Corey Brewer?

Dime Dropper

Dime Dropper

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Theres been alot of threads recently about all the big fellas, but I was wondering what you all think of Brewer? With our pick, I think it's possible that all the good big men will be gone and I think Brewer would be a very nice pick.

He's a lockdown defender, improving on offense and very long and athletic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P77gIxsOQ2I

^^ Breaks someones ankles in that clip.

We would be set for years at the SF and SG spots with him and Martin. I'm not giving up on Cisco, but Cisco is a good energy player off the bench and he doesn't have the upside of Brewer.

Theres time to trade for another pick or to get a big next year, or we could always get a big through a trade or FA, no point drafting a big for the sake of it.

What do you all think?

Here's a nice spin move: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55tmgaV_WXc

He also seems like a very happy person and a good teammate! :)
 
dime dropper said:
Theres been alot of threads recently about all the big fellas, but I was wondering what you all think of Brewer? With our pick, I think it's possible that all the good big men will be gone and I think Brewer would be a very nice pick.

He's a lockdown defender, improving on offense and very long and athletic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P77gIxsOQ2I

^^ Breaks someones ankles in that clip.

We would be set for years at the SF and SG spots with him and Martin. I'm not giving up on Cisco, but Cisco is a good energy player off the bench and he doesn't have the upside of Brewer.

Theres time to trade for another pick or to get a big next year, or we could always get a big through a trade or FA, no point drafting a big for the sake of it.

What do you all think?

Here's a nice spin move: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55tmgaV_WXc

He also seems like a very happy person and a good teammate! :)
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There's already a Brewer thread.

http://www.kingsfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18080&highlight=Corey+Brewer
 
dime dropper said:
Theres been alot of threads recently about all the big fellas, but I was wondering what you all think of Brewer? With our pick, I think it's possible that all the good big men will be gone and I think Brewer would be a very nice pick.

He's a lockdown defender, improving on offense and very long and athletic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P77gIxsOQ2I

^^ Breaks someones ankles in that clip.

We would be set for years at the SF and SG spots with him and Martin. I'm not giving up on Cisco, but Cisco is a good energy player off the bench and he doesn't have the upside of Brewer.

Theres time to trade for another pick or to get a big next year, or we could always get a big through a trade or FA, no point drafting a big for the sake of it.

What do you all think?

Here's a nice spin move: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55tmgaV_WXc

He also seems like a very happy person and a good teammate! :)
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I agree with the sentiment. If there are no quality big men available, don't waste a draft pick. Might as well take someone like Green or Brewer if they are available and worry about taking a big man next year if there is one. Yeah, we need a big man badly. But we also need talent badly. Personally, I love Hibbert and think he could fall to us. But if he doesn't fall to us or if the Kings scouting does not think the guy will be very good, then get Green or Hibbert. It's not like we're not going to need a good SF in the next year or two...or sooner.
 
I would take a guy like Thaddeus Young over a guy like Brewer. Young has a much better game than Brewer imo.
 
hehe nah, Fazekas ONLY if we traded someone who had a late 1st rd pick for that pick and a decent player in exchange for our 10th/11th pick which we will likely have.
 
I really like Brewer, but he seems more of a quality role player than an impact guy, and we already have duplicates in Salmons and Garcia.
 
I could really see Brewer becoming a Josh Howard type, at that point you really question if he's just a role player. Howard is making a huge impact on the mavs. Brewer will never be a cornerstone though, just a solid starter.
 
If all the good bigs were gone, then I would switch from looking at our #1 need, to looking at our #2 need and the best player available. But what is our #2 need? Most of us would probably say a quality PG; Ronnie has potential, but whether he has enough to ever be thought of as starter-quality is very much debatable. And while Bibby may still be around several months from now, it seems very unlikely that he will be a King 3 years down the road, so we need to start thinking about not just a backup but a replacement. From this perspective, maybe we should be giving Acie Law a thorough looking at.

On the other hand, just as this year is a bumper crop in terms of bigs, next year's draft will be heavy with PGs. And what if management is totally determined to unload Ron this summer, no matter how little they get in return? Brewer may not have a great offensive game at this point, but I love his speed + athleticism on defense, and think he might well be the best defender available by our pick. While he might never rise to Artest's level as an overall player, the things which are wrong with him now can probably be overcome with a little time and effort, and I'm sure that some team is going to be very happy with him. He makes me think of Kevin Martin, if you left them with the same natural talents but gave them almost opposite skills.

So I'd say it all boils down to draft day opportunities, and management's plans. IF the bigs are gone, IF Bibby will be staying, and IF Artest won't be, I think Brewer might be a very good choice. But those are some big IFs.
 
Defensive wing should never be drafted in the lottery. What's the point when we can always sign a Julius Hodge, Ime Udoka, or Rawe Marshall for the minimun? Brewer is good, but he is NOT that much better than, say Ime Udoka.

Teams that drafted defensive wings usually came to regret it.
 
beb0p said:
Defensive wing should never be drafted in the lottery. What's the point when we can always sign a Julius Hodge, Ime Udoka, or Rawe Marshall for the minimun? Brewer is good, but he is NOT that much better than, say Ime Udoka.

Teams that drafted defensive wings usually came to regret it.
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Olivier St. Jean anyone?
 
BMiller52 said:
The only "not big man" I want us to draft is a PG. Conley, Lawson, or Law please. In that order.
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I'm a UNC fan and I love Lawson as a college player, but I just don't project him being better than Conley and Law. It's a tough decision between those two, Conley has the better upside but I think with his slight frame, lack d, and lack jump shot he's a possible telfair type bust. Too much of his game is just quickness and ball handling and that doesn't take you as far in the NBA as it does in college. If we're going to get a shoot first pg like conley I'd rather someone who can actually shoot like Law. Law is clutch, can shoot, plays good defense with great pg size, and is a solid playmaker. I see Law as being able to adapt any kind of system because of his bball IQ, he's a much better all around player than Conley.
 
I really think Conley is a pretty good play maker. He's getting 6 APG as a freshman. He's pretty athletic too from what I've seen. And also a good defender but I dunno, I haven't paid too much attention to his D.
 
BMiller52 said:
I really think Conley is a pretty good play maker. He's getting 6 APG as a freshman. He's pretty athletic too from what I've seen. And also a good defender but I dunno, I haven't paid too much attention to his D.
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He's an ok-good playmaker, but he's not a pass first pg. Once he's in the NBA his quickness won't take him as far as he won't be able to penetrate against the NBA bigs. His lack of strength concerns me and reminds me of Telfair. I could be wrong though, I'm not a great judge of talent or anything.
 
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beb0p said:
Defensive wing should never be drafted in the lottery. What's the point when we can always sign a Julius Hodge, Ime Udoka, or Rawe Marshall for the minimun? Brewer is good, but he is NOT that much better than, say Ime Udoka.

Teams that drafted defensive wings usually came to regret it.
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You're right, I'm sure the Bulls are still pissed they traded Sgt. Polynice for Pippen. And Shane Battier was a stupid lottery pick too.

I completely agree with fnordius. If the value where we are selecting is in the 2-3 position, and it is highly probable that it will be, go ahead and pull the trigger on a guy like Green, Brewer, Rush, or even Afflalo. Worry about having too many potential All-Stars in the backcourt later. I'd rather have that problem than Kevin Martin and a huge bust like McRoberts.
 
Venom said:
You're right, I'm sure the Bulls are still pissed they traded Sgt. Polynice for Pippen. And Shane Battier was a stupid lottery pick too.

I completely agree with fnordius. If the value where we are selecting is in the 2-3 position, and it is highly probable that it will be, go ahead and pull the trigger on a guy like Green, Brewer, Rush, or even Afflalo. Worry about having too many potential All-Stars in the backcourt later. I'd rather have that problem than Kevin Martin and a huge bust like McRoberts.
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I agree with the BEST PLAYER available mentality too...however, this draft is loaded with PF and C types and we will probably end up with a top 12 pick. It'll be interesting to see what happens come June.
 
Vlade4GM said:
if you're trying to say that Brewer is Christie, I'd have to disagree just on the grounds that he can't handle the ball like Christie could.
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No, not trying to say he's the next Christie, I hate comparisons like that because they're always inaccurate. I was just pointing out that drafting a defensively-minded SF/SG type isn't necessarily a regrettable mistake. Josh Howard, Gerald Wallace, there are a number of very good players of that description, they get drafted every year, and I don't see GMs kicking themselves over it, if nobody better is available and that is what their team needs. And maybe ours will need one. I gave up trying to read management's mind a year ago, but it seems like a possibility.
 
Hmmm, OK. I had been reading the opposite, just earlier today. I guess we'll know for sure one of these days...
http://www.columbusdispatch.com/dispatch/content/sports/stories/2007/03/28/conley.html
Ignore speculation; Conley will return to OSU, father says
Wednesday, March 28, 2007 4:34 PM
By Todd Jones
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH
The father of Mike Conley Jr. reiterated yesterday that his son intends to return to Ohio State for his sophomore season despite Internet speculation that the Buckeyes' point guard might enter this year's NBA draft. “Mike is not thinking about going pro,” Conley Sr. said. “Nothing has changed.”
[..........]
Conley dismissed a report yesterday that an unnamed agent told an ESPN blogger that his son and Oden are both entering the NBA draft this spring. “My main concern is just when someone close to us — me, Mike's mom, Greg's mom, or (OSU coach) Thad (Matta) — says something,” Conley Sr. said. “That's the only time I'm concerned with the issue. Outside of that, it's just people talking.”
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I don't see why he doesn't atleast enter and see where he'd go. He's the best PG prospect if he enters and 08 is a guard heavy draft.
 
fnordius said:
No, not trying to say he's the next Christie, I hate comparisons like that because they're always inaccurate. I was just pointing out that drafting a defensively-minded SF/SG type isn't necessarily a regrettable mistake. Josh Howard, Gerald Wallace, there are a number of very good players of that description, they get drafted every year, and I don't see GMs kicking themselves over it, if nobody better is available and that is what their team needs. And maybe ours will need one. I gave up trying to read management's mind a year ago, but it seems like a possibility.
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GW and Josh Howard were not strictly defensive wing players... and they were not taken in the lottery.

My point is not to avoid defensive wings altogether, but simply pick a player with higher ceiling than a role player when picking in the lottery. Especially in this draft, we should get someone who is at least a solid starter/borderline all-star.
 
fnordius said:
No, not trying to say he's the next Christie, I hate comparisons like that because they're always inaccurate. I was just pointing out that drafting a defensively-minded SF/SG type isn't necessarily a regrettable mistake. Josh Howard, Gerald Wallace, there are a number of very good players of that description, they get drafted every year, and I don't see GMs kicking themselves over it, if nobody better is available and that is what their team needs. And maybe ours will need one. I gave up trying to read management's mind a year ago, but it seems like a possibility.
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Well that I agree with you about. I don't think it will have to come to that for us though, we'll be in the lottery.
 
If we could be sooo lucky...

We're going to have to lose every-single-game from here on out. He'd be great at the the three, and yes, I'm assuming Artest is gone.
 
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