CurseOfTheSalmons
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This makes zero sense. If they aren't going to let Pete hire his guy, why is Pete still employed?
Carmichael Dave innuendo, "We are officially at Defcon One"
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Chubbs
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It just cracks me up he's now trying to be the "voice of reason".
He has no power. He's barely keeping his job.
Sucking up to the fans by trying to look like he's the only guy wanting Karl is transparently stupid.
annihilator_33
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Well well well.....
Ailene Voisin @ailene_voisin 1m1 minute ago
DeMarcus Cousins' agent telling me they are not "blocking" Kings/Karl deal. Says if Kings want Karl then "make the move. We don't run team."
Ailene Voisin @ailene_voisin 1m1 minute ago
DeMarcus Cousins' agent telling me they are not "blocking" Kings/Karl deal. Says if Kings want Karl then "make the move. We don't run team."
Chubbs
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Thank you thank you thank you.
Of course it's nonsense. I think I've posted my thoughts on that like 9 times now.
Throwing Boogie under the bus could have some very serious ramifications, Petey. Be careful. You're one step from running campaigns for city council.
If PDA is in charge as he claims, and he wants Karl, what's the problem?
I know there is major hate for the kings FO and I agree with it. But, we can't assume who is leaking what. Haven't we learned SO MANY TIMES over the years that what ends up being truth is so far off base what was actually reported. A lot of this is just wanting to be the first to report ANYTHING.
LPKingsFan
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Chubbs
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That's a direct quote from cousins agent.
It's the only direct quote we have in this whole mess.
It's really the only solid reporting this far. An actual quote from an actual person whose name is not "source."
I understand agents lie, but he's the only guy to go on the record. And he probably doesn't like too much his name being dragged through the mud either.
Agents don't choose coaches. If the FO can't get it done that's on them.
rainmaker
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Shots fired.
That's a direct response to leaks from the weasels and leakers within our FO who are attempting to shift blame. And as I said earlier, this is the biggest issue. It's not George Karl, it's elements in our FO looking to blame Cuz and his people and use them as a scapegoat. That's the scariest aspect of all this.
This could have serious consequences down the road as Cuz remembers everything.
randymoss1881
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There were people in here who actually thought cousins camp was holding this. Haha come on it was a leak you know damn well Vivek/Mullin want Mullin coaching hiring Karl doesn't do that.
macadocious
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What is Bruski talking about on twitter right now?
HereWeBoogie
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"Oh **** someone actually talked to Cuz's agents. Quick, someone leak the next excuse!" - Kings FO
LPKingsFan
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If you're going to deny it on the record, though, why let it fester for so long? This whole thing is puzzling. The only thing I know for sure is that I don't know anything for sure.
I know it's the only quote. My point was we don't know who said it was Cousins or his camp that was a problem.
Chubbs
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The Bee has been pretty clear money is the issue the last 24 hours.
@Ailene_Voisin Coaching hires often come down to term and dollars. Bigger issue in Karl-Kings talks than resistance from Cousins' camp
8:46pm - 7 Feb 15
I trust the people who care about their reps enough to try to be right, like people who work for newspapers and not online.
@Ailene_Voisin Coaching hires often come down to term and dollars. Bigger issue in Karl-Kings talks than resistance from Cousins' camp
8:46pm - 7 Feb 15
I trust the people who care about their reps enough to try to be right, like people who work for newspapers and not online.
John Galt
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Aileen's tweet doesn't prove that DMC's agents were not holding up the deal. All sides are leaking/spinning/angling. Over what?? Money and power of course. I don't think Karl would be above throwing some napalm on the thing by leaking that DMC's side is a hold-up... Nor do I think Pete is above leaking that to try and position himself as a Karl champion who just couldn't get it done because of Boogie - secretly believing he can get two pacetastick players for Boogie in a trade.
To me a common denominator is that Pete and Vivek are conniving slippery dudes - I doubt we will ever know the truth.
I just hope we get Karl on the bench and start rockin Sleep Train again, and the snakes can all slither back to their holes (owners, GMs, agents).
To me a common denominator is that Pete and Vivek are conniving slippery dudes - I doubt we will ever know the truth.
I just hope we get Karl on the bench and start rockin Sleep Train again, and the snakes can all slither back to their holes (owners, GMs, agents).
Chubbs
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annihilator_33
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The structure of this ownership group is complete bull****
Chubbs
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It actually doesn't matter, cause neither cousins nor his camp are the decision makers.
They couldn't stop them if they wanted to. We've already seen them fire Malone. I just don't get why anyone would think Boogie suddenly has any pull given recent history.
And if Boogie doesn't like Karl, so? Lots of people dislike Karl. People in the Kings FO dislike Karl.
It's a far cry from refusing to play for the guy.
rainmaker
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Doesn't matter whether it proves they aren't holding up the deal. What matters is our franchise player and his agent feeling the need to respond to leaks from our FO aimed directly at them and putting the blame on them for incompetence and dysfunction within our FO.
That's the real issue and what we're witnessing is the relationship between Cuz and our FO/owner dissolving publicly before our eyes.
LPKingsFan
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The question is, which "elements of the FO." But that's the right term to use. I've seen other references to the "FO" above, and I don't think you can refer to the "FO" as a single entity anymore, at least as it pertains to this coaching mess.
Bruski's been saying the same thing, FWIW. I'm not sure the newspapers/online distinction holds in this day and age.
HereWeBoogie
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"make the move. we don't run team" can be interpreted many ways. such as "make the move, but we will not like it and we will be taking our superstar big man elsewhere"
Glenn
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This is a semi-official change from what they said about a month ago. Now I'm a bit puzzled as to the hang up unless it is Mullin.
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Chubbs
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It's really just a response to being blamed in the media.
It could also be a dare.
I know this is extreme but it wouldn't shock me to see Boogie in a different uniform in the all star game. I don't know how he holds it together as well as he has.
I'm just waiting for the FO to fire back at the agent now.
Real mature gentlemen.
Glenn
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The owners and their advisors like Mullin. I don't know as it is a great question.
Interesting thought. With all of the speculation that it must be either our FO or Cousins' camp leaking that, there is a third party involved here that could also be responsible.
HereWeBoogie
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"Here we have the data points of hiring a coach like George Karl"
Yeah, I think that's extreme.
Chubbs
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Starting a fight with your superstar seems like a bad idea
But anything is possible I suppose.
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