Beno agrees to terms with Kings

[NME]

Just throwing this name out there, seeing if it sticks... Jerome James.

Sticks to what?

 

[hrdboild]

Just trying to make a point. I think enough people will get it without further explanation.

 

[kennadog]

Just trying to make a point. I think enough people will get it without further explanation.

The Kings didn't give him that money, so I'm missing how this is relevant to the Kings in this situation.

Remember, we're the team that gave him his belongings in a garbage bag and showed him the door.

 

[hrdboild]

Remember, we're the team that gave him his belongings in a garbage bag and showed him the door.

Allegedly.

 

[bajaden]

argument #1

playing time can be a great medicine. douby hasnt averaged any more than 10 minutes a game for the 2 seasons he's been here. nba.com may tell you that he gets around 12-13 a game but im sure that's because he gets around 20 minutes a game the last month of the season. thats when playoff teams have already been decided and we were still hitting speed bumps trying to hurry and finish the pathetic season.

argument #2

looking at beno's numbers HE wasnt that great to begin with either. he was also averaging around 10/11 minutes a game playing behind parker. he also had a very low assist count and a turnover count that was somewhat equal. once beno got more minutes his assists shot up a little and so did his turnovers, but his assists shot up a little more. playing time will benefit just about anyone. except for kwame brown.

argument #3

douby is 24 years old. beno is 26



argument #4

the sixers tried to do the same thing for iverson when he first came into the league. the kings dont need mark jackson or john stockton. they just need someone who can handle the ball, make good decisions and knock down jumpers. some of you were talking about how poor cisco's decision making was, but you all have grown to like him and what you THINK he can do for this team. most of you say he's getting better. well, why cant they be as positive for douby. he was a monster in college

I gave you my reasons why I like Beno and probably why the Kings like Beno. I didn't give you stats or excuses. I gave you my reasons that I gleened from watching Beno play and watching Douby play. I'm sorry. One looks like a pt guard to me and the other doesn't. Apparently Petrie and the Kings share my opinion. Or I share thiers. The two years in age doesn't matter a tinkers damm. So as I said before, one looks like he knows how to play the position and one doesn't.

Now, as I stated before. I've nothing against Douby, and I think he can get better. There have been a lot of 6'2" and 6'3" shooting guards in the league, and I think thats where he needs to put his attention. He'll improve a lot quicker if he's allowed to do what he was good at to begin with. And thats scoring the basketball. Can he bring the ball up the court sometimes? Sure! Can he defend the other teams Pt guard sometimes? Yes! I think could be a place for him on the team. Just not as a pt guard.

By the way. The Kings may not need John Stocton or Marc Jackson, but either one of those guys would certainly be welcome on my team anytime.
Also, I don't think you were, but I hope you wern't comparing Iverson to Douby.

 

[kennadog]

Allegedly.

I forgot the I don't believe James' version at all.

 

[Telemachus]

argument #1

playing time can be a great medicine. douby hasnt averaged any more than 10 minutes a game for the 2 seasons he's been here. nba.com may tell you that he gets around 12-13 a game but im sure that's because he gets around 20 minutes a game the last month of the season. thats when playoff teams have already been decided and we were still hitting speed bumps trying to hurry and finish the pathetic season.

There is no doubt that playing time can help a player's confidence, but you also have to look at what he does on the court (and not just his stats). Douby's best games have been when he was primarily a scorer and not a distributer on the court. He may well develop into a Tony Delk or Eddie House type player, but neither of them ever succeeded as a PG either.

As for his playing time: He averaged 11.9 mins a game last season (74 games); in the second half of the season (35 games), he averaged 11.2 mins. So his mins actually dropped as the season progressed.

argument #2

looking at beno's numbers HE wasnt that great to begin with either. he was also averaging around 10/11 minutes a game playing behind parker. he also had a very low assist count and a turnover count that was somewhat equal. once beno got more minutes his assists shot up a little and so did his turnovers, but his assists shot up a little more. playing time will benefit just about anyone. except for kwame brown.

It is easy to get caught up in stats, which only tell part of the story. Part of being a PG is bringing the ball up the floor and getting the team into the offense. That seems simple enough, but it is something Douby struggles with and Beno doesn't. Whenever Douby as been in at PG for the Kings, it almost always takes them 10-15 seconds just to get into their offense. That puts their offense in a limited position to score by limiting their options. That doesn't even bring into account court vision and passing ability.

argument #3

douby is 24 years old. beno is 26

Don't know how this changes anything when it comes to talent as a PG. There are some abilities that you are born with and some that can be learned. I think that Douby has great instincts as a scorer and shooter, and has also shown the ability to play defense. How far that will take him we don't know yet. But if history has taught us anything in regards to the NBA, it is that the PG position is something that can't be taught if you don't have the natural ability already. Douby has yet to show that ability in either the NBA or college.

argument #4

the sixers tried to do the same thing for iverson when he first came into the league. the kings dont need mark jackson or john stockton. they just need someone who can handle the ball, make good decisions and knock down jumpers. some of you were talking about how poor cisco's decision making was, but you all have grown to like him and what you THINK he can do for this team. most of you say he's getting better. well, why cant they be as positive for douby. he was a monster in college

I agree that the Sixers made the mistake of trying to make AI into a PG when he was a SG. In the end, the brought in Eric Snow to play the point so that AI could play is natural position.

 

[uolj]

You really think that's realistic? If our front office is mistaking a worthless end-of-the-bench scrub for a solid starter after watching him actually starting for their team for over half a season, then we have FAR more to worry about than the contract.

Realistic? Absolutely. Likely? No. I think our front office is pretty good, but they aren't perfect (please see the three veteran power forwards on the roster). It is quite possible that Udrih played over his head and they misjudged what he brought. It does happen in the NBA from time to time.

 

[Entity]

tyrant why are so against Garcia and love Douby. Garcia brings so much more to the table and talk about mistakes Douby makes 2 to garcia's 1.

 

[tyrant]

theus has to stop being an idiot and give the younger guys playing time. ive seen more post moves from spencer hawes than ive seen from brad miller in the 7+ years he's been in the league. spencer looks better then brad at age 19, so why isnt theus playing him? you can ask the same question for douby as well. you get better by playing against the best. most atheletes can raise their game when they're put to the test. on the other hand, there could be something that theus doesnt see from douby in practice. which is keeping his confidence low. i had the same problem in high school. i would never take practice serious enough, but i was the leading scorer during the season. in this league you have to get playing time to get better!! douby is simply in the same position beno was in for san antonio.

 

[Heuge]

theus has to stop being an idiot and give the younger guys playing time. ive seen more post moves from spencer hawes than ive seen from brad miller in the 7+ years he's been in the league. spencer looks better then brad at age 19, so why isnt theus playing him?

Brad was a borderline all star last year. Don't forget he was a double double most of the season, until he was injured. He also had a few 20 rb. games. Hawes was not there yet.

 

[tyrant]

Brad was a borderline all star last year. Don't forget he was a double double most of the season, until he was injured. He also had a few 20 rb. games. Hawes was not there yet.

lets not get back on the brad miller thing. lets not bring up his 3 rebounds and 9 points a game against the spurs in the 06 playoffs. . im sure most of you know how i feel about him

 

[Heuge]

lets not get back on the brad miller thing. lets not bring up his 3 rebounds and 9 points a game against the spurs in the 06 playoffs. . im sure most of you know how i feel about him

Ummm. You said Hawes was better then Brad. That has nothing at all to do with 2006.