congratulations to the suns

I didn't bother reading their board, but I would cut them just the tiniest bit of slack if they were excited about the block/non-goal-tending call.......it may be the first defensive play they have seen their team make all year.;)
 
i know right

thats why i think its sucha joke that Amare said that people call him the enforcer...whata crock of crap
 
Bricklayer said:
well yes, but you take any team's key player out (except us of course -- we're like the Black Knight in MPs Holy Grail) and that team falls on hard times. The Spurs are pretty much an average team disguised as a great one by Duncan too.

Bigger issue with the Suns isn't that Nash absolutely makes them go, but that they just aren't built for the long haul. Nobody's runned and gunned their way to a title since...well, maybe ever. Even the great Showtime Laker teams were also able to work brilliantly in the post with a bevy of elite post players in Kareem, Magic, Worthy. Things slow down in the playoffs. When they do, that's not going to be good for the Suns at all. Throw in Nash's tendency to tire out as the season wears on and its just a team built to score big now rather than hoist a trophy come June.

Well, I would venture to say that Duncan, though great, has taken a back seat to their emerging stars this year, and missing Duncan wouldn't decimate them as some people suggest. Ginobli may be getting a little too much more love than he really deserves, but he's the real deal in my opinion.

As for the Suns, it's what I've been saying from the beginning. The most overrated team in the NBA, and I'm just waiting for the moment that dorks like Stein and other Suns bandwagoners fall on their faces come playoff time. Their biggest folly was shown last night in the first half: contain Nash and slow down the game, and get ready to pull away. The Suns' half-court game stands on very weak legs because, ultimately, they have no room to run. No running for them = little possibility in creating an open shot. Unfortunately, the Kings just didn't play the full 48 minutes, which ultimately cost them the game (moreso than any horrible call by the refs). When you let running teams like the Suns dictate the pace, it's hard to keep up, as teams found out about the Kings of a few years ago (and as we found out last night).
 
the spurs are a .500 team without Tim (at least) while the Suns are at the bottom of the division the conference and the league without Nash
 
iheartBrad said:
the spurs are a .500 team without Tim (at least) while the Suns are at the bottom of the division the conference and the league without Nash
Personally I think that says more to the quality of the Spurs team as compared to the quality of the Suns team, then the greatness of Nash.
 
no one on that team, except nash should be talking ****! because if i remember correctly last year without nash they won 29 games!
 
Ill congratulate them when they

A. Win a game without Nash
B. Get to the conference finals and dont get killed


I do like Nash though.
 
I just hope this is the last straw that breaks the camels back for the Kings. With those scathing comments by Stoudemire at the end of the game, I know everyone has said maybe this will be the time on numerous occasions this season, but this may actually be it. I expect public a$$ whippings of the the Sonics on Thursday and Dallas on Fri. Than come playoff time.......



























Second round and out. :(
 
Damn, sh**, that Kidd_Karma guy in that Phoenix forum really pissed me off... I want to punch that guy...

F*** Y** Kidd_Karma...
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vj9999 said:
I just can't see how any honest, biased fan (which we all are) can not whine about what happened last night. It is not something that only Kings fans do. Any loyal fan would do it to.

Go Kings.

I can't belive how many sour grapes are on this board. Once again, we missed free throws, lost our composure by having 2 techs called and blown dunks. We had our opportunities and the advantage. It was ours to win. Everybody should quit whining and complaining. Will it ever stop? Kings fans and Kings players whining aobut blown calls. At some point it has to stop. I,ve been a Kings fan for years and I really am sick of it. It's become an embarrasment....Just shut up and play and more importantly...be a professional.
 
Elektrik said:
I can't belive how many sour grapes are on this board. Once again, we missed free throws, lost our composure by having 2 techs called and blown dunks. We had our opportunities and the advantage. It was ours to win. Everybody should quit whining and complaining. Will it ever stop? Kings fans and Kings players whining aobut blown calls. At some point it has to stop. I,ve been a Kings fan for years and I really am sick of it. It's become an embarrasment....Just shut up and play and more importantly...be a professional.

Find another team to root for. :mad: We all know that there were far more important negatives than a blown call. But this was a tough pill to swallow and still 24 hours later people are still pissed. Let fans be fans at least for tonight, and then tommorrow, we all move on to the next game.
 
Elektrik said:
I can't belive how many sour grapes are on this board. Once again, we missed free throws, lost our composure by having 2 techs called and blown dunks. We had our opportunities and the advantage. It was ours to win. Everybody should quit whining and complaining. Will it ever stop? Kings fans and Kings players whining aobut blown calls. At some point it has to stop. I,ve been a Kings fan for years and I really am sick of it. It's become an embarrasment....Just shut up and play and more importantly...be a professional.

I refuse to be compared to a sour grape. I always considered myself an orange or a pineapple. :)

I don't know you but you sound like a strawberry. Go have a smoothie.
 
Elektrik said:
I can't belive how many sour grapes are on this board. Once again, we missed free throws, lost our composure by having 2 techs called and blown dunks. We had our opportunities and the advantage. It was ours to win. Everybody should quit whining and complaining. Will it ever stop? Kings fans and Kings players whining aobut blown calls. At some point it has to stop. I,ve been a Kings fan for years and I really am sick of it. It's become an embarrasment....Just shut up and play and more importantly...be a professional.

Obviously we made many mistakes in the game prior to the last 4 seconds. So did the Suns, that's the nature of basketball. The point is, despite our mistakes, we were in a position to take the game into overtime and redeem ourselves. Some of us (and definitely most of the Kings) feel like that was taken away by a missed call by a ref. I don't think there is a team in basketball that wouldn't be griping given the situation.

Yes, the Kings have a reputation for complaining about the refs, and it's not very productive. I think many of the players have gotten better, but that's just my opinion. But in a game that was as important and emotional I really don't think many teams/fans would have reacted differently.
 
Grow up!

Elektrik said:
I can't belive how many sour grapes are on this board. Once again, we missed free throws, lost our composure by having 2 techs called and blown dunks. We had our opportunities and the advantage. It was ours to win. Everybody should quit whining and complaining. Will it ever stop? Kings fans and Kings players whining aobut blown calls. At some point it has to stop. I,ve been a Kings fan for years and I really am sick of it. It's become an embarrasment....Just shut up and play and more importantly...be a professional.
Kings players should worry about what they can CONTROL, be it making free throws, attempting to play transition defense, avoiding temper tantrums, boxing out and playing smart basketball.

What is the big deal if a ref makes ONE mistake in a game? The players made NUMEROUS mistakes in the game and let the game slip away from them. Each and every mistake of the Kings had an equal or greater impact on the game result as the mistake made by the ref. If the Kings REALLY want to win a championship, they better stop their posturing playing "victim" and start developing some killer instinct.

Respect is earned in this league. You don't get respect by publicly berating refs, you lose whatever little you have. That is the reality. Is it too much to expect a player to use a little portion of their brain to compose themself when things aren't going their way? Dropping f-bombs and acting like spoilt brats is unbecoming of an adult let alone a well paid ball player representing a city. Be a professional, do everything possible to change everything in your control to your benefit and don't waste time on things that you can't control.

It is unfortunate that after the recent gutsy, scrappy wins with so many injuries, the Kings get to be judged by others by their whining after losses. We have a team that is capable of winning a championship. Let's put on a thrashing on those Sonics and avenge for the two losses they handed us in this season. Go Kings!

I could care less about certain Kings fans for whom whining and making excuses has become almost second nature. It's annoying, but as a fan you gotta have feelings when your team gets on the wrong end of calls or non-calls. It is understandable and ok as it does not affect the game itself. I appreciate them being a fan of this team on their own terms.
 
coolhandluke said:
Kings players should worry about what they can CONTROL, be it making free throws, attempting to play transition defense, avoiding temper tantrums, boxing out and playing smart basketball.

What is the big deal if a ref makes ONE mistake in a game? The players made NUMEROUS mistakes in the game and let the game slip away from them. Each and every mistake of the Kings had an equal or greater impact on the game result as the mistake made by the ref. If the Kings REALLY want to win a championship, they better stop their posturing playing "victim" and start developing some killer instinct.

Respect is earned in this league. You don't get respect by publicly berating refs, you lose whatever little you have. That is the reality. Is it too much to expect a player to use a little portion of their brain to compose themself when things aren't going their way? Dropping f-bombs and acting like spoilt brats is unbecoming of an adult let alone a well paid ball player representing a city. Be a professional, do everything possible to change everything in your control to your benefit and don't waste time on things that you can't control.

It is unfortunate that after the recent gutsy, scrappy wins with so many injuries, the Kings get to be judged by others by their whining after losses. We have a team that is capable of winning a championship. Let's put on a thrashing on those Sonics and avenge for the two losses they handed us in this season. Go Kings!

I could care less about certain Kings fans for whom whining and making excuses has become almost second nature. It's annoying, but as a fan you gotta have feelings when your team gets on the wrong end of calls or non-calls. It is understandable and ok as it does not affect the game itself. I appreciate them being a fan of this team on their own terms.

I agree that the King's reputation of whining and complaining about calls only hurts them in the long run. I do feel we get less respect than other teams from the refs, and I'm sure this is part of it.

However, I really think last night was understandable. It wasn't just ONE mistake, it was a mistake that kept the game from going into overtime. Yes, each player had cost us many missed points during the game, but as long as there is time still on the clock the team is able to recover. Mistakes of any type (whether it's a missed call or a missed shot, or a bad foul) made in the last 4 seconds of regulation are obviously more important because there is no way to recover. If that call had been made in the middle of the third quarter it would have been forgotten long ago regardless of who won the game.
 
this that shuda-kuda wooda,,,,if we had'nt made those mistakes,we win by 6-8 points easy,the KINGS are a better TEAM than the SUNS! The suns can get congradulations from their own fans,not me!!!:mad:
 
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Just one thing. We definitely need to stop whining. The block was actually a goal tending, get over it!

I'd be more concerned by the fact the Kings fell into Suns trap like they used to fall into Mavs trap a couple of years ago. The same all story! That makes me sad. How long will it take Adelman to realize that Nash brought the Suns back into the game? He should have put Cat on him early in the second quarter, period. And theres no refs in the Suns comeback, face it.

We suck. See that's why I dislike so much Adelman. It's like the guy doesn't learn from his mistakes. Oh yeah Kings pulled out a win against the 'weak' T-Wolves, but check out what Kings have been doing since then.

The equation is so simple : same coach, same mistakes over and over again which result in no improvement. The saddest thing about it.
 
gangdogu said:
Just one thing. We definitely need to stop whining. The block was actually a goal tending, get over it!

I'd be more concerned by the fact the Kings fell into Suns trap like they used to fall into Mavs trap a couple of years ago. The same all story! That makes me sad. How long will it take Adelman to realize that Nash brought the Suns back into the game? He should have put Cat on him early in the second quarter, period. And theres no refs in the Suns comeback, face it.

We suck. See that's why I dislike so much Adelman. It's like the guy doesn't learn from his mistakes. Oh yeah Kings pulled out a win against the 'weak' T-Wolves, but check out what Kings have been doing since then.

The equation is so simple : same coach, same mistakes over and over again which result in no improvement. The saddest thing about it.

Funny, what I saw us do since that T-Wolves game was pull out a series of unlikely undermanned victories with the entire first team in street clothes and play the #2 in the league to a draw before losing the game on a bad call. Truly a terrible stretch. :rolleyes:

Perhaps people are just seriously delusional about whether the Suns are a good team or not? Right now they remain on pace to win 60+ games. They dropped 115(?) on the Spurs a couple of weeks ago coached by that weak kneed nincampoop Popovich.

The sad part is that there is a kernel of truth underneath -- we DID play the game at the Suns pace the same way we used to play the game at the Mavericks pace. Of course now with Cat, we can do that. In fact I think that is exactly what we had in mind. Nobody can outscore us when we're healthy anymore (and lest anyone forget we STILL aren't healthy and will not be until we get back one of the 10 most prolific per48 scorers in the league as our 6th man). We aren't the old Riley Knicks -- we're the #2 scoring team in the league. We like to get out and go too.

As an aside, Cat had very little luck with Nash himself yesterday. In fact veyr few teams have had any luck slowing down Nash this year.
 
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