Coronavirus

#91
This is exactly what happened with some of the East Asian cities at the beginning of the outbreak and they got the virus under control before resuming normal activity.
Macau, with all the casino resorts, has discharged last recovered coronavirus patient, with no new cases in more than a month.

Macau discharges last recovered coronavirus patient, with no new cases in more than a month
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong...5/macau-discharges-last-recovered-coronavirus
 
#93
I work in a teaching hospital and we've had one case confirmed, another at the affiliate next door and about 20 awaiting results. One physician had told me a week ago that we'd have 500 confirmed by end of week, which did not happen, the first came over the weekend.

Classes and research missions in full swing. I work on the academic side and get questions 4x a day if a particular learning event is still taking place. It's all a bit much since many times it is a clinician asking me. I just work here. Ack! They all know the situation is fluid and yet are asking me 2-3 days or a week into the future.

There are talk of some programs going online only for the next quarter. Which may or may not mean I have no work for a while. Gonna be interesting. But I guess seeing the NCAA and NBA react and knowing my university is going much slower and more methodically has me confused as to whether people are panicking or I'm putting my health in jeopardy by going to work each day.
 
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If that's the model for this country, then everybody should not go to work, not go to school, not go to the store, go to a cave in the mountains and hibernate indefinitely. Makes no sense.
I mean... ideally, these quarantine measures would happen at THE START of an outbreak, not 2 months in or whatever we are now. But better late than never.

China has actually gained some control of the Covid19 situation by locking **** down as only an authoritarian government can (it'll be interesting to see if cases tick back up after they loosen the lock down). I imagine we'll see a decline in cases in Italy in the coming months now that they've shut it down.

It totally sucks that these measures have to be taken, but as Insomniacal Fan noted in their excellent post above, it's about how much our hospitals can handle. US medicine is woefully unprepared for an outbreak like this. We gotta slow it down somehow.
 
#96
It's likely that every one of us will probably get the virus in the next couple of years, it is novel, nobody has an immunity. Banning large gatherings is to try and make it so that we don't all get the virus in the same month; which would overwhelm local hospitals.

We have 2 hospital beds per 1000 people in California; 1 percent of Coronavirus victims require hospitalization.
If 50% of people get sick, that's 500 people from the thousand
1% of that is 5 people.
2 people get beds, so 3 out of 5 people those people... die I suppose.
Lets not forget that those hospital beds can't be used to treat other urgent care items.

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Our capacity to treat the symptoms of the disease is limited. Current efforts on social distancing are based on slowing down the disease spread so that our health system has a chance to keep up.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/hist...arade-gave-thousands-onlookers-flu-180970372/

It will definitely settle down. Even the worst pandemics in our past have eventually leveled off and decreased. Just wash them hands and apply common sense if you have to go out in the public. Try and distance yourself form crowds, and when you touch bathroom doors, make a conscious effort to not touch your face, even if that means covering your head with a ski mask or something as a reminder....


Another tip is when you go grocery shopping, go later at night or early in the day when there are less crowds.....
 
#97
I agree with you and the Chinese government on basketball. They’re now demanding that the 40 some Americans playing in China must return to china to continue their season as the crisis must be over in China.
 
It's likely that every one of us will probably get the virus in the next couple of years, it is novel, nobody has an immunity. Banning large gatherings is to try and make it so that we don't all get the virus in the same month; which would overwhelm local hospitals.

We have 2 hospital beds per 1000 people in California; 1 percent of Coronavirus victims require hospitalization.
If 50% of people get sick, that's 500 people from the thousand
1% of that is 5 people.
2 people get beds, so 3 out of 5 people those people... die I suppose.
Lets not forget that those hospital beds can't be used to treat other urgent care items.

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Our capacity to treat the symptoms of the disease is limited. Current efforts on social distancing are based on slowing down the disease spread so that our health system has a chance to keep up.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/hist...arade-gave-thousands-onlookers-flu-180970372/
This.
 
Been watching the last quarter of the Dallas game and who the heck is that Luka guy?

Sorry couldn’t help myself being the last night for awhile. LOL.
 
So yeah maybe a few weeks of full whole country quarantine could do the trick... ?

Better that than letting it spread all over I suppose?
Avoiding crowds, work from home, wipe before you touch things, wash your hand every time your return home. I know CDC doesn't recommend wearing mask except when you show symptom, but this is kind of silly as the symptom often doesn't show up until 4-5 days. This is like asking basketball player don't play defense until the player you are guarding make a move.
 
It damn well should if someone tested positive for the virus.

A problem in the states that many seem wholly unaware of is we're testing at a rate of 7 people per 1M while S Korea tested at a rate of 1,100 per 1M. In other words, the number infected is likely far, far higher than result show since we're barely testing anyone.
A lot of front line staff has advocating for testing more frequently as early as a month ago before the first person-to-person transmission was release. As of right now, we DO NOT have enough tests to to test everyone so basically you're only testing the sickest one (ICU or needing admission to hospital). So our numbers that is positive is low because we are not testing enough and it is likely alot more positive out there that has not been tested. I would say from what i've seen so far, it is not any more lethal than influenza but probably more infectious. What is going to overwhelm the system for example is that instead of 2% of 100 that get admitted, you will get 2% of 1000 so you can see how that will end up affecting everyone. I suspect this is why they ran out of ventilator in Italy. What is also going to happen is that your hospital resource is all gear toward this that you will not be able to respond to more simple routine stuff like heart attack, appendicitis, etc.
 
It will definitely settle down. Even the worst pandemics in our past have eventually leveled off and decreased. Just wash them hands and apply common sense if you have to go out in the public. Try and distance yourself form crowds, and when you touch bathroom doors, make a conscious effort to not touch your face, even if that means covering your head with a ski mask or something as a reminder....
Handwashing and avoiding face touching are good! That also helps slow things down. But the potential disaster isn't at the individual behavior level, it's at the public health level. Good Hygiene is not the entire answer.
 
I work in a teaching hospital and we've had one case confirmed, another at the affiliate next door and about 20 awaiting results. One physician had told me a week ago that we'd have 500 confirmed by end of week, which did not happen, the first came over the weekend.

Classes and research missions in full swing. I work on the academic side and get questions 4x a day if a particular learning event is still taking place. It's all a bit much since many times it is a clinician asking me. I just work here. Ack! They all know the situation is fluid and yet are asking me 2-3 days or a week into the future.

There are talk of some programs going online only for the next quarter. Which may or may not mean I have no work for a while. Gonna be interesting. But I guess seeing the NCAA and NBA react and knowing my university is going much slower and more methodically has me confused as to whether people are panicking or I'm putting my health in jeopardy by going to work each day.
I can tell you that more likely is because we cant send the test. Up until a few days ago, each case has to be approved by public health before they let you test it. Now they're leaving it up to the discretion of the physician and their infectious disease consultant.
 
I can tell you that more likely is because we cant send the test. Up until a few days ago, each case has to be approved by public health before they let you test it. Now they're leaving it up to the discretion of the physician and their infectious disease consultant.
I know that's part of it but as of the end of day there were still under 50 people at our facility for treatment of symptoms and 20 were ruled out. I'm just struggling to make heads or tails because the people I know who I think would be most concerned are pretty low key. Which raises more questions than answers. I kind of wish we'd just suspend non essential operations but I understand why that won't happen soon.
 
Handwashing and avoiding face touching are good! That also helps slow things down. But the potential disaster isn't at the individual behavior level, it's at the public health level. Good Hygiene is not the entire answer.
That's why you avoid crowds.... The person who's coughing/sneeezing on your has to be within 5 feet or so from you(or maybe it's less, I can't remember for sure)
 

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So they suspended work (the game) because a ref was in close proximity to a player (Gobert) that was preliminarily tested positive for coronavirus.
I find that incredibly weak. I guess there will be no work done in the USA - indefinitely - according to the NBA.
I mean... ideally, these quarantine measures would happen at THE START of an outbreak, not 2 months in or whatever we are now. But better late than never.

China has actually gained some control of the Covid19 situation by locking **** down as only an authoritarian government can (it'll be interesting to see if cases tick back up after they loosen the lock down). I imagine we'll see a decline in cases in Italy in the coming months now that they've shut it down.

It totally sucks that these measures have to be taken, but as Insomniacal Fan noted in their excellent post above, it's about how much our hospitals can handle. US medicine is woefully unprepared for an outbreak like this. We gotta slow it down somehow.
How in the world are you going to slow it down by not playing games even with no fans in the stands? That's a panic move. We better start getting a grip. I totally understand the fact that the main problem is the number of people who could be infected and therefore the medical system could be overwhelmed, but not having games even when there are no fans in the stands is ridiculous. If you follow the NBA way, EVERYBODY SHOULD STAY AT HOME. INDEFINITELY. That's ridiculous.
 
I'm not here to cause trouble or debate but I would be suspicious for now about any news that the crises is over in China. There is a lot of conflicting information and China has a lot to lose from all this. A small example, here in Australia business in Chinese restaurants is down in some cases 60-80 percent.
All I know for sure is that I'm glad my days as a health care worker are over.
 
So they suspended work (the game) because a ref was in close proximity to a player (Gobert) that was preliminarily tested positive for coronavirus.
I find that incredibly weak. I guess there will be no work done in the USA - indefinitely - according to the NBA.


How in the world are you going to slow it down by not playing games even with no fans in the stands? That's a panic move. We better start getting a grip. I totally understand the fact that the main problem is the number of people who could be infected and therefore the medical system could be overwhelmed, but not having games even when there are no fans in the stands is ridiculous. If you follow the NBA way, EVERYBODY SHOULD STAY AT HOME. INDEFINITELY. That's ridiculous.
Even with no fans, there are players, there are staff. While, basketball is a close-contact ball games. All the players could easily get infected.
 
Just the fact that an NBA player has it, tells me that the 1,300 currently infected in the US is way off. Heck, one of us on this forum could have had it and not even known it..... Once you have it though, and it runs it's cycle and you recover from it, it's not like you are going to get it again anytime soon...

The good news is, increased awareness is the best way to slow this virus down! Then it become much more manageable....
I only wish people with the regular Flu would have practiced common sense, the death rate would have been lower....
 
Just the fact that an NBA player has it, tells me that the 1,300 currently infected in the US is way off. Heck, one of us on this forum could have had it and not even known it..... Once you have it though, and it runs it's cycle and you recover from it, it's not like you are going to get it again anytime soon...

The good news is, increased awareness is the best way to slow this virus down! Then it become much more manageable....
I only wish people with the regular Flu would have practiced common sense, the death rate would have been lower....
News is that some people actually get it again!
 
So they suspended work (the game) because a ref was in close proximity to a player (Gobert) that was preliminarily tested positive for coronavirus.
I find that incredibly weak. I guess there will be no work done in the USA - indefinitely - according to the NBA.


How in the world are you going to slow it down by not playing games even with no fans in the stands? That's a panic move. We better start getting a grip. I totally understand the fact that the main problem is the number of people who could be infected and therefore the medical system could be overwhelmed, but not having games even when there are no fans in the stands is ridiculous. If you follow the NBA way, EVERYBODY SHOULD STAY AT HOME. INDEFINITELY. That's ridiculous.

I agree, that would throw this economy into a great depression.......