deal, then we would be getting guys from New Jersey, not Charlotte -- Charlotte sends Morrison or whoever to New Jersey, Jersey sends whoever to us, and we send Brad to Charlotte.

But not at all sure, that Larry Brown stupidity aside, the Cats have any need for a 32/33 yr old center who will be long gone by the time they get any good. Kaman's different -- he;s young (and better obviously). Although never could understand why teams thought the Clips would move Kaman either. Because of 35 yr old Marcus Camby? Only in Clipperland would trading the 26yr old for the 35 yr old make sense.

 

[kingsfan101]

But not at all sure, that Larry Brown stupidity aside, the Cats have any need for a 32/33 yr old center who will be long gone by the time they get any good.

Don't know if it has any legs, but Brad to Cats makes sense for LB, if not for the franchise.

LB is trying to redeem himself after the Knicks fiasco. He is not going to be their coach for a long time. He would like to see a quick turnaround and leave. Brad is a vet who can certainly help them, and his contract ends next year. So, he's relatively low risk. It works well for LB, even if it harms their long term interests (assuming they are required to give some young assets/picks in the process).

On another note, MJ might not be too much against a quick turn around either, even at some cost of young talent. His performance as a GM has been poor so far (picked Kwame and AM from 1 and 3 picks, traded Rip for Stackhouse, traded Wright for Jason Richardson's huge contract). As the trade for Jason showed, he is not averse to giving up a young prospect to win now.

 

[Bricklayer]

Don't know if it has any legs, but Brad to Cats makes sense for LB, if not for the franchise.

LB is trying to redeem himself after the Knicks fiasco. He is not going to be their coach for a long time. He would like to see a quick turnaround and leave. Brad is a vet who can certainly help them, and his contract ends next year. So, he's relatively low risk. It works well for LB, even if it harms their long term interests (assuming they are required to give some young assets/picks in the process).

On another note, MJ might not be too much against a quick turn around either, even at some cost of young talent. His performance as a GM has been poor so far (picked Kwame and AM from 1 and 3 picks, traded Rip for Stackhouse, traded Wright for Jason Richardson's huge contract). As the trade for Jason showed, he is not averse to giving up a young prospect to win now.

People said that about Richardson...but damn, the guy was only 25 when they traded for him. He WAS a young prospect -- basically the same age as Gerald, a year+ older than Kevin. Not quite the same thing as a 32/33 yr old big man. Those guys maybe have 2 years left.

All of the above said, Jordan's GM work has considierably sucked, so who knows what's possible.
Still,

 

[captain bill]

The only reason I can think they would want Brad is if they think they can make a playoff run this year and next, and even then the idea would only be to make some noise and shore up the fan base. I don't know what the situation is like in NC, but I remember them having some problems with turnout for games in the past. Long-term, doesn't make much since, B52 doesn't really put them in a position to win much of anything significant.

 

[kingsfan101]

People said that about Richardson...but damn, the guy was only 25 when they traded for him. He WAS a young prospect -- basically the same age as Gerald, a year+ older than Kevin. Not quite the same thing as a 32/33 yr old big man. Those guys maybe have 2 years left.

All of the above said, Jordan's GM work has considierably sucked, so who knows what's possible.
Still,

Thanks. Didn't know that. Should have checked that up.

Moreover, my point about trading for Jason was not that he is a bad player. Live in bay area, and see lot of GS games, and always liked him. Just that Cats were ready to give up a young prospect in an effort to win now. With little success so far, and LB coaching, they might try that even more now.

 

[=LarryLegend=]

Ryan Anderson and Ramond Felton???? bring mr.eldorado hills back cali

 

[upinsmoke]

Gerald wallace or J-Rich would be great for us. Especially if they would be okay coming off the bench. The one thing that makes the trade not to appealing is the contracts of both those players. But Morrison uhhh no thanks.

 

[LPKingsFan]

Well, if the Bobcats were intersted in a younger center like Curry, and the Knicks still wanted to clear even more space for 2010, then I could see a three-way with Brad going to NY and players to be named from CHA heading here.

 

[VF21]

petrie strikes when you hear nothing.

Which, if true, pretty much means this won't happen.

 

[KCKingsCountry]

Bobcats really dont have anything we need or what they have they wont give away for Miller. Honsetly we are looking at for Miller a deal similar to what we got for Bibby or Artest - some expirings and draft picks.

 

[Arby's Roast Beef]

Brad and Douby can definitely be put on the trading block for the right deals, but this isn't the right sort of deal. Those three players (Felton, Morrison, and May) are exactly the three players the Bobcats want to get rid of, as they're all essentially busts in different ways; Felton's ingrained bad habits include reckless decision making and horrific, seeming nonimprovable shooting, Morrison's not even one-dimensional, he's pretty much poor in everything as denoted by his horrible PER in his rookie year; and May can't even stay healthy, ever. Gerald Wallace sounds more intriguing than the three of those guys combined, but it's not like we need another SF player. I wouldn't advise a trade with the Cats, unless it's a trade landing us a future draft pick.

 

[upinsmoke]

Maybe for an expiring plus a 2011 pick.

 

[hearns]

http://www.nba.com/2008/news/12/10/aldridge.sunstrade/index.html

Charlotte, a source said, will be addressing that in the next few days, using forward Gerald Wallace as bait in order to secure a starting center.

 

[RalphySampson]

"The Bobcats are playing much better this season under Brown, in his first year with his latest team. But Brown, as ever, has been unhappy with his team's defense and is looking to add a true center up front so current center Emeka Okafor can move to power forward."


Since he is looking to improve his defense he probably won't be interested in Brad Miller.

 

[Kings Faithful]

I think going after Wallace would be a good thing but my only reserve is that either Salmons or Martin is going to have to come off the bench....and we all know who is first on the chopping block, and we all know how Salmons plays of the bench. Then again the trio of Martin, Salmons, and Wallace might be injured so much that that kind of problem never arises. Maby we should look to get rid of Salmons AND Miller and try to pick up Felton in the deal.

 

[nbrans]

Something tells me Geoff won't trade for Gerald, even using Brad. It's a risky move given Wallace's inconsistency and especially his head injuries, but I also kind of suspect Geoff is mentally wedded to our current SF rotation of Salmons and Garcia.

Hope I'm wrong, but my crystal ball is showing much hand-sitting.

 

[Spanish_King]

Bobcats salaries about they can trade to us:

Felton 4'1
Morrison 4'1
Bell 5'1
Wallace 9
Mohammed 6
Ajinca 1'2
Carroll 5
May 2'2
Diaw 9

the best option would be get Raymond Felton, but they have to trade us a big salarie (Mohammed or Bell)

 

[Capt. Factorial]

Charlotte, a source said, will be addressing that in the next few days, using forward Gerald Wallace as bait in order to secure a starting center.

It seems to me that trading away both Richardson and Wallace would leave them very thin at the 2/3, even with Raja Bell now in the fold. Adam Morrison? Matt Carroll? Boris Diaw? Fill one hole, create another, I guess. It just seems that at C they've got Ajinca who might develop, and May and Mohammed can hold it down for now.

I'm not a Charlotte fan, but it seems that from their point of view I'd rather have Wallace than somebody like Miller. Who else might they get in return?

 

[hearns]

^^ I was surprised too. I thought the Richardson trade would make Gerald Wallace untouchable. But maybe they want to play Diaw at the 3, who knows...

I don't see many realistic options for the Bobcats if they want a center for Wallace, that's why I quoted the paragraph: Brad Miller, Chris Kaman, Marcus Camby, Eddy Curry... and that's it.

 

[bajaden]

People said that about Richardson...but damn, the guy was only 25 when they traded for him. He WAS a young prospect -- basically the same age as Gerald, a year+ older than Kevin. Not quite the same thing as a 32/33 yr old big man. Those guys maybe have 2 years left.

All of the above said, Jordan's GM work has considierably sucked, so who knows what's possible.
Still,

Jordan obviously needs to call Isiah Thomas for advise.

 

[sidney]

I would think that Brad/Salmons could get us Wallace/Morrison. Morrison expires in 2010 and we'd get a core player for years to come. They fill two starting positions.

I doubt Petrie would go for this though. We've heard nothing about him being interested in Wallace recently

 

[hearns]

What starting position fills Adam Morrison?

The more likely trade between Bobcats and Kings IMO would be Gerald Wallace and Sean May for Brad Miller.

But the problem is what to do with John Salmons if we trade for Wallace.

 

[sidney]

What starting position fills Adam Morrison?

The more likely trade between Bobcats and Kings IMO would be Gerald Wallace and Sean May for Brad Miller.

But the problem is what to do with John Salmons if we trade for Wallace.

Salmons and Brad would start for them at SF and Center. 1...2... Morrison is a bench guy, basically a bust, and a contract to make the trade work that doesn't mess up our cap space.

May/Wallace for Salmons/Miller does not work with salary rules

 

[hearns]

Sorry, I read Wallace and Morrison would fill two starting positions for us.

 

[Kings Faithful]

Something tells me Geoff won't trade for Gerald, even using Brad. It's a risky move given Wallace's inconsistency and especially his head injuries, but I also kind of suspect Geoff is mentally wedded to our current SF rotation of Salmons and Garcia.

Hope I'm wrong, but my crystal ball is showing much hand-sitting.

Well here is the way I look at it. By 2010 Salmons is going to be gone and we will be looking for a new SF in the FA..our main choices given our cap space at the time would be Caron Butler and Hedo Turkoglu and its not guaranteed that they would sign with us. That said Gerald Wallace is in the same skill level with those guys but unlike them by trading for Wallace we guarantee that he stays with us all the way until 2013 and at roughly the same cost.

 

[SacKings7]

Well here is the way I look at it. By 2010 Salmons is going to be gone and we will be looking for a new SF in the FA..our main choices given our cap space at the time would be Caron Butler and Hedo Turkoglu and its not guaranteed that they would sign with us. That said Gerald Wallace is in the same skill level with those guys but unlike them by trading for Wallace we guarantee that he stays with us all the way until 2013 and at roughly the same cost.

I'd much rather have Butler, I've been a big fan of his since his college days. I never realized he was a FA in 2010. I'd love to see him in a Kings uniform. That being said, he'd most likely come at a bigger price.