Bee: Draft options many for the Kings

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http://www.sacbee.com/content/sports/story/14271606p-15082169c.html

Mirror, mirror -- what's the call?
Draft options are many for the Kings, who seek the fairest fit.
By Sam Amick -- Bee Staff Writer
Published 12:01 am PDT Sunday, June 25, 2006

There will be no swimsuits, no scripted dialogues about peace on earth or a panel of judges waiting to crown the next Miss America.
But make no mistake, Kings president of basketball operations Geoff Petrie said, Wednesday's NBA draft is nothing short of a beauty contest.

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder," Petrie said. "When you get to that day, you have to decide who's beautiful."

As always, Petrie isn't saying who might be named Mr. Sacramento. But in his preparation, he said the list of so-called contestants was even longer this year than last, when more than 40 players came for workouts. The Kings' No. 19 pick is their highest since selecting Hedo Turkoglu at No. 16 in 2000. They have no second-round pick.

Petrie isn't the only NBA executive who has gone to great lengths in his assessments. If there is a unique quality about this draft, it is the lack of a definitive hierarchy. Even the top-picking teams -- Toronto, Chicago, Charlotte, and Portland -- seem unsure who should be taken first.

"There's no obvious dominant-type player," Petrie said.

Petrie isn't quite sure yet how that will affect who's available later.
"You still have 18 teams picking in front of you," he said. "By Wednesday, you may have some decent sense of who's going where and who's left. There's always surprises in there."

Whatever the pick, this year's selection likely will be telling in shaping the Kings' future roster. If they select a point guard, it would be their fourth. Jason Hart, who exercised his $1.68 million player option for 2006-07, was unable to secure his spot as a reliable backup for Mike Bibby last season, when the duty often fell to rookie swingman Francisco García. Fellow rookie Ronnie Price consistently received high praise from the former coaching staff for his practice prowess and potential but remains unproven in games.

The two most likely point guards to come the Kings' way are Spain's Sergio Rodríguez and UCLA's Jordan Farmar. Petrie also has worked out Rutgers high-scoring point guard Quincy Douby, who likely will play shooting guard in the NBA and is expected to be available late in the first round.

Should Petrie opt for a power forward, it would also be the fourth. While the rotation of Kenny Thomas and Shareef Abdur-Rahim often was effective in the second half of last season, neither is content coming off the bench, and both are signed through 2010. What's more, Corliss Williamson is entering the final year of his contract and will earn $6.5 million, a hefty price for a player who was used in 37 games and averaged 9.8 minutes.

Among forwards who had Kings workouts was Cal's Leon Powe, whose agent, Aaron Goodwin, called him "the most versatile and strongest man in the draft."

"We'll try and do our best to get a player who can eventually contribute, sooner rather than later," Petrie said. "A lot of it depends on what happens, where we go with our roster going forward."

While the Kings' workouts seemed heavy on point guards, Petrie said that's not necessarily telling.

"There's nothing that's safe to say," he said. "We've had in a lot of players."

Or, considering Petrie has denied rumors about a trade involving Kings center Brad Miller and free-agent-to-be shooting guard Bonzi Wells for Minnesota's Kevin Garnett, he might look to add post depth to compensate for Miller's defensive weaknesses.

Connecticut's Hilton Armstrong -- a 6-foot-11, 240-pound player who could be long gone by No. 19 -- put his defensive and shot-blocking skills on display for Petrie at the Kings' practice facility in mid-May.
Senegalese 7-footer Mouhamed Saer Sene could be available. The 20-year-old is seen as a project, but he could develop quickly with his 7-8 wingspan, agility and ability to run the floor.

On paper, both appear more versatile than 10-year veteran Vitaly Potapenko, the little-used backup to Miller who has one year remaining on his deal for $3.3 million.

Out of necessity, Petrie has been handling the draft even more than in past years. The workouts began when Rick Adelman still was the coach and continued through the coaching search and eventual hiring of Eric Musselman.

And although Musselman has been on hand for workouts since coming to town, he said his input has been minimal. Nonetheless, he has watched tape and called college coaches regarding potential draft picks.

"I learned to put a high premium on watching guys on film playing in a real game and the value of talking to college coaches," Musselman said. "That comes from the minor leagues, where you don't go out and scout because you don't have the budget. … Surprisingly, I found that those guys are pretty doggone good.

"(But) the draft stuff is really Geoff. … I think we'll get a player that, in time, can help us, because the draft is fairly deep. I think we're talking about all positions, and the players who might be available."
In other words, the best-looking.

What's in a number?
Barring a trade, the Kings will pick 19th in Wednesday's NBA draft. Players drafted at No. 19 since 1990:
Year Player School Team Comment
'05 Hakim Warrick Syracuse Memphis Played 68 games in rookie season.
'04 Dorell Wright South Kent Prep (H.S.) Miami Has played 23 games in two seasons.
'03 Aleksandar Pavlovic (Serbia-Montenegro) Utah Spot starter for Cavs after trade.
'02 Ryan Humphrey Notre Dame Orlando Started once in 85 NBA games.
'01 Zach Randolph Michigan State Portland 14.4 ppg average in five seasons.
'00 Jamaal Magloire Kentucky Charlotte Started every '05-06 Bucks game.
'99 Quincy Lewis Minnesota Utah Out of NBA since December 2003.
'98 Pat Garrity Notre Dame Milwaukee 8.0 ppg average in eight seasons.
'97 Scot Pollard Kansas Detroit Rebound average 5.0; scoring 4.7.
'96 Walter McCarty Kentucky New York Has 5.2 ppg average in 10 seasons.
'95 Randolph Childress Georgia Tech Detroit Was out of NBA after two seasons.
'94 Tony Dumas Missouri-KC Dallas 7.3 ppg average in four seasons.
'93 Acie Earl Iowa Boston 5.1 ppg in five seasons.
'92 Don MacLean UCLA Detroit 11.1 ppg average in nine seasons.
'91 LaBradford Smith Louisville Washington 6.7 ppg average in three seasons.
'90 Dee Brown Jacksonville Boston 11.1 ppg in 13 seasons.
- Compiled by Vic Contreras
About the writer: The Bee's Sam Amick can be reached at (916) 326-5582 or samick@sacbee.com.
 
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That list is pretty impressive (except for the most recent years)

These are the latest KINGS picks since 1998... Petrie has a great draft history. I am sure he will pick the best available guy.

1998: #7 Jason Williams - Flashy PG who just helped the Heat win their first Championship. Has been and will be in the league a long time. Career averages of 11.7ppg 6.6apg 2.4rpg 1.3spg .

1999: NO PICK

2000: #16 Hedo Turkoglu - Has turned into an excellent shooter, and someone every team would like to have. Has improved defensively as well. Last year averaged 15ppg 4rpg 3apg .

2001: #25 Gerald Wallace - A leaper beyond belief. He has become the player in Charlotte we have all known he can become. He has shown signs of having it all in some games where he has put up numbers that filled the stat sheets. Can score, steal the ball, block shots, rebound, and pass the ball well. The only thing that is holding him back is injuries. Last year he averaged 15ppg 7.5rpg 2.5bpg 2spg 2apg.

2002: #28 Dan Dickau - Pick was traded to Atlanta, but Dickau has shown promise a couple years ago averaging 13ppg 5apg 3rpg and a steal. He was injured last year for the most part, and never really got off the ground, but this was another smart pick by Petrie.

2003: NO PICK

2004: #26 Kevin Martin - Could be the steal of the draft if he can continue to develop. You cannot bash this guy for anything. He is improving in his game every year, and has shown signs that he wants to improve. He is our SG of the future. He can defend, shoot, and go to the basket. He is a great FT shooter. As 6'7 shooting guard is hard to come by these days.

2005: #23 Francisco Garcia - Anotehr 6'7 SG that can play some point guard. Wirey frame like Martin. Can defend, shoot, and do pretty much anythgin we ask of him. Can play the 1-3. Shown signs of greatness before his late season injury. He is an above average rebounder/passer/shooter. If Martin doesn't work out I am sure he will be able to step in and play the SG. Another steal by Petrie.
 
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"The two most likely point guards to come the Kings' way are Spain's Sergio Rodríguez and UCLA's Jordan Farmar."

eek... wild, project-esque PGs who aren't really there on defense (Farmar's pretty good team defensively though), possibly being our back-up? I'd hope as a trade asset if so. If not, I don't know what the bloody hell were doing with our back-up PG spot. As you would think, we wouldn't get a vet. with Bibby/rookie/possibly Hart/Price on the roster aleady, and not using the rookie as an asset in this case.

Why not mention Lowry or Rondo? Surely Lowry should be available. Rondo I've heard both our area and not our area to pick, Lowry it's been much more to where we'll pick.
 
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^Or Douby or Diaz. The bench really lacked scoring punch this past season. Especially if Bonzi goes elsewhere the last thing the team needs is someone who can't score off the bench. I really like the idea of drafting a combo guard who can score in bunches rather than a traditional point guard who distributes. Let Garcia direct the offense and someone like Quincy Douby could score points as well as play defense.
 
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^Or Douby or Diaz. The bench really lacked scoring punch this past season. Especially if Bonzi goes elsewhere the last thing the team needs is someone who can't score off the bench. I really like the idea of drafting a combo guard who can score in bunches rather than a traditional point guard who distributes. Let Garcia direct the offense and someone like Quincy Douby could score points as well as play defense.
Indeed. Both are BPA-types, and would fill a need at the same time.

I especially like Diaz. Though most of that comes from watching Miami a lot this past season :).
 
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While I know we're thin at backup PG, and already log-jammed at forward, I wouldn't mind seeing the Kings target a defensive minded true PF/C to augment the new defensive scheme that's being created around Artest. Saer Sene sounds like a long term project. Hilton Armstrong anyone?

If the "new" Kings have any shot at success they will be scoring in the mid-80's to 90's and obviously holding oppoents below that number. Feels like there is a real defensive void in the middle.

So much I would assume depends on if Petrie can/wants to move SAR or KT, but neither seem to fit in the new system of play (SAR less so).
 

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2002: #28 Dan Dickau - Pick was traded to Atlanta, but Dickau has shown promise a couple years ago averaging 13ppg 5apg 3rpg and a steal. He was injured last year for the most part, and never really got off the ground, but this was another smart pick by Petrie.
I don't think you can give credit to Petrie for that one, since Atlanta told him who they wanted...

;)
 
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I think SAR is the most likely to stay due to his approach and contract. Seen, I agree about drafting a defensive big helping. I'm just not sure Armstrong will be there, and if he's not, don't know if Petrie goes for a Johnson/Sene when there are a ton of guards/wings available.
 

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So much I would assume depends on if Petrie can/wants to move SAR or KT, but neither seem to fit in the new system of play (SAR less so).
Uh, and what are you basing that on? Muss hasn't coached one player for one practice yet as coach of the Kings and has put together manuals of over 100 pages with players talents, plays the Kings ran, and plays he's ran in the past. Have you read these? Do you know which players are going to be traded/drafted yet? Have you spoken to him about his plans for the season? Do you know what schemes he is coming up with on offense and defence?

If so, we'd be intrigued by what information you have....
 
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The reality is, whoever is picked, unless a big man like Armstrong or maybe Sene, won't see much court time. I don't expect Jason Hart on the roster next season. He is expiring and some team will want his contract to get under the tax.
 
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VF: I didn't think about that lol.

As for Hart. I am not sure about that one. He does have an expiring contract but doesn't he make only $1,800,000? It's not really enough to warrant a trade based soley on the purpose of freeing up space. Now Williamson on the other hand makes almost 7mil. That's what teams are looking for.
 
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VF: I didn't think about that lol.

As for Hart. I am not sure about that one. He does have an expiring contract but doesn't he make only $1,800,000? It's not really enough to warrant a trade based soley on the purpose of freeing up space. Now Williamson on the other hand makes almost 7mil. That's what teams are looking for.
And you can combine Williams (6.5), Hart (1.8) and Potapenko (3.315) and have some $12 million of combined salary. That could get you a REALLY good player depending on the situation. Warriors got Davis for pretty much a bunch of expiring contracts.
 
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Uh, and what are you basing that on? Muss hasn't coached one player for one practice yet as coach of the Kings and has put together manuals of over 100 pages with players talents, plays the Kings ran, and plays he's ran in the past. Have you read these? Do you know which players are going to be traded/drafted yet? Have you spoken to him about his plans for the season? Do you know what schemes he is coming up with on offense and defence?

If so, we'd be intrigued by what information you have....
Yes, you've caught me. This is really Aileen Voison and to answer your questions...yes, yes, yes, and yes.

That being said, I don't think it takes an insider to realize that the Kings of last year were winning with a hustling defensive mind set, that Rick Adleman was let go because he is an offensive minded coach, that the Maloofs have indicated that they want a more defensive orientated team philosophy, and that they've hired a defensived minded coach in Musselman.

Think they'll be running the Princeton offense next year?
 

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Yes, you've caught me. This is really Aileen Voison and to answer your questions...yes, yes, yes, and yes.

That being said, I don't think it takes an insider to realize that the Kings of last year were winning with a hustling defensive mind set, that Rick Adleman was let go because he is an offensive minded coach, that the Maloofs have indicated that they want a more defensive orientated team philosophy, and that they've hired a defensived minded coach in Musselman.

Think they'll be running the Princeton offense next year?
I wasn't trying to "catch" anything.

If we were winning (and we were, lots of games) after the Artest trade with KT and SAR, why all of a sudden do they not fit? Should we upgrade? You bet, if we can. But if defense is the new focus, they might improve in that area based on schemes and practice. For example, Bibby said he did under Brown because of the coach's insistance, didn't he? Both KT and SAR did OK defensively last year when we got on a roll. Brad and Bibby were the two that were getting killed most often.

And what does any of this have to do with the Princeton offense? Neither of these guys will ever be mistaken for Webber in that respect....
 
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If we were winning (and we were, lots of games) after the Artest trade with KT and SAR, why all of a sudden do they not fit? Should we upgrade? You bet, if we can. But if defense is the new focus, they might improve in that area based on schemes and practice.
Agree with the first point, that if we can upgrade defensively in the middle we should. If you bring in a new, young forward then one of your two "starting" forwards needs to go as there aren't enough minutes for all. I think that KT is a better, quicker, more athletic player than SAR, and as such don't think SAR is as good a fit for a defensively focused team....Don't recall how much SAR contributed to the late season winning % with the busted jaw, either.

Totally disagree with the second point. Scheme and practice will take you only so far. You absolutely need physical ability and superior athletiscim to be a strong defensive team. SAR is not that. KT is closer, but undersized.

SAR is a better fit for the type of team Petrie thought he had going into last season -another passing/scoring jaugernaut. Just didn't work out that way.
 
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SAR can stay as a scorer off the bench and play some post-d down low. I think SAR came on slowly when he came back with his jaw wired shut, still wasn't at full strength but he was playing hard and had many nice games off the bench.
 
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Not to nitpick or anything, but they didn't actually run the Princeton offense that much in 2005-2006.
I think we should use big BOLD letters to point that out. We really didnt use it that much after the Webber trade, for the most part...the shift was apparent. Which is why I hate to see all these draft boards with their mocks that have us taking 'Spanish Chocolate', which is SOOO far away from what we are looking for, especially in a point guard, although a couple of them have changed their tune(not that I really care about these sites, its just funny to see what other people think we 'need'), Draft Express now has us taking Rondo, Hoops Hype has is taking Sene...which are both fine with me.
 
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I'm really impressed with Rondo. In fact, I picked him for the Pacers in the mock draft over at bleachermob. I think he's got two things a real point guard absolutely has to have - court vision AND quickness. The main complaint about him has been his shooting, but I think you can work on that. You cannot, however, work on court vision and slow is ... well, slow.

;)
 
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I'm really impressed with Rondo. In fact, I picked him for the Pacers in the mock draft over at bleachermob. I think he's got two things a real point guard absolutely has to have - court vision AND quickness. The main complaint about him has been his shooting, but I think you can work on that. You cannot, however, work on court vision and slow is ... well, slow.

;)
I agree on the athleticism, but if a point guard can't shoot their effectiveness can really be limited. TJ Ford and Brevin Knight are some of the quickest guys in recent basketball history, but they remain on the second or third tier of point guards because they can't shoot and people can sag off of them to contain their penetration.

And, except in very very rare instances, I don't believe you can teach shooting. By the time you're in college, shooting is something you either have or you don't.
 

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I'm not convinced the kid can't shoot. A lot of times poor shooting is because of poor habits. And I'm not even sure just how "poor" his poor shooting is...

He isn't perfect, by any means. If he was, there would be NO CHANCE at all of him being available at #19.

;)
 
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I'm not convinced the kid can't shoot. A lot of times poor shooting is because of poor habits. And I'm not even sure just how "poor" his poor shooting is...

He isn't perfect, by any means. If he was, there would be NO CHANCE at all of him being available at #19.

;)
But as Kevin Martin has shown, it's impossible to change bad form by the time someone is 20. Luckily Kevin Martin's ugly shot goes in pretty often.

You're absolutely right that no one is perfect at #19. To generalize greatly, there are three main qualities you want your point guard to have: passing/playmaking, scoring and defense. At #19 you're not going to get someone who has all three of those qualities, you're only going to get two out of three (or maybe even just one out of three). Rondo has passing/playmaking and defensive skills but limited offense.

But given how the bench performed (or rather didn't perform) last year, I think the team needs some scoring punch off the bench, so I'm in favor of the two out of three being scoring and defense. Hence my picks of Douby/Diaz/Brown.

So I guess it just depends on what you're looking for in a point guard. And a lot depends on how Musselman is going to run the offense. But given how well he utilized Gilbert Arenas I wonder if he'd be angling for the next Arenas in Quincy Douby, Guillermo Diaz or Shannon Brown.
 
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I think we should use big BOLD letters to point that out. We really didnt use it that much after the Webber trade, for the most part...the shift was apparent. Which is why I hate to see all these draft boards with their mocks that have us taking 'Spanish Chocolate', which is SOOO far away from what we are looking for, especially in a point guard, although a couple of them have changed their tune(not that I really care about these sites, its just funny to see what other people think we 'need'), Draft Express now has us taking Rondo, Hoops Hype has is taking Sene...which are both fine with me.
Agreed...

Hell, I don't get why anyone is wanting or picking Sergio on this team (as possibly our back-up PG), other than to be a trade asset. He simply does not fit or bring what we need in a PG. He's wild in how he plays and can't defend. We'd have no defense at PG, and Hart is uncertain if he's around or not. Also I think Ser-Rod has some project on him because of his style and experience, also could be left overseas.

Now, talking about Rondo's shot... yes, it's not there, yet. But, that does not mean he won't develop a jumpshot, there is plenty of time for that in the summers, camps, and pre-seasons of the future. Anyway, I'd still love to see us draft him or Lowry for a PG. Both are quick, can defend well, create, and score. For small guards in general, one of them or Diaz/Brown/Douby, would be just awesome. Especially if Armstrong's not available, and the uncertainity of whether we pick Sene or if he'll even be available.
 
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^Yeah, I agree on Rodriguez.

This is kind of a rare point guard class in that just about all of the point guard prospects play good defense. Rondo, Douby, Lowry, Diaz, Brown... with the exception of Farmar and Rodriguez they're all good defenders The group is very short on playmaking point guards, which is why a subpar athlete like Marcus Williams is getting so much attention. So why take a flyer on Rodriguez when he can't play defense?
 
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Indeed. I can only see Ser-Rod fitting on a team like Phoenix in a replacement for Nash down the line. But leave him overseas and/or send him to NBDL to develop, and get him into things 1-2 years after.
 
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So why take a flyer on Rodriguez when he can't play defense?
Nash can't play defense either, and he's won two consecutive MVP's. Rodriguez by all accounts is a spectacular basketball talent who plays the game like few others. I think he's more ready to contribute NOW then a lot of people are giving him credit for. If Petrie thinks that he's better than Douby/Lowry/Rondo/Diaz or whoever than he's probly going to take him.
 
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Nash can't play defense either, and he's won two consecutive MVP's. Rodriguez by all accounts is a spectacular basketball talent who plays the game like few others. I think he's more ready to contribute NOW then a lot of people are giving him credit for. If Petrie thinks that he's better than Douby/Lowry/Rondo/Diaz or whoever than he's probly going to take him.
Um, let me get this straight. Nash won the MVP while not playing defense, so now the Kings don't need their backup point guard to play defense?

And I trust Petrie, but it's not as if defense is the only hole in Rodriguez's game. He's also a suspect shooter and people don't know how his athleticism will translate to the next level.