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Is Artest calling it quits?
He tells teammates of his retirement plan
By Sam Amick - Bee Staff Writer
Published 12:00 am PDT Monday, March 26, 2007


Corliss Williamson looked at his cell phone last week and was surprised by what he saw.

It was a text message from Ron Artest, who was informing Williamson and nearly the entire Kings' roster that he was planning to retire after this season.

The message was short and to the point, with Artest making it clear that this matter wouldn't affect his performance for the rest of the season and, he wrote, the playoff push.

"That was it," Williamson said. "I was shocked. What is this? It's his personal decision he's made, and we'll see what happens."

Artest's teammates weren't the only ones he told of the news. Friday, he told the editors of www.hiphopgame.com, a Web site for which Artest writes a personal diary.

Artest was unavailable for comment before the Kings defeated the Phoenix Suns 107-100 Sunday at Arco Arena, and he did not speak after the game, either.

Many of his teammates remain unwilling to believe that Artest actually would leave the NBA at age 27, with a contract that is scheduled to pay him $7.8 million next season and a player option for $8.45 million in the 2008-09 season. But according to a source close to Artest and away from his basketball life, he is very serious about retirement.

According to the source, who didn't want to go on record for fear of reprisal, Artest plans to play overseas for a year or two, with hopes that he can put the seemingly nonstop turmoil behind him in a more discreet environment while leaving open the possibility of a return to the NBA. The list of off-the-court transgressions for Artest has only grown this season, from his dog being seized by Placer County in late January to his March 5 arrest on domestic violence charges.

Kings basketball president Geoff Petrie said during Sunday's game that he considered this "a matter of conjecture" on Artest's part, but the matter was serious enough that Petrie and Artest met to discuss it after the game.

The day was a microcosm of the Kings' season, with the upset over Phoenix somewhat overshadowed by the buzz about Artest -- and Petrie, clearly, wishing that wasn't the case.

"He's under a lot of scrutiny and at a point, really, in his own career where he needs to be a better keeper of his own soul in some ways," Petrie said. "We'll assess in the context of the whole season where we go (with Artest from here). But again, it's sort of Ron being Ron."

When a player retires before his contract expires, the league's collective bargaining agreement dictates that it is the team's decision whether to pay the player. If the team does, the salary counts against the salary cap. But if the team doesn't, the salary is cleared from the salary cap and the player is free to go.

Artest will not be with the team today, as he will be in New York to meet with the league's security team regarding his four misdemeanor charges of domestic violence. Though only Artest knows how he arrived at this professional crossroads of sorts, he clearly has been pondering the direction of his reputation recently.

During the Kings' recent road trip, he said in Atlanta that he fashioned himself among a class of American celebrities who overcame unending negative publicity only to reshape their image years later. He talked about Flavor Flav, an integral member of the controversial rap group Public Enemy, who now stars on a mainstream reality show for VH-1. He also referenced Ice Cube, who helped found the equally controversial rap group N.W.A. and went on to become a successful actor and film director.

Reflective before tipoff in Atlanta, the always competitive Artest was incensed afterward. In what was simply his latest bout with a season full of frustration, sources close to the team, who didn't want to go on record for fear of reprisal, confirmed that Artest went into a lengthy tirade after the Kings were blown out by the Hawks 99-76. His yelling was aimed mostly at Kings coach Eric Musselman, who played the starters in limited minutes from the late third quarter on when his team trailed by as many as 32 points.

While Musselman's decision was hardly surprising given the deficit, Artest repeatedly has said this season that he views pulling the starters or relying on the end-of-bench reserves as a sign of submission. It was, like so many other Artest-related instances, a situation that was not received well by a team that continues to play through unending drama.

"You've got to change something -- change for the betterment of himself and for the betterment of the team he's playing for," Petrie said of Artest.

"There's no team that needs continuous distractions, no matter how substantive they may actually be."

About the writer: The Bee's Sam Amick can be reached at samick@sacbee.com.
 
"You've got to change something -- change for the betterment of himself and for the betterment of the team he's playing for," Petrie said of Artest.

"There's no team that needs continuous distractions, no matter how substantive they may actually be."

And that's about as clear a statement as you'll ever see from Geoff Petrie...
 
The last 13 games of the season is the last days of Ron in a Kings uniform probably he really didn't do anything special for this franchise like Peja or Webber did but hes still helped us make the playoffs last year.

He will comeback after next season and probably join the Knicks from any kind of demands he does.
 
"You've got to change something -- change for the betterment of himself and for the betterment of the team he's playing for," Petrie said of Artest.

"There's no team that needs continuous distractions, no matter how substantive they may actually be."

My goodness, Mr. Petrie. Look in the mirror and do something.
 
I hate to see Ron go, but he is a huge distraction to the team. I'd put him in there with TO and Randy Moss (big time wide receiver football athletes with attitudes as big or bigger then what they bring to the game). It is truely baffling that some players cannot keep it together. Wow, Ron apparently doesn't care about the $!!!!! He lost so much for the big brawl a few years ago, then was suspended by Indy for wanting the trade. Could have been suspended for the recent domestic abuse...now says he will probably retire from the NBA.

Ron is a big time competitior, I don't see him being away from basketball long. He probably wants a little break from the NBA and will play in Europe like was mentioned, then finish his career in his home city of New York with the Knicks. While Artest does bring a lot of drama, way more then anyone I can think of, but maybe a few players.....he is a talented player at a low cost and that is even more of a talent bleed leaving the Kings. You cannot get the type of player Ron is at his current salary. Wow, I sure wish we would have gotten Cory Maggette now!!!! :(
 
My goodness, Mr. Petrie. Look in the mirror and do something.
I can't ever remember GP expressing disapproval of a player in all the time he's been here. And his quotes are pretty darn blunt. If he can move Ron this summer, I'm sure he will. Provided Ron doesn't just up and "retire".:rolleyes:

Kevin gets Player of the Week, and the focus is on Ron's arrest and excused absence from the team. Bibby has a record-setting night against a good team and the focus is on Ron saying he's going to retire.

I gave Ron a "clean state" in Sacramento. Once these multiple problems and distractions started cropping up, forget it, all bets are off. If you're given a clean slate, you have to change your behavior.

At this point its clear to me he's the same ol' narcissistic Artest. And if I was a GM, I wouldn't touch him at this point. Who wants to cater to a 27-year old baby?
 
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I can't ever remember GP expressing disapproval of a player in all the time he's been here. And his quotes are pretty darn blunt. If he can move Ron this summer, I'm sure he will. Provided Ron doesn't just up and "retire".:rolleyes:

Kevin gets Player of the Week, and the focus is on Ron's arrest and excused absence from the team. Bibby has a record-setting night against a good team and the focus is on Ron saying he's going to retire.

I gave Ron a "clean state" in Sacramento. Once these multiple problems and distractions started cropping, forget it, all bets are off. If you're given a clean slate, you have to change your behavior.

At this point its clear to me he's the same ol' narcissistic Artest. And if I was a GM, I wouldn't touch him at this point. Who wants to cater to a 27-year old baby?

I have to agree. I'm tired of watching the world's longest Shakespearean tragedy. It's time for the final act...and the curtain.
 
My goodness, Mr. Petrie. Look in the mirror and do something.

Geoff has been specializing in doing nothing (oh sorry, "evaluating") for years now, but in the case of Ron I fear that he has had his hands tied by greater powers.
 
Well I would have liked a whole lot better if Ron would have been quiet about his possible retirement just enough for us to trade him for hopefully something good. Having his $7-8M off the books doesn't help as much as he brings when he has his head in the game. From what I read it's are decision on whether to pay him all his $ even if he doesn't play next year or come up with some arrangement. He is walking away from 1 more year after this, at least that's my understanding of it. Why cannot he just finish his contract and then do whatever he wants after that? Or at least let us trade him away 1st for Cory Maggette or some other deal.
 
I guess he's not missing his wife too much, huh?

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Wow. That's really bizarre. They've totally REPLACED the story at the beginning of this thread with this one:

Artest now says he won't quit
He says being away from his family prompted retirement talk
By Sam Amick - Bee Staff Writer
Last Updated 4:06 pm PDT Monday, March 26, 2007


After telling his teammates and people close to him in recent days that he was headed toward early NBA retirement, Ron Artest told ESPN radio on Monday that he was not going to retire.

The Kings small forward, who has been away from his family since his March 5 arrest on suspicion of domestic violence, told Stephen A. Smith that being away from his family is what led him to consider retirement. But, Artest said, that is no longer in the plans.

"I don't plan to retire," Artest said. "When you don't have your kids around you can get a little bit vulnerable, a little weak."

In a subsequent e-mail to the Bee, Artest reiterated that his separation from his wife, Kimsha, and their three children prompted his statements about his future.

"All of these statements were made because I miss my family, and I'm having a hard time, when I'm not playing basketball, being without them," Artest wrote.

A source close to Artest told The Bee on Sunday that Artest is serious about retirement, with some family members trying to talk him out of the idea. His plan was to play overseas for a year or two to get away from the American spotlight, then possibly return to the NBA.

Artest has one year remaining on his contract that would pay him $7.8 million and a player option for the 2008-09 season that would pay him $8.45 million.
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I don't think I've ever seen them do that before. I think someone must have goofed when they posted the new story. It's almost revisionist history to completely change the story into something else once it's posted/printed.

But this is about Artest so I guess we shouldn't be surprised at anything that happens...
 

In a subsequent e-mail to the Bee, Artest reiterated that his separation from his wife, Kimsha, and their three children prompted his statements about his future.

"All of these statements were made because I miss my family, and I'm having a hard time, when I'm not playing basketball, being without them," Artest wrote.

Gee Ron...I'm so glad to see you're finding ways to deal with being without your family.

:rolleyes:
 
There is one interesting point that has not been raised yet.

Let's take it from the Maloof's angle, the one's who may have originally engineered Artest's coming here in the first place. 1. They're businessmen 2. They're in entertainment and show business, (with possible plans of going more in the direction of movies/media).

It's been said (by Donald Trump) that there's no such thing as bad press. Any exposure is good exposure. Probably he was talking from a financial standpoint. I'll just throw out there that the Maloofs knew exactly what they were getting into with Artest. And to them, although they publicly said (as a PC statement) "This is a bit of a risk", knowing full well that there was no risk in terms of the Kings not increasing their "visibility" somehow. All of this, crude as it may seem, has attracted eyeballs to the Kings. Have you noticed how much they have been covered by ESPN lately? (not only directly Ron related) Why? Because, ESPN being a media company trying to attract eyeballs, the Kings have been at least somewhat of a story. Drama. Yeah we may think it's about sports, but, sports are just another form of drama anyway. Just depends on your tastes.

So was Artest a "risk"? Not in the least if you are in the business of trying to make money by attracting eyeballs and trying to get people to have a feeling and reaction to something. In fact, he was the surest bet of all. I believe, that the Maloofs saw this all along, and it remains to be seen if this was a move to help catapult a move to Vegas, (and if so, it is working brilliantly on several levels) and propel the franchise to a higher level of visibility. As Paul Shirlely and his agent say, the NBA is a Circus. And I think he means it literally. And a circus is all about the show and the money.

I do agree, though, that even if the above strategy was being employed, that there does come a time when you need to "drop the hot potato" in a sense, as you've gotten as much mileage out of it as you can before too many other problems start to creep in. Again, this is as speculating purely from the Maloof's standpoint, the ones who are ultimately calling the shots.

Ultimately, I think from a business standpoint, all of this is continuing in a successful direction for the Maloofs, and I believe the know it, and are not worried.
 
I was on the flight with him to Phoenix last Thursday when he didn't make it to the game. We were stuck in Ontario from 2:30 until 10 pm at night until we finally got a flight out on another airline. Ron was cool and very friendly to everybody at first, but became very standoffish and irritated as time went on. I heard some passangers talking smack about him giving them the cold shoulder, but damn, we were stuck in the plane on the runway in Ontario for 3 hours before they let us off. We were all pissed off just like Ron was. I always try to look at the positives of Ron and not the negatives, but things just keep piling up with this guy. Then I see this picture of him with some skank on his lap at a night club, and I just don't know what to say......

sorry for rambling..
 
There is one interesting point that has not been raised yet.

Let's take it from the Maloof's angle, the one's who may have originally engineered Artest's coming here in the first place. 1. They're businessmen 2. They're in entertainment and show business, (with possible plans of going more in the direction of movies/media).

It's been said (by Donald Trump) that there's no such thing as bad press. Any exposure is good exposure. Probably he was talking from a financial standpoint. I'll just throw out there that the Maloofs knew exactly what they were getting into with Artest. And to them, although they publicly said (as a PC statement) "This is a bit of a risk", knowing full well that there was no risk in terms of the Kings not increasing their "visibility" somehow. All of this, crude as it may seem, has attracted eyeballs to the Kings. Have you noticed how much they have been covered by ESPN lately? (not only directly Ron related) Why? Because, ESPN being a media company trying to attract eyeballs, the Kings have been at least somewhat of a story. Drama. Yeah we may think it's about sports, but, sports are just another form of drama anyway. Just depends on your tastes.

So was Artest a "risk"? Not in the least if you are in the business of trying to make money by attracting eyeballs and trying to get people to have a feeling and reaction to something. In fact, he was the surest bet of all. I believe, that the Maloofs saw this all along, and it remains to be seen if this was a move to help catapult a move to Vegas, (and if so, it is working brilliantly on several levels) and propel the franchise to a higher level of visibility. As Paul Shirlely and his agent say, the NBA is a Circus. And I think he means it literally. And a circus is all about the show and the money.

I do agree, though, that even if the above strategy was being employed, that there does come a time when you need to "drop the hot potato" in a sense, as you've gotten as much mileage out of it as you can before too many other problems start to creep in. Again, this is as speculating purely from the Maloof's standpoint, the ones who are ultimately calling the shots.

Ultimately, I think from a business standpoint, all of this is continuing in a successful direction for the Maloofs, and I believe the know it, and are not worried.

I don't buy it. I don't think Joe and Gavin are that complex. I think they fully expected Ron to come here and be a totally changed individual. I'm sure when they talked with him he was earnest and sincere. We've seen it; we know how compelling he can be.

The Maloofs are worried. You can bank on it.
 
I don't buy it. I don't think Joe and Gavin are that complex. I think they fully expected Ron to come here and be a totally changed individual. I'm sure when they talked with him he was earnest and sincere. We've seen it; we know how compelling he can be.

The Maloofs are worried. You can bank on it.

Not if they're warming up a deal with Stern to get a team to/in Vegas. "Oh and look, Mr. Stern, it's just impossible to work with Sacramento to get an arena deal anyway..."

Worried? They've already doubled the value of the franchise. And this might have even only been a toy for them and a way for the family to increase visiblity to foster other business ventures.

Yes, they may have been genuinely hoping that things would've worked out in the W/L column, but they of course had to have had a situation like this in their minds, and it's impact on the VALUE of the franchise. You see, we tend to think in W's and L's, while they have always been thinking in $$ (and W's and L's), and of course they are related, but not directly.
 
Not if they're warming up a deal with Stern to get a team to/in Vegas. "Oh and look, Mr. Stern, it's just impossible to work with Sacramento to get an arena deal anyway..."

Worried? They've already doubled the value of the franchise. And this might have even only been a toy for them and a way for the family to increase visiblity to foster other business ventures.

Yes, they may have been genuinely hoping that things would've worked out in the W/L column, but they of course had to have had a situation like this in their minds, and it's impact on the VALUE of the franchise. You see, we tend to think in W's and L's, while they have always been thinking in $$ (and W's and L's), and of course they are related, but not directly.

You're giving Joe and Gavin way too much credit. They don't think that much. Heck, a lot of us don't think that much. It's just another conspiracy theory.
 
Hmmm... I'm not sure that logic (any publicity is good publicity) works in the NBA.

If it did, the most valuable franchise in history would have been the Jailblazers.
 
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You're giving Joe and Gavin way too much credit. They don't think that much. Heck, a lot of us don't think that much. It's just another conspiracy theory.

Maybe they personally don't think that much, but when you're worth that much money, you can afford to hire people who do. As it's said, if as a business owner you are the smartest person in your company, you're in trouble. Also, there's George.

It's not a conspiracy theory, its just them coming from a different perspective. They're not just dumb homer fans, as they definitely want us to think.
 
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