Congratulations Dallas and Peja!

can't expect peja to play heavy mins in a finals game... he is a shell of his formerself... man that back really ruined him. :( it was always fun to watch him move with out the ball and somewhere lose his defender and launch that three. oh don't get me started on his pump fake jabstep shot that was always money.

overall its a great cap to the season. stern must be dying inside saying congratulations to cuban LOL

The main thing was Peja wasn't hitting his shots and due to his position he'd have to matchup with LeBron (DISASTER). Brian Cardinal on the other hand, had the good fortune of only having to guard Joel Anthony, Juwan Howard, Udonis Haslem and Chris Bosh. Bosh of course is a good player, but he wouldn't be able to dominate Cardinal the same way James could destroy Peja due to sheer athletic ability and strength. So defensively, Cardinal was from as big a liability as Peja, and he filled in well by hitting the shots that Peja was missing earlier in the series.
 
Congrats Mavs and Peja. I also don't understand why people would hate Peja (who played very well against Dirk during our run). Everyone on the Mavs team contributes, whether it's practice, waving towels and playing few minutes. They all deserve it one way or another.

Lebron can never be compare to............









...Dirk Nowitzki.
 
Congrats Mavs and Peja. I also don't understand why people would hate Peja (who played very well against Dirk during our run). Everyone on the Mavs team contributes, whether it's practice, waving towels and playing few minutes. They all deserve it one way or another.

Lebron can never be compare to............









...Dirk Nowitzki.

All I can say about Lebron is that the real greats and legends of the game would never say "Sometimes you got it, sometimes you don't", at least not during the finals.

This whole series has just shown me that LeBron never takes responsibility for his actions. Cleveland not winning a championship? Not LeBron's fault. Mocking Dirk? Nope they totally weren't mocking him, they were ... mocking the media or something like that? His performance in the finals? Sometimes he got it, sometimes he don't. Not his fault.

I mean seriously, nobody is perfect. But grow a pair and own up to your shortcomings won't you? Compare what he says to what Kobe said/says when the Lakers didn't win championships. From my memory Kobe takes it on himself, says the team didn't reach their goal, that it was on them and that they'd come back stronger. What kind of GOAT candidate says "sometimes the basketball gods smile on me and I play well, other times they don't and I don't play well. Don't blame me"
 
LeBron had the potential to be the greatest ever. But it is clear to me now that he simply does not have the mentality for it and is much better off being the second banana. Frankly it upset me to see someone who has more talent than anyone who has ever played be okay with being the second best player on his own team. I think everyone who loves sports loses a little bit because of it.
 
Peja's ring with Dallas is worth about as much or less than Mitch's ring that he got with LA.

I see you didnt watch the early rounds. Peja was a big part of them getting past portland and the lakers. Mitch didnt get anything but garbage time all year with the Lakers.
 
It's really shallow to determine whether he deserved the ring just based on a few games in finals. Season doesn't start with the final game and it takes a lot of work to come to that spot. Peja was integral part of the team since he arrived, played big roles against Portland and Lakers, smaller role against OKC and almost nothing in the finals.

The way I see it, the guy who is two time 3 point champion, 3 time all star and 4th 3 point shooter in the history of the game(based on 3Ps he made), deserved to win the trophy. Not to mention that he probly would've won it already if it wasn't for the refs in 2002.

I personally enjoyed watching all of those guys from the WCF against Lakers 2002. They were Sacramento players in its most exciting era, they were amazing players, they were loyal to their fans... No reason to hate any of them.
 
Although I can't say I'm happy Cuban has a championship (I can't seem to like the guy), I'm sort of happy for Dirk. I'm always glad to see some team other SA/LA/Boston win the Finals, and I really dislike seeing a team like Miami try to buy a championship (that's what it seems to me).
 
Btw. here's Peja's contribution to this team in Playoffs:

 
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What exactly in 2002-2006? Personally, though I was rooting for Peja, I don't think either he or Bibby deserved it more than the other.

But Peja was one of the few All-Stars to come through the Kings. Not to mention winning the three point contest, and having quite a few amazing games. And our free-throw consecutive made record.

So what about him makes you hate him so much? That's a very strong term.

Well, I've been a Kings Fan since rather before Stojakovic's tenure in Sacramento, and I saw just about everything he did on the court in a Kings uniform, so when I say
"I've hated Stojakovic since 2002," I'll thank you kindly to take it as understood that I am, in fact, aware of those achievements that you praise Stojakovic for, and I am not impressed with them at all, nor are they at all sufficient in swaying my opinion of him.

I do not like Stojakovic, and I do not like players who play like Stojakovic. I detest soft-ish, non-rebounding, 6'10"+ "forwards," who camp out by the three-point line. In fact, I'm old school enough in my point of view that I don't actually like the three-point shot at all, and tend to believe that it is largely responsible for the decline of good basketball. In my world view, to my way of thinking, forwards should not play like he plays, and those that do offend my sensibilties. If he were a guard, I might not mind him so much, but he's a forward, so I hate him. I also fully admit that I resent the fact that the organization decided to go with him instead of Webber in 2005, a decision that, in my opinion, he only added to the insult by proving rather conclusively that he was absoultely unworthy of being the beneficiary of that decision.

As far as rooting for him because of not winning a championship in 2002, I don't really give a ****. I'm just not wired that way. In fact, with the sole three exceptions Gerald Wallace, Chris Webber (who is the only King I ever rooted for before he came to Sacramento) and Lawrence Funderburke, I have an overwhelming propensitiy to not give a **** about "ex-Kings." Once they're gone, they're the enemy, AFAIC. I don't root for Stojakovic, or Bibby, or Miller, or Martin, or Artest, or Hawes, or anyone else who used to play for Sacramento. **** 'em.
 
Well, I've been a Kings Fan since rather before Stojakovic's tenure in Sacramento, and I saw just about everything he did on the court in a Kings uniform, so when I say
"I've hated Stojakovic since 2002," I'll thank you kindly to take it as understood that I am, in fact, aware of those achievements that you praise Stojakovic for, and I am not impressed with them at all, nor are they at all sufficient in swaying my opinion of him.

I do not like Stojakovic, and I do not like players who play like Stojakovic. I detest soft-ish, non-rebounding, 6'10"+ "forwards," who camp out by the three-point line. In fact, I'm old school enough in my point of view that I don't actually like the three-point shot at all, and tend to believe that it is largely responsible for the decline of good basketball. In my world view, to my way of thinking, forwards should not play like he plays, and those that do offend my sensibilties. If he were a guard, I might not mind him so much, but he's a forward, so I hate him. I also fully admit that I resent the fact that the organization decided to go with him instead of Webber in 2005, a decision that, in my opinion, he only added to the insult by proving rather conclusively that he was absoultely unworthy of being the beneficiary of that decision.

As far as rooting for him because of not winning a championship in 2002, I don't really give a ****. I'm just not wired that way. In fact, with the sole three exceptions Gerald Wallace, Chris Webber (who is the only King I ever rooted for before he came to Sacramento) and Lawrence Funderburke, I have an overwhelming propensitiy to not give a **** about "ex-Kings." Once they're gone, they're the enemy, AFAIC. I don't root for Stojakovic, or Bibby, or Miller, or Martin, or Artest, or Hawes, or anyone else who used to play for Sacramento. **** 'em.

kings were done in '02 when webber went down. if we're really being honest, sactown went down in game six with horry's shot.

but don't be a joyless **** who sucks everything out of what should be an awesome moment for every nba fan outside of miami/lebronville. dirk winning it all is everything that's right in sport. **** you for dragging us down with meaningless bull**** about how, exactly, you measure peja's career. he brought this team a ton of joy after tragedy struck, and if you want to **** all over that, you can go enjoy a **** sandwich all by your lonesome self
 
dirks postgame 6 quoted as saying the addition of peja was huge and he played a vital part in the earlier rounds of the playoffs
 
Well, I've been a Kings Fan since rather before Stojakovic's tenure in Sacramento, and I saw just about everything he did on the court in a Kings uniform, so when I say
"I've hated Stojakovic since 2002," I'll thank you kindly to take it as understood that I am, in fact, aware of those achievements that you praise Stojakovic for, and I am not impressed with them at all, nor are they at all sufficient in swaying my opinion of him.

I do not like Stojakovic, and I do not like players who play like Stojakovic. I detest soft-ish, non-rebounding, 6'10"+ "forwards," who camp out by the three-point line. In fact, I'm old school enough in my point of view that I don't actually like the three-point shot at all, and tend to believe that it is largely responsible for the decline of good basketball. In my world view, to my way of thinking, forwards should not play like he plays, and those that do offend my sensibilties. If he were a guard, I might not mind him so much, but he's a forward, so I hate him. I also fully admit that I resent the fact that the organization decided to go with him instead of Webber in 2005, a decision that, in my opinion, he only added to the insult by proving rather conclusively that he was absoultely unworthy of being the beneficiary of that decision.

As far as rooting for him because of not winning a championship in 2002, I don't really give a ****. I'm just not wired that way. In fact, with the sole three exceptions Gerald Wallace, Chris Webber (who is the only King I ever rooted for before he came to Sacramento) and Lawrence Funderburke, I have an overwhelming propensitiy to not give a **** about "ex-Kings." Once they're gone, they're the enemy, AFAIC. I don't root for Stojakovic, or Bibby, or Miller, or Martin, or Artest, or Hawes, or anyone else who used to play for Sacramento. **** 'em.

Wow. 10k posts and you don't even like the team's players.
 
kings were done in '02 when webber went down. if we're really being honest, sactown went down in game six with horry's shot.

but don't be a joyless **** who sucks everything out of what should be an awesome moment for every nba fan outside of miami/lebronville. dirk winning it all is everything that's right in sport. **** you for dragging us down with meaningless bull**** about how, exactly, you measure peja's career. he brought this team a ton of joy after tragedy struck, and if you want to **** all over that, you can go enjoy a **** sandwich all by your lonesome self

I've got a better idea: don't start none, won't be none.

And, btw, Webber went down in 2003, not 2002.
 
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Simply amazing how some people think. I despice people with the attitude...."Screw you because I don't like how you play, therefor all your efforts, sweats, dedications and being there for fans meant nothing" but even worst "I hate you because you're not good enough" to add with that.
 
Simply amazing how some people think. I despice [sic] people with the attitude...."Screw you because I don't like how you play, therefor [sic] all your efforts, sweats [sic], dedications [sic] and being there for fans meant nothing" but even worst [sic] "I hate you because you're not good enough" to add with that.

Well, then, in that case, I'm sorry that I don't subscribe to the "PEJA!LOYALTY4EVER~!" hive-mind, and I'm sorry we can't all like the Kings the same way, for the same reasons. Damn that diversity and independent thought!
 
LOL diversity and independent thought...more like an angry hateful person to me.

And no, I don't expect everyone to like Peja, but "hate" him? I really don't care for ex player either but I have no problem wishing them the best...or at worst, not really care as in no opinion of them. But HATE.....holy moly.

this has nothing to do with how one like the Kings or loyalty to players....but it does show how unappreciative some people are in this world to the point that they would wish the worst for you if you did not meet their expectations.
 
LOL diversity and independent thought...more like an angry hateful person to me.

:: shrugs ::

You say "hateful person," I say pot-TAH-to.

And, if you don't mind, I'd like you to please cite evidence in my post of "wishing the worst" for anybody.
 
Maybe I took things out of context...just that you stated enemy....Usually we wish the worst for our enemies.

You're right...I shouldn't called you a hateful person, but somehow it does give me that impression. I also shouldn't used "despised"..more like dislike but I guess we're just wired that way.
 
Enemy, in this context, means simply the other team: I don't care whether Kevin Martin scores fifty for the Rockets, because I'm not a Rockets fan, and I don't care what happens to them.
 
I have a hard time comparing Martin with guys like Webber, Peja, Bibby...

This is nonsense. I don't really like Martin's game, but if he played with Webb and Vlade in our golden era, you guys would love him just as much or even more than Peja. His off the ball game would have been great running around screens and having Webb and Vlade finding him.
 
This is nonsense. I don't really like Martin's game, but if he played with Webb and Vlade in our golden era, you guys would love him just as much or even more than Peja. His off the ball game would have been great running around screens and having Webb and Vlade finding him.

But he didn't play in that era... that's why I have trouble to compare him to the guys who took the Kings to the WCF. Other than that, you're probably right.
 
kings were done in '02 when webber went down. if we're really being honest, sactown went down in game six with horry's shot.

but don't be a joyless **** who sucks everything out of what should be an awesome moment for every nba fan outside of miami/lebronville. dirk winning it all is everything that's right in sport. **** you for dragging us down with meaningless bull**** about how, exactly, you measure peja's career. he brought this team a ton of joy after tragedy struck, and if you want to **** all over that, you can go enjoy a **** sandwich all by your lonesome self

Damn man this thread is all kinds of fail. Like Slim said Webber went down in 03. Also Horry's shot that pretty much killed everything was in game 4 not 6. Kings playing 5 on 8, now that was in game 6.
 
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