Bee Media Insider - Maloofs Classless

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I did not know this. Read Media Insider in today's Bee by Joe Davidson. Apparently the Maloofs (all of them) at one time or another during the series were yelling at Adelman from their seats. Talk about a lack of class. No matter how passionate they are about the team, to show that level of disrespect to a man of Adleman's record and stature in the league is unforgiveable. Here's an excerpt: "But elsewhere, in other cities and on national TV feeds, cameras caught any number of Maloofs aiming their fury at the coach, with someone flying out of his or her seat, glowering at the bench and screaming, "Call a timeout." Also read Bretons article today. I was a huge Maloof fan until the end of this season but no more. A typical example of the boss thinking they are always right and not respecting their employees...at the very least, they could have reserved any show of disrespect for behind closed doors.
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Can someone explain why everyone is baggin on the Maloofs for actually trying to run a succesful business??? Myself and about 17,316 other fans in the arena where probably screaming the same things.

They told a coach WHO'S CONTRACT IS UP that they no longer wanted his services simple as that. None of us where there and no one knows how it went down.

Let's quit acting like this is some poor guy off the street who has no other options. I'm sure someone else will be suckered into hiring him because of his won-loss record and he will be fine.
 
Ryle said:
Can someone explain why everyone is baggin on the Maloofs for actually trying to run a succesful business??? Myself and about 17,316 other fans in the arena where probably screaming the same things.

They told a coach WHO'S CONTRACT IS UP that they no longer wanted his services simple as that. None of us where there and no one knows how it went down.

Let's quit acting like this is some poor guy off the street who has no other options. I'm sure someone else will be suckered into hiring him because of his won-loss record and he will be fine.

suckered?:rolleyes:
 
Adelman was paid nicely here during his stay. If his feelings were hurt, he needs simply to look at his bank statement and a smile will surely return to his face. Business is business. The Maloofs want a title, Adelman had 8 years to get one, it didn't happen. Let us all move on.
 
It's about treating people right

Ryle said:
Can someone explain why everyone is baggin on the Maloofs for actually trying to run a succesful business??? Myself and about 17,316 other fans in the arena where probably screaming the same things.

They told a coach WHO'S CONTRACT IS UP that they no longer wanted his services simple as that. None of us where there and no one knows how it went down.

Let's quit acting like this is some poor guy off the street who has no other options. I'm sure someone else will be suckered into hiring him because of his won-loss record and he will be fine.
Ryle, I think you are missing my point that Adelman, after his service and record, deserved more respect than he got from the Maloofs. Judging by the media and posts on this board, I venture that most others in town agree with me.
 
VladeRules said:
Judging by the media and posts on this board, I venture that most others in town agree with me.
Most others on this board and around town don't own mulitmillion dollar franchises and don't have to deal with situations such as these. Our opinions are just that, opinions. They make decisions, we live with them.
 
thesanityannex said:
Most others on this board and around town don't own mulitmillion dollar franchises and don't have to deal with situations such as these. Our opinions are just that, opinions. They make decisions, we live with them.
Their image is important to them AND their other interests. They also have to deal with bad PR at a time they need just the opposite. And the bad PR was at their doing.
 
Ryle said:
Can someone explain why everyone is baggin on the Maloofs for actually trying to run a succesful business??? Myself and about 17,316 other fans in the arena where probably screaming the same things...
Surely you're not so conceited as to believe that all seventeen thousand-plus ticketholders think exactly like you?
 
the maloofs are emotional owners. they're incredibly reactionary. i don't fault them for yelling at adelman when they were frustrated. i did the same thing. they're owners, but they're fans, too. being a fan doesn't make you classless. even letting adelman go in the manner that they did wasn't classless. it certainly was in very poor taste, but i think the whole "classy" bit is far too overplayed. its not about being classy. its about treating employees and former employees with respect, regardless of how you are perceived in the media, and especially when said coach deserves it. i wish the maloofs hadn't let adelman go, and i'm pissed to all hell that they did...but classless is definitely a bit far.

my issue with the maloofs is not their level of emotion. emotion brought ron artest here. the maloofs aren't GM's...but they're not stupid, either. i accuse them of being reactionary fans, and slightly irresponsible owners for their recent PR slipus, but that's about it.

my issue with the maloofs is that they aren't real great at connecting the dots. they can preach that the team needs a more defensive mindset. well...that's a given, but at least they want to help change the makeup of the team. so they bring in defensive specialist ron artest. bold move...but very smart move, and one that petrie doesn't make on his own. period. however, bringing in ron artest and containing/controlling/retaining ron artest are very different things. adelman is a coach that brought out the coachability in ron artest--a presumably uncoachable player. a hard-assed defensive-minded coach may not be the best thing for ron, and while i'm not one to believe in catering to specific players feelings, the volatilty of ron artest is such that the kings can continue to prosper, or the worst that many people predicted could happen, and ron artest could blow up in our faces, refuse to respond to an unwilling coach, demand to be traded, etc. i said from the beginning that i thought rick adelman would be able to contain ron...at least moreso than any other coach could...but he's gone now, and some other coach gets that daunting task.

i'm not so worried about bonzi wells. i don't believe he was ever as bad as people made him out to be. he's brutish as a player, but thats what we want. as a person, he's matured. he recognizes that he can't play the "young, dumb kid" card anymore. he's got a family to look out for, and a child to set an example for. he likely will never be a saint, but i don't think his behavior is gonna be much of an issue. i'm more worried about the attitude of, say, kenny thomas. he's just kinduva jerk who brings his best game when he feels so inclined.

point is, i know i, personally, overreacted to the release of adelman. i still believe i'm right, but i know why the maloofs did it. i just don't think they see the bigger picture. they have no idea where they want to go from here. they've never been through the hiring process when it comes to head coaches, and simply wanting the experience doesn't justify the release of an excellent coach, especially when candidates for his succession who are also equals are hard to come by. its a HUGE risk, and an uncalculated one. if they pull it off, then they look like geniuses and kings fans are happy again. if it fails, and the kings miss the playoffs, lets say, they might just be run out of town as opposed to being begged to stay. hyperbole or not, that seems like a likely scenario. i have a hard time envisioning a future in which the kings get an arena deal done if the team they field and the coach they choose are not winners.
 
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Ryle said:
Let's quit acting like this is some poor guy off the street who has no other options. I'm sure someone else will be suckered into hiring him because of his won-loss record and he will be fine.

Oh no, quite to the contrary this was one of the winningest coaches of all time who helped MAKE the Maloofs, as anything more then flim flam men from Vegas. As the owners of a last place dungheap nobody in the country would know who they were or give a dman about them. There would be no espn interviews, no tnt playoff games. They owe their little corner of fame and notoriety entirely to the very people who they don't think even rate a phone call.
 
Bricklayer said:
Oh no, quite to the contrary this was one of the winningest coaches of all time who helped MAKE the Maloofs, as anything more then flim flam men from Vegas. As the owners of a last place dungheap nobody in the country would know who they were or give a dman about them. There would be no espn interviews, no tnt playoff games. They owe their little corner of fame and notoriety entirely to the very people who they don't think even rate a phone call.

The maloofs were business owners and multimillionaires before the Kings. The whole family was. They own Coors, they were involved and still are in banking, not sure when the palms came along. Maybe WE wouldn't know them, but that family was quite settled before hand.

All I have to say to everyone who is personally hurt by this and feels Adelman was some how wronged, all I have to say is WHAAAAAAA...they didn't announce it WHAAAAAA...they didn't call him personally afterwards WHAAAAAA.

You don't have to agree with it. They are the business owners. They treat their employess great. Ask anyone who works at Arco Arena or The Palms, or any other Maloofs Venture. Adelman's Supervisor handed down the info *Geoff Petrie* per usual of any job.

Get a grip folks, move on and look to the future.
 
Doc,

I actually agree with some of your points, I am also one that is not upset about what or how this has happened, but I think this forum is a place were people can express if they are upset. Especially since many spend a lot of money paying for our team. Personally I don't fully understand the outrage expressed but I don't think its right to say they are crying over it or to get over it. Time heals all wounds and this will eventually pass.

Not knockn ya Doc but just saying we need to have some compasion for people that are upset about it.
 
DocHolliday said:
All I have to say to everyone who is personally hurt by this and feels Adelman was some how wronged, all I have to say is WHAAAAAAA...they didn't announce it WHAAAAAA...they didn't call him personally afterwards WHAAAAAA.

Oddly it is pro-Maloof faction on here doing most of the WHAAAAAing at this point, but I have been holding off on pointing out the obvious hypocrisy.
 
DocHolliday said:
The maloofs were business owners and multimillionaires before the Kings. The whole family was. They own Coors, they were involved and still are in banking, not sure when the palms came along. Maybe WE wouldn't know them, but that family was quite settled before hand.

All I have to say to everyone who is personally hurt by this and feels Adelman was some how wronged, all I have to say is WHAAAAAAA...they didn't announce it WHAAAAAA...they didn't call him personally afterwards WHAAAAAA.

You don't have to agree with it. They are the business owners. They treat their employess great. Ask anyone who works at Arco Arena or The Palms, or any other Maloofs Venture. Adelman's Supervisor handed down the info *Geoff Petrie* per usual of any job.

Get a grip folks, move on and look to the future.
Hey, its nice to know that a few people feel the same way as me.;) And all this crying over a coach who makes about $2,000,000 a year...Rick will be fine, his next employer will probably pay him more than the Maloofs, he'll be fine. All I want, as a fan since day one, is a Championship dammit, and the Maloofs are making the moves that they feel will bring that to OUR city.(oh, btw, they dont own Coors, they own the west coast distribution and marketing rights, and for quite some time now)
 
Bricklayer said:
Oddly it is pro-Maloof faction on here doing most of the WHAAAAAing at this point, but I have been holding off on pointing out the obvious hypocrisy.
Besides a certain few posters, I haven't read much at all from the Pro-Maloof faction.
 
thesanityannex said:
Besides a certain few posters, I haven't read much at all from the Pro-Maloof faction.

The aforementioned WHAAAAing has absoultely nothing to do with how many people are speaking, only what they're saying.
 
All I have to say to everyone who is personally hurt by this and feels Adelman was some how wronged, all I have to say is WHAAAAAAA...they didn't announce it WHAAAAAA...they didn't call him personally afterwards WHAAAAAA.

quote=Circa_1985_Fan]Hey, its nice to know that a few people feel the same way as me.;) And all this crying over a coach who makes about $2,000,000 a year...Rick will be fine, his next employer will probably pay him more than the Maloofs, he'll be fine. All I want, as a fan since day one, is a Championship dammit, and the Maloofs are making the moves that they feel will bring that to OUR city.(oh, btw, they dont own Coors, they own the west coast distribution and marketing rights, and for quite some time now)[/quote]

New post: These posts point out the mentality that disgusts me...no compassion for someone losing their job (regardless of how much they make...that's beside the point). Do you think that someone who puts their all into a job and it's their livelihood is going to feel any less bad about being disrespected (I think this term is overused but does apply here) in the manner in which they're let go? That's the only point I am trying to make but some who deem themselves hardasses I guess, don't get it. Look at how Peja learned that he was traded...by seeing it on TV!
 
VladeRules said:
New post: These posts point out the mentality that disgusts me...no compassion for someone losing their job (regardless of how much they make...that's beside the point).
For some of us, seeing a guy fired from a 2,000,000 dollar a year dream job is not worth being compassionate over. Sorry if that disgusts you. It is what it is. Adelman will not be roaming the parks of Chico looking for spare change. He will probably be making more money somewhere else, and with that thought, it is easy for me to not make a stink about it.
 
thesanityannex said:
For some of us, seeing a guy fired from a 2,000,000 dollar a year dream job is not worth being compassionate over. Sorry if that disgusts you. It is what it is. Adelman will not be roaming the parks of Chico looking for spare change. He will probably be making more money somewhere else, and with that thought, it is easy for me to not make a stink about it.

Right. Adelman wasn't treated like a garbage. He wasn't fired IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SEASON. He wasn't just resigned by the people who employed him meaning contract over. I don't see why they're classless. For the Maloofs, and the way I see it, it's just business. There's nothing wrong with it really. It is what it is as sanity said.
 
And if this piece is true, why did he kept his mouth shut when the Maloofs are deciding whether to resign RA or not?
 
West_Gunslinger16 said:
And if this piece is true, why did he kept his mouth shut when the Maloofs are deciding whether to resign RA or not?

What are you talking about?

How could Marty or anyone else talk about something that hadn't happened yet?
 
I don't give a rip whether somebody earns millions of dollars a year or is homeless, begging for spare change. I think everyone deserves to be treated with some degree of respect, dignity and fairness.

People in here are arguing that is just the way the corporate world/ business operates. I agree that the corporate/business world does largely operate on me-first, selfish, back-stabbing and uncaring fashion. So what?

I don't agree that I have to accept that behavior as right or justifiable. I always try to treat people with the decency, respect and honesty that I would like to receive. I would not have handled the situation the way the Maloofs did.
 
If this is true then what happened to McMillan? Maybe his head was almost hacked off by the screaming owners. Man I gotta imagine that. :D

PTrailBlazers Owner/s: YOU SUCK!
McMillan: Meh.
Opposition Coach: W00T!

Same for the Raptors coach. Good thing they have the GM of Suns. That would ultimately help them.
 
If believe that there's obviously more to this story than meets the eye or ear for that matter. This seems to have been brewing for awhile now. If the Maloofs had to release Adelman a few years ago, I think it would have been done under more cordial circumstances. It think it's better that they parted ways now, rather than later. I still believe Adelman shouldn't have been realeased at all, as I was looing forward to him working with this new group, but it was already too late for that and the bigwigs had already made up their mind.
 
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kennadog said:
I don't give a rip whether somebody earns millions of dollars a year or is homeless, begging for spare change. I think everyone deserves to be treated with some degree of respect, dignity and fairness.

People in here are arguing that is just the way the corporate world/ business operates. I agree that the corporate/business world does largely operate on me-first, selfish, back-stabbing and uncaring fashion. So what?

I don't agree that I have to accept that behavior as right or justifiable. I always try to treat people with the decency, respect and honesty that I would like to receive. I would not have handled the situation the way the Maloofs did.
I totally agree, the whole situation was handled badly.
 
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