[Game] Bobcats-Kings - 1/4/14 - 7 p.m. PST

I would like to suggest we continue the process of elimination ... IT/JT/MT/Jimmer. Cousins is untouchable of course. That's all that remains from the old no defense culture. Even in our wins we haven't exactly been good defensively, and we still hear Coach Malone bemoaning the fact that some players don't want to take pride in their D. Well ... continue eliminating the possible players then!
 
The last seven years of basketball has taught me our best way at getting star talent is through drafting.
The only time this team was ever any good in Sacramento, it had little to do with being at the top of the lottery. As an interesting aside, the times this team has been at the top of the lottery it did not turn out too well. Not saying I would not welcome the top pick, but I will not cheer for losses. I dont think it is what this team needs.
 
The only time this team was ever any good in Sacramento, it had little to do with being at the top of the lottery. As an interesting aside, the times this team has been at the top of the lottery it did not turn out too well. Not saying I would not welcome the top pick, but I will not cheer for losses. I dont think it is what this team needs.
Yeah, but I was talking about the last seven years. We've gotten our team's best player and future leader in Cuz via the draft and luck (how he slipped to us).
 
I honestly think we got some great players, but it's an issue with chemistry right now. The players just don't like each other and until they do, we won't do well. Remember during the webber days when the players would hang out after the games and do stuff together?
I believe it also starts with playing styles. IT wants to run. Cousins is best when it's slowed down in a half court set -allows him to his best on offense where he can post up and also not expend so much energy running up and down. IT is at his best just running up and down. You have a major conflict right there to begin with.
 

VF21

Super Moderator Emeritus
SME
It's better for the team. It's not like a loss against a Play-Off team after two losses to average-below average teams will hurt us. We need a better chance at a top pick, simple as that. if you don't accept that as a option for success, then whatever.
Bullcrap. Total and utter bullcrap.

If you don't realize that we already have our franchise player and that we need to develop a TEAM mentality now, then you simply don't get it.

I'm tired of being nice and polite and letting people continue to act as though a draft pick is the most important thing we need right now. IT'S NOT. The upcoming draft is deep enough that we will get a quality player.

WE NEED OUR TEAM TO START PLAYING LIKE A TEAM.

WE NEED TO SEE DEFENSE.

WE NEED TO SEE SOMETHING RESEMBLING EFFORT ON BOTH ENDS OF THE COURT.

Losing to anybody right now does nothing but reinforce bad habits. I don't know about anyone else, but I've seen enough of selfish stupid play to last me a lifetime.

I WANT TO SEE US WIN.
 
Bullcrap. Total and utter bullcrap.

If you don't realize that we already have our franchise player and that we need to develop a TEAM mentality now, then you simply don't get it.

I'm tired of being nice and polite and letting people continue to act as though a draft pick is the most important thing we need right now. IT'S NOT. The upcoming draft is deep enough that we will get a quality player.

WE NEED OUR TEAM TO START PLAYING LIKE A TEAM.

WE NEED TO SEE DEFENSE.

WE NEED TO SEE SOMETHING RESEMBLING EFFORT ON BOTH ENDS OF THE COURT.

Losing to anybody right now does nothing but reinforce bad habits. I don't know about anyone else, but I've seen enough of selfish stupid play to last me a lifetime.

I WANT TO SEE US WIN.
And I'm tired of acting like this draft is of the quality of last year's draft. It's not. It's of 2003's quality. But some people like yourself don't understand that, apparently. You wanna win now, when it's pointless and there are no Play-Off hopes. Fine, have fun. I want the future years of success, instead.

Obviously Cuz is our franchise players, I'm not blind. But this draft offers plenty of second-star type players. It offers good point guards, ones that actually know how to spell defense (Marcus Smart).

Yes we need to start playing defense, play as a team, etc. etc. etc. But do you think it will happen with the players currently on our roster? Because it hasn't looked like that is the case of 30+ games into the season.
 

Kingster

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I think he may have come to the same conclusion that I have. If Williams isn't used as a 'focal point' where he gets consistent looks and a flow going, he's not nearly as valuable
Williams did one of those see ball, hesitate, don't go after it, the other team gets it, routines. I've seen him do this far, far too many times since he's been a King. The guy better get his head into the game or he's going to be here shorter than Vasquez was.
 
Williams did one of those see ball, hesitate, don't go after it, the other team gets it, routines. I've seen him do this far, far too many times since he's been a King. The guy better get his head into the game or he's going to be here shorter than Vasquez was.
But McRoberts was already on the ground and was in a better position to get the ball.
 

VF21

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SME
And I'm tired of acting like this draft is of the quality of last year's draft. It's not. It's of 2003's quality. But some people like yourself don't understand that, apparently. You wanna win now, when it's pointless and there are no Play-Off hopes. Fine, have fun. I want the future years of success, instead.

Obviously Cuz is our franchise players, I'm not blind. But this draft offers plenty of second-star type players. It offers good point guards, ones that actually know how to spell defense (Marcus Smart).

Yes we need to start playing defense, play as a team, etc. etc. etc. But do you think it will happen with the players currently on our roster? Because it hasn't looked like that is the case of 30+ games into the season.
Reading comprehension is fundamental. Apparently, it has passed you by. Feel free to continue to root against the guys wearing the uniform of the Sacramento Kings. I dare you to go to Sleep Train and do it.
 
Reading comprehension is fundamental. Apparently, it has passed you by. Feel free to continue to root against the guys wearing the uniform of the Sacramento Kings. I dare you to go to Sleep Train and do it.
I can read and comprehend very well, thank you. I adressed some of your points, but your comprehension may have failed you when reading my post.

Btw, Take cheap/personal shots all you want. Very classy.
 
Williams did one of those see ball, hesitate, don't go after it, the other team gets it, routines. I've seen him do this far, far too many times since he's been a King. The guy better get his head into the game or he's going to be here shorter than Vasquez was.
Yup. He lost his feel and flow and it seems, his mental approach,...once the change was made. It's not an excuse, but I think it really got him off mentally after he had something going for the first time in his career and then had the rug pulled out from underneath him, after Gay came in. It completely changed the feel for him personally
 

VF21

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SME
I can read and comprehend very well, thank you. I adressed some of your points, but your comprehension may have failed you when reading my post.

Btw, Take cheap/personal shots all you want. Very classy.
Cheap personal shot? Nope. I'm addressing the persona Bosnian Diehard.

Prevailing opinion is that the upcoming draft is very deep, an opinion I shared with my comment that:

The upcoming draft is deep enough that we will get a quality player.
I stand by my comments. And I repeat my challenge for you to go to Sleep Train and root for the Kings to lose.

It's clear at this point neither of us will change our opinions so I'll bow out, forever puzzled about how someone can use a game thread to root against the team they profess to care about.
 

Entity

Hall of Famer
Sounds good, but who?
Anybody. Kemba walker is not a good three point shooter overall until he plays us. He just shoots right over Isaiah. The question was asked how his height affects his game. There ya go. Without even mentioning his response time. Some have said his lateral quickness is slow but its not. I watched him close the last few games. He uses the lateral quickness on offense and is dribbling the ball so he is capable. It's his response time. It's awful.