Chris Paul available this off-season?

[91sickness]

According to an article in the New York Times, The Hornets are going to see major changes this off-season. One of those changes could be Chris Paul demanding a trade. I would be willing to give them our top pick and basically anyone they wanted off our roster for CP3. Just curious what everyone would be willing to give up in order to get him. I know this is a total long shot but if he demands a trade, we better be kicking their door down in attempt to get CP3.

"The New Orleans Hornets will soon be ousted from the NBA Playoffs and big-time changes on the court and on the bench could soon follow, according to the New York Times.
A year ago, the Hornets were the darlings of the NBA, a success story, whose rise to power was a symbol of the city's rebirth after Hurricane Katrina. That story, it appears, will not have a happy ending.
On Monday night, they were so dysfunctional or disengaged that they tied a 53-year-old NBA record for margin of defeat in a playoff game, according to the Times. The Hornets' sudden turmoil mirrors that of the Utah Jazz, another rising power that sputtered in midair. Utah made the conference finals in 2007, but showed little resolve in its first-round loss to the Lakers.
The Hornets already tried to trade Tyson Chandler in February, in a cost-cutting move. (The deal was rescinded after Chandler's physical.) It is considered a given that he will be shopped again this summer. Scott, who won coach of the year in 2008, could be fired, the Times reported. It also appears guard Chris Paul could force the Hornets to trade him."
Source: New York Times

 

[LWP777]

I just don't see it happening and I certainly don't see him coming to Sacramento because he's unhappy in New Orleans. With that said, I would give up the entire Kings roster for CP3. I think you could surround him with D League players and we would be better and more exciting that we were this year.

 

[Bricklayer]

Some rag tried to start a Chris Paul to be traded rumor a month or two ago, and Byron Scott laughed it off, as he should have. But obviously if he was available there is nothing, NOTHING on this roster you don't give up to get him.

Better yet gather up a JT led package to get Amare, and then spend anything and everything else to get Paul, and voila! Instant rebuild.

 

[Superman]

Chris Paul is one of the few "untouchables" in the NBA. Unless you have one of the few other "untouchables" (LBJ, Dwight Howard, Kobe, Roy, Yao), you don't have a shot in hell.

 

[NoBonus]

I am guessing if Chris Paul forces a trade, it will not ever be to Sacramento... Clevland? Boston? Lakers? Sure, but Sac? No way.

 

[LoungeLizard]

I am guessing if Chris Paul forces a trade, it will not ever be to Sacramento... Clevland? Boston? Lakers? Sure, but Sac? No way.

You forgot Portland. Portland is the perfect scenario and has the right pieces to make a trade like this happen.

Can you imagine a trio of Roy, Aldridge and CP3? I would say any combination of young pieces of which the Blazers have plenty would be available to NO to make that happen.

 

[pkballr]

Gotta love the New York media. They'll put just about any minute rumor in the paper. I mean, how many times did they shove the David Lee rumors down our throat just so Artest could be traded to Houston?

 

[Showtime]

You forgot Portland. Portland is the perfect scenario and has the right pieces to make a trade like this happen.

Can you imagine a trio of Roy, Aldridge and CP3? I would say any combination of young pieces of which the Blazers have plenty would be available to NO to make that happen.

Ironically, they could have had him but traded down and drafted Webster.

 

[Showtime]

Gotta love the New York media. They'll put just about any minute rumor in the paper. I mean, how many times did they shove the David Lee rumors down our throat just so Artest could be traded to Houston?

Cuban has made it known he will make a hard run at getting CP in a trade, even if it means taking the bad deals the financially struggling team has, such as Peja.

 

[rainmaker]

Not a chance CP3 ends up in Sac. I think its highly unlikely he isn't on the Hornets next year.

 

[Oprostaj]

You forgot Portland. Portland is the perfect scenario and has the right pieces to make a trade like this happen.

Can you imagine a trio of Roy, Aldridge and CP3? I would say any combination of young pieces of which the Blazers have plenty would be available to NO to make that happen.

Possible... would take a majority of Portland's young talent but something along the lines of Oden, Batum, Blake plus 2 picks or so. I'm guessing they would want Fernandez... depending on contracts of course. Remember, the management now firmly believes this group will not compete so I'm sure they're not looking for equal value. maybe it won't be as much of a rape as the Gasol trade was but would not surprise me a bit if it was lopsided. With all the money being lost I don't think they value talent level right now. In this economy smart people will make the rich richer and the poor poorer.

 

[SacKings7]

Chris Paul isn't going anywhere. End of story.

 

[kingsnation]

I want Byron Scott

 

[ForlornKing]

Just shows you that All-NBA pgs aren't the key to a championship...It will always be post play.

 

[Oprostaj]

Because the Rockets have won how may titles? Championships are won with Defense and superstars. Lakers, Pistons, Spurs. Duncan is not a center, no matter how many times the leauge tries to get us to buy into that. There is also, no actual dominant post player right now. Even Ming would rather take turnaround jumpshots than dominate the post. I'd take Paul or Williams over Ming/whatever else "center" you can plug in here...

 

[SacKings7]

Just shows you that All-NBA pgs aren't the key to a championship...It will always be post play.

It might help if your All-NBA pg had somebody on the team that doesn't stand around and shoot jumpers or wait for lob passes. Depth and defense might help too

 

[ForlornKing]

Because the Rockets have won how may titles? Championships are won with Defense and superstars. Lakers, Pistons, Spurs. Duncan is not a center, no matter how many times the leauge tries to get us to buy into that. There is also, no actual dominant post player right now. Even Ming would rather take turnaround jumpshots than dominate the post. I'd take Paul or Williams over Ming/whatever else "center" you can plug in here...

Do you watch the playoffs???

 

[Showtime]

It might help if your All-NBA pg had somebody on the team that doesn't stand around and shoot jumpers or wait for lob passes. Depth and defense might help too

The very fact that he's carried them to 56 wins and 49 wins with injuries should quell any debate about the importance of Paul at the point position.

 

[bigbadred00]

Very strong post D has been the main stay of just about every champion the last 20-30 years. Not every team has Shaq but they usually have 1 or 2 above average or even elite post defenders. Hakeem, Duncan, Shaq, Kareem were elite on both sides of the ball while Rodman, Sheed/Big Ben, KG/Perk, Laimbeer, etc. all had sick post D.

I would say efficient scoring and post D are the most common factors on most title teams. Chicago didn't have efficient bigs, but Michael was about as efficient as a guard as you can get same with Chauncey whose FG% sucks but his 3 point shooting and getting to the line a ton make him rather efficient.

 

[Bricklayer]

Just shows you that All-NBA pgs aren't the key to a championship...It will always be post play.

This is much more true than most people realize -- you can literally win a title with Jason Williams, Derek Fisher or Kenny Smith at the point -- but Paul is such a talent that if you have him you are always in the hunt and can spend the rest of his career just trying to find one or two post munchers to give him his shot. This isn't "we need an upper echelon PG to win a title" stuff (which history suggests is erroneous). This is "we need a superstar to win a title" stuff, where the correlation is almost 100% (the Pistons blip being about the only counterexample in the last 30 years).

 

[hrdboild]

Obviously post scoring is important. But I'd take Chris Paul any day of the week and worry about the post-scoring once I got him. We're talking about probably the best PG of his generation. I'm sure this is all smoke and no fire, but if there's even a small chance of getting Paul, New Orleans can have anyone on our roster and our draft pick.

 

[fnordius]

So you're tellin' me there's a chance..... YEAH!!!

 

[Oprostaj]

Do you watch the playoffs???

Do you have common sense??? What DOMINANT post play center is out there?? Who the hell would you take over Paul/Williams/Kobe/dominant guard?? Post defense is one thing, offensive post play the key to a championship is ridicilous. Unless I misread the original post.

 

[hrdboild]

Do you have common sense??? What DOMINANT post play center is out there?? Who the hell would you take over Paul/Williams/Kobe/dominant guard?? Post defense is one thing, offensive post play the key to a championship is ridicilous. Unless I misread the original post.

Well...Dwight Howard would be a dominant post scorer if his teammates ever got him the damn ball.

 

[Oprostaj]

yes he's the one and only. the exception but not the rule.

 

[Superman]

Do you have common sense??? What DOMINANT post play center is out there?? Who the hell would you take over Paul/Williams/Kobe/dominant guard?? Post defense is one thing, offensive post play the key to a championship is ridicilous. Unless I misread the original post.

Did you not see Game 1 of the Rockets/Blazers series? Yao gave the Blazers 24 points in 12 minutes on 9/9 shooting because they couldn't figure out how to guard him. That's dominance.

The only reason Yao hasn't killed the Blazers over and over again is because the team hasn't figured out that if you feed him low on the left block there's nothing the Blazers can do except double him before he gets the ball. But the disruption Yao has caused with the Blazers defense is because he is a dominant force. He's not a "yell in your face, dunk on your head" dominant force like Shaq, and he's not a "you can't stop me no matter if you make me catch the ball at halfcourt" kind of dominant like The Dream, but if the Rockets make a determination to feed Yao over and over again low on the left block, he would eat the Blazers -- and everyone else -- alive. And that's the only team in the West that has a reasonable chance of beating the Lakers, and only if they run it through Yao.

Dwight Howard is dominant, and 24 points and 24 rebounds says so, whether he's scoring with his back to the basket or not. Unfortunately, he doesn't have the moves that would make him unstoppable, but he's only a half-step away from taking the League over and shredding the opposition night after night. Except tomorrow night.

Aldridge doesn't know how good he is, and apparently neither does Nate McMillan, but if the guy learns how to pass out of the post half as well as guys like Chris Webber and Shaq could, he's going to be a force as well. Remember back in the early 2000s when the other Portland PF named Wallace would post the Lakers "bigs" up, over and over again, and shoot the turn-around jumper from either side of the rim over either shoulder? Now throw in superior athleticism and youth, and subtract the mental instability, and you have Aldridge. Once he develops a consistent jumphook, he's going to be a force also.

Amare Stoudemire is still in the League, and while he hasn't shown the desire to get down there and post up all game long, if he committed himself to being a post-up player and squelched his longing to be a shooting guard, he'd be on the list also.

I'm sorry, but the big man positions look better now than they did five years ago when it was only Duncan and Shaq.

 

[Smills91]

If Paul forces a trade, I don't think Sac is an unreasonable destination. Scott has publicly stated he like to coach the Kings or Lakers. Paul has publicly stated how much he likes Scott as his coach.

With that said, we HAVE the pieces to land a Paul type player(REBUILD pieces).

We off Thomas' expiring, TPE from our cap, Rights to our 2009 pick(Griffin/Rubio potentially), perhaps another 2010 first round pick or Hawes(if we get Chandler).

In return we take Paul/Stojakovic or Chandler off their hands.

The Hornets get pieces to rebuild with, get financial savings and get extremely good vaue for Paul.

Superstars NEVER get traded for other superstars, it's aways for rebuilding pieces. ALWAYS.

 

[vikinginferno]

If Paul forces a trade, I don't think Sac is an unreasonable destination. Scott has publicly stated he like to coach the Kings or Lakers. Paul has publicly stated how much he likes Scott as his coach.

With that said, we HAVE the pieces to land a Paul type player(REBUILD pieces).

We off Thomas' expiring, TPE from our cap, Rights to our 2009 pick(Griffin/Rubio potentially), perhaps another 2010 first round pick or Hawes(if we get Chandler).

In return we take Paul/Stojakovic or Chandler off their hands.

The Hornets get pieces to rebuild with, get financial savings and get extremely good vaue for Paul.

Superstars NEVER get traded for other superstars, it's aways for rebuilding pieces. ALWAYS.

Would you categorize Chauncey Billups and Allen Iverson superstars?

 

[Superman]

If Paul forces a trade, I don't think Sac is an unreasonable destination. Scott has publicly stated he like to coach the Kings or Lakers. Paul has publicly stated how much he likes Scott as his coach.

With that said, we HAVE the pieces to land a Paul type player(REBUILD pieces).

We off Thomas' expiring, TPE from our cap, Rights to our 2009 pick(Griffin/Rubio potentially), perhaps another 2010 first round pick or Hawes(if we get Chandler).

In return we take Paul/Stojakovic or Chandler off their hands.

The Hornets get pieces to rebuild with, get financial savings and get extremely good vaue for Paul.

Superstars NEVER get traded for other superstars, it's aways for rebuilding pieces. ALWAYS.

Good points, and while I'm not lobbying for Byron Scott to be the next coach, it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, especially considering the publicized alternatives.

 

[Smills91]

Would you categorize Chauncey Billups and Allen Iverson superstars?

During the era of their careers in which they were traded. NO. I'd say Billups is still an all-star caliber player that has a year or so left in his prime. Iverson is a declining superstar, who's no longer even an all-star caliber talent.

Is this the closest you can get?