Best case scenario

[hammystyle]

The best case would be if Kahn takes Monroe at #4, but that´s not gonna happen

Actually I could see it. Good fit for the system and could play next to Love or Jefferson. A lot crazier things have happened.

 

[Chupacabra]

Whoa - another Varnado fan? Looking at his college production, the kid was a beast at Mississippi state. I wonder why he isn't rated higher?

Well yeah. If interior defense is your need then why wouldnt you want to draft the all time leading shot blocker in NCAA history? It makes sense to me.

 

[bajaden]

What is interesting is all the reports that Kahn has basically alienated both Favors and Cousins, and everyone representing them. He hasn't shown any interest in Cousins from day 1, and Cousins never worked out for them. Favors did work out for Minn, relunctantly, and then Kahn insulted Favors and called him "out of shape". Don't know how big of a deal that was, but reports suggest Favors and his agent were insulted by what Kahn said publicly about the workout.

So Kahn continues to burn his bridges, and now it seems WJ will be off the board. Kahn really could be the best thing fow our franchise. Seems to be drunk at the wheel, and has no clue what he is doing. There is also a report today that he is greatly overestimating Al Jeffersons value, and won't be able to move him.

As I said earlier, Kahn is an idiot. Last year Rubio didn't want to go to Minny, so Kahn says, I'll show him! I'll draft him anyway. And then what does he do? He goes and drafts another point guard right after him. Yeah, thats a sure fire way to lure him out of europe. If that doesn't do it, by god lets go and sign another point guard.

 

[Peter_Gibbons]

How about if the Nets take Monroe at three.. Thats another rumor thats been put out there.

You are kidding right??

 

[pshn80]

If your best case scenario is Favors then my estimation of the odds it will happen is less than one in ten.

My latest revision of chance of picking the main options is: Cousins, 40%; Johnson and Monroe, 25% each; all the rest, 10%. Cousins has gone down a little, Johnson has gone down a lot, Monroe has gone up significantly, and "the rest" is about the same.

Only two days left and Petrie will solve the problem.

 

[hammystyle]

If your best case scenario is Favors then my estimation of the odds it will happen is less than one in ten.

My latest revision of chance of picking the main options is: Cousins, 40%; Johnson and Monroe, 25% each; all the rest, 10%. Cousins has gone down a little, Johnson has gone down a lot, Monroe has gone up significantly, and "the rest" is about the same.

Only two days left and Petrie will solve the problem.

I think there's very little chance we take Johnson. He's either going ahead of us or we are taking Monroe.

55% Cousins, 35% Monroe, 4% Favors, 3% Johnson, 3% the field.

 

[bajaden]

Personally, I think he's a foul machine waiting to happen at the NBA level.

Why? You seem to think that Favors is a good defender. Varando averaged 31.7 minutes per game. He averaged 2.4 fouls per game while blocking 4.7 shots per game. Favors averaged 27.5 minutes per game. He averaged 2.6 fouls per game while blocking 2.1 shots per game. So in reality, Varnado played more minutes, and had fewer fouls while blocking twice as many shots as Favors. Yet you think Varnado will be a foul machine. I don't follow the logic.

Let me clear. I'm by no means equating Varnado to Favors. There's no doubt who will be the better overall player. But the one thing that Varnado excelled at was defense and shotblocking.

 

[bajaden]

You know more than I do. I just see his 5 blocks per game in 30 minutes in a decent conference and drool a bit. I think he's worth drafting at 33, should he be available.

I don't disagree with you. I think he would be a good choice at 33. I have other favorites as well, but wouldn't be critical of choosing him.

 

[Kings Fan Gerard]

I think Petrie takes Favors if he's available at number 5. Wow, suddenly the top picks in this draft ate anyone's guess.

 

[Bricklayer]

Well yeah. If interior defense is your need then why wouldnt you want to draft the all time leading shot blocker in NCAA history? It makes sense to me.

Well in the second round, why not?

But of course to answer the earlier question of why he's not better thought of its because he does not have an NBA big man body and may struggle to do anything else but block shots. Justin Williams 2.0 basically. But if you take him in the second round and hope for maybe a Bo Outlaw or Theo Ratliff, there are worse things.

There is a second factor though -- if we draft a big with our first pick, then we have: Dalembert, Landry, Thompson, drafted big, Brockman (presumably). That's 5. And Varnado would be 6 -- in other words spare baggage and likley practice squad. But since when you look at hos deep our roster is everywhere else there's not really a clear position of need at any of the 1-3 positions, maybe that's ok.

 

[Vlade4GM]

Why? You seem to think that Favors is a good defender. Varando averaged 31.7 minutes per game. He averaged 2.4 fouls per game while blocking 4.7 shots per game. Favors averaged 27.5 minutes per game. He averaged 2.6 fouls per game while blocking 2.1 shots per game. So in reality, Varnado played more minutes, and had fewer fouls while blocking twice as many shots as Favors. Yet you think Varnado will be a foul machine. I don't follow the logic.

Let me clear. I'm by no means equating Varnado to Favors. There's no doubt who will be the better overall player. But the one thing that Varnado excelled at was defense and shotblocking.

He's a skinny 6'9 swatter that doesn't body up well at all, I think that's a mixture for foul trouble at the NBA level. Favors plays grounded man-to-man defense most of the time, that's the huge difference between the two.

 

[Vlade4GM]

Well in the second round, why not?

But of course to answer the earlier question of why he's not better thought of its because he does not have an NBA big man body and may struggle to do anything else but block shots. Justin Williams 2.0 basically. But if you take him in the second round and hope for maybe a Bo Outlaw or Theo Ratliff, there are worse things.

There is a second factor though -- if we draft a big with our first pick, then we have: Dalembert, Landry, Thompson, drafted big, Brockman (presumably). That's 5. And Varnado would be 6 -- in other words spare baggage and likley practice squad. But since when you look at hos deep our roster is everywhere else there's not really a clear position of need at any of the 1-3 positions, maybe that's ok.

Outlaw was a good positional defender and wiry strong. That's not the case with Varnado.

 

[Telemachus]

Well in the second round, why not?

But of course to answer the earlier question of why he's not better thought of its because he does not have an NBA big man body and may struggle to do anything else but block shots. Justin Williams 2.0 basically. But if you take him in the second round and hope for maybe a Bo Outlaw or Theo Ratliff, there are worse things.

There is a second factor though -- if we draft a big with our first pick, then we have: Dalembert, Landry, Thompson, drafted big, Brockman (presumably). That's 5. And Varnado would be 6 -- in other words spare baggage and likley practice squad. But since when you look at hos deep our roster is everywhere else there's not really a clear position of need at any of the 1-3 positions, maybe that's ok.

I think this would a case when you send Varnado to the developmental league to get playing time and hope he becomes more NBA ready.

 

[cfechter]

I don't disagree with you. I think he would be a good choice at 33. I have other favorites as well, but wouldn't be critical of choosing him.

Yeah - I think he'd be just fine at #33. If Jordan Crawford drops, wouldn't mind him either. Second round picks don't usually produce in the NBA, but both of these guys were very productive at college (what I like about Crawford is that he shot over 40% from 3p in college - which is huge) and I would be cautiously optimistic they could be productive in the NB"A