Blazers leapfrog us...again #24 to #22

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The Portland TrailBlazers acquired the 22nd pick in Thursday's NBA draft from the Dallas Mavericks in exchange for the 24th and 56th picks in this year's draft, and worst of their second round picks in 2010, according to a league source.
The trade has been agreed to in principle by the two teams. It should be finalized by the league office later today.
 
That's a lot of work jsut to jump two spots the day before the draft. But I don't question Portland's front ofice. They are aggressive, know what they want to accomplish, and always seem to be having a lot of funrunning circles aroudn everyboyd else this time of year while the rest os us ninnies sit around trembling and clutching our picks to our chests.
 
I never understand trades like this. Why jump up two slots when you have no idea who will or won't be available.
 
Their roster is almost full already with rookie deals. Those later 2nd rounders were probably viewed as throw away picks.

Never know what could happen - a guy like Jeff Teague could drop all the way down there just to be taken right in front of us.
 
funkykingston said:
I never understand trades like this. Why jump up two slots when you have no idea who will or won't be available.
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Well, I doubt Portland has much use for the #56 pick... and any upgrade is an upgrade if you are just getting rid of a wasted pick or two.
 
They want either Claver or Casspri, imo.

Any they know the Kings want one of them too. They had to move ahead.
 
It might actually be a smart deal...Portland always looks for value picks, and as I've said before the #16-25 spots are hotspots, so they're just maximizing their chances of probably getting a player whose stock has dropped only recently. Take DX's latest mock, it seems that James Johnson, Terrence Williams, Ty Lawson and BJ Mullens have pushed some past lotto/potential lotto prospects down, like Brandon Jennings, DeJuan Blair, Austin Daye and Eric Maynor--so I can see greedy value-loving Pritchard potentially getting one of those players.
 
they want Casspri. I dont know if they will draft him, but they like him a lot
 
funkykingston said:
I never understand trades like this. Why jump up two slots when you have no idea who will or won't be available.
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um, you move 2 spots by giving away a pick you have no use for. are you telling me you value that 56th pick more than 2 spots up in the 1st round, one so convoluted that some talent is sure to drop off to the 20s?

Petrie is a good evaluator of talent, but a GM needs to be more. This just makes me more depressed at the lack of movement on Petrie's end.

*waits for Petrie revisionists to come in and tell me that Petrie could be doing a lot that isn't broadcasted.*

Watch a real talent drop from lottery to the 20s that we want and need, only to have Portland snatch them. I'm calling it now.
 
Why so much concern over the Blazers jumping two picks in the 20's? See this is just setting yourself up to be disappointed. You and I have no idea who they really covet. Could it be Casspi, Claver or somebody else? What happens if both those guys are gone before that? Then no matter who they pick, is it instant gold mine just because they picked them? The Blazers aren't mad genius or anything. They screw up draft picks all the time. Don't mistake activity for intelligent design. Like others said, the late first round is so up in the air.

Last year they bought #27 pick Sergio Rodriguez from the Suns. This year the rumors are they are looking to get rid of him and he wants out of there. Last year genius - this year not so good.
 
Kingster said:
They probably know who we want, and so they are going to get him. My guess is it's Casspri or Teague.
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Yeah, I am sure that is the reason - to spite us. :rolleyes: Maybe they just feel that they would rather move up 2 spots and not have the extra late pick and it really has nothing to do with us? Nah, couldn't be.
 
If the Blazers can do this deal, then we should be able to use our second round pick and #23 to move up into the teens...
 
Knowing full well the information leaks that exist between portland and sacramento thanks in part to Petrie, I think they want something we wanted.
 
rhythmless said:
um, you move 2 spots by giving away a pick you have no use for. are you telling me you value that 56th pick more than 2 spots up in the 1st round, one so convoluted that some talent is sure to drop off to the 20s?
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You are misunderstanding - I don't think it's bad value at all. My point is more along the lines of "why bother?" if you don't even know who's going to be there. That deal likely exists tomorrow too and they'd actually know that the player(s) they are targeting is there.
 
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Warhawk said:
Yeah, I am sure that is the reason - to spite us. :rolleyes: Maybe they just feel that they would rather move up 2 spots and not have the extra late pick and it really has nothing to do with us? Nah, couldn't be.
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Or maybe they have a kickin' after draft party planned and would rather not sit around in their war room for the whole second round when they could get a jumpstart on getting hammered. :D
 
Clearly, the key to Portland assembling one of the deepest pools of talent in the league has been their laser-like "screw Sacramento at any cost" focus. :p
 
funkykingston said:
You are misunderstanding - I don't think it's bad value at all. My point is more along the lines of "why bother?" if you don't even know who's going to be there. That deal likely exists tomorrow too and they'd actually know that the player(s) they are targeting is there.
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Excellent point. They could have made this deal during the draft once they knew who would be there at #22. Or maybe this is the Blazers way of paying Petrie the highest compliment... maybe they think that Petrie will get that last good player at #23. So owning any other pick is worthless?
 
funkykingston said:
You are misunderstanding - I don't think it's bad value at all. My point is more along the lines of "why bother?" if you don't even know who's going to be there. That deal likely exists tomorrow too and they'd actually know that the player(s) they are targeting is there.
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The other team would probably have a better idea then too.
Portland will not see value in those late picks no matter what, so might as well do it while you can.
 
Warhawk said:
Yeah, I am sure that is the reason - to spite us. :rolleyes: Maybe they just feel that they would rather move up 2 spots and not have the extra late pick and it really has nothing to do with us? Nah, couldn't be.
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Did I mention spite? You deduce apples from strawberries...
 
JB_kings said:
Excellent point. They could have made this deal during the draft once they knew who would be there at #22. Or maybe this is the Blazers way of paying Petrie the highest compliment... maybe they think that Petrie will get that last good player at #23. So owning any other pick is worthless?
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I don't know why they did it, but it was probably to maximize what talent is left in the 20's to make sure one of them fell their way. They probably have worked out that crew of talent a lot more and are focused on a few players they believe will be gone two picks later.. Who knows, maybe they just did it for fun... Wouldn't be the draft lately without the Blazers making some moves~
 
Nighthawk1 said:
I don't know why they did it, but it was probably to maximize what talent is left in the 20's to make sure one of them fell their way. They probably have worked out that crew of talent a lot more and are focused on a few players they believe will be gone two picks later.. Who knows, maybe they just did it for fun... Wouldn't be the draft lately without the Blazers making some moves~
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Don't know either. But I'm not too concerned either way. I'm sure Petrie isn't locked in on one guy there. Hey I'm all for Petrie moving up too and getting rid of some dead end second round picks. Last year's were pretty worthless.
 
NME said:
Clearly, the key to Portland assembling one of the deepest pools of talent in the league has been their laser-like "screw Sacramento at any cost" focus. :p
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You continue to give complete and concise in depth analysis. I live for your next pearl.:D
 
sidney said:
Their roster is almost full already with rookie deals. Those later 2nd rounders were probably viewed as throw away picks.

Never know what could happen - a guy like Jeff Teague could drop all the way down there just to be taken right in front of us.
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Actually, this move could help us get Teague. I had us taking Casspi at 23 for awhile now and unfortunately it seems Portland has moved ahead of us to select him. However, with Portland's roster, they have 0 use for Teague. If he slips, I was certain the Mavs would have taken him as a potantial upgrade over Barea. However, expecially with Bayless on the roster, the Blazers have no need for another combo guard. I suspect that if Teague drops, he could be donning a Kings uniform now.
 
I think you guys are overthinking this. Portland has, or had 4 second round draft picks. Its no secret that they were trying to find a way to unload some of them. Especially the one's in the second half of the second round.. So if someone comes up and offers you a chance to move up two spots in the draft for a pick you don't really want. Why not? Its not rocket science. I don't think its because they have an agenda. If the offer had been four spots, they would have take it too.
 
bajaden said:
I think you guys are overthinking this. Portland has, or had 4 second round draft picks. Its no secret that they were trying to find a way to unload some of them. Especially the one's in the second half of the second round.. So if someone comes up and offers you a chance to move up two spots in the draft for a pick you don't really want. Why not? Its not rocket science. I don't think its because they have an agenda. If the offer had been four spots, they would have take it too.
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thank you.
 
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