Barnes reaches 2-year deal with Lakers

S***! And to think how much ish laker fans talk about this guy and now they're gonna hype him up like he's the next coming of Jesus Christ! Good pick up for them, damn...
 
i wonder why the kings didnt show any interest. i know he isnt the "shooter" we all want but we could use more depth at the guard position and he probably woulda given us a hometown discount. i kinda liked his scrappiness when he was here.
 
steelevt said:
i wonder why the kings didnt show any interest. i know he isnt the "shooter" we all want but we could use more depth at the guard position and he probably woulda given us a hometown discount. i kinda liked his scrappiness when he was here.
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He wanted to sign with a contender
 
SacKings7 said:
He wanted to sign with a contender
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no, he was gonna sign with toronto and thought about the cavs. not exactly championship material. he signed with a contender for less money. im guessing he woulda signed with his hometown team for less money also. somewhere between what the lakers and cavs woulda paid
 
How do the lakers keep signing these type of players with the team they have.

As someone already asked, how much money can they bloody spend? arn't they already at the max?
 
Boogie-havoc said:
How do the lakers keep signing these type of players with the team they have.

As someone already asked, how much money can they bloody spend? arn't they already at the max?
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Yeah, I have a basic understanding of how the system works but I haven't really figured that out yet. I know they can sign him, I'm just not sure how.
 
swisshh said:
He said on the Tony Bruno show it was always a dream of his to play for the Lakers. Made me cringe.
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When he first got in the NBA with us didn't he say it was always his dream to play for his hometown team and he was a kings fan growing up or something like that?
 
Kings Faithful said:
Yeah, I have a basic understanding of how the system works but I haven't really figured that out yet. I know they can sign him, I'm just not sure how.
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He signed for way below market value. That's how. Again, I think the NBA needs to somehow change things with the way players are signing way under market value, to play on these "Super" teams. It's making the entire season a joke. We already know it's going to be Heat vs. Lakers in the Finals. The only thing preventing it, is an act of God, or CP3 going to the Orlando Magic.
 
Here is a message from Barnes, who has obviously been putting basketball second to his work in the medical field this summer and has also expressed his long time attraction to #24. From his twitter:

"Its official I AM A LOS ANGLES LAKER. I wanna thank u for all ur patients and understanding. This is a dream come true!!! Good lookn Kobe,"
 
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Lakers gave half there vet minimum to theo ratliff and the other half to matt barnes. They also signed steve blake a few weeks ago. They are better than last year. I read on jim crandells twitter the kings are in negotiatons to sign g/f antoine wright.
 
Boogie-havoc said:
How do the lakers keep signing these type of players with the team they have.

As someone already asked, how much money can they bloody spend? arn't they already at the max?
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It's an NBA-wide thing, trust. Most teams right now aren't willing to ante up as most teams are losing money.

It appears that they signed Ratliff w/ the vet min and Blake/Barnes with split parts of the mid-level exception, which is around 5-6 mill. The MLE is available to any team over the cap on a yearly basis (unless and until they do away with it in Summer '11). It's still difficult to sign two players as decent as Blake and Barnes w/ partial MLE money, but Barnes was a pretty lucky bounce. Blake's yearly total is similar to what he's been earning with other teams.

Teams are allowed to exceed the cap in order to resign their own veteran FAs, which explains Fisher's deal and Odom, Gasol, Bynum in previous years. Artest was an MLE signing. You can use the MLE to resign your own FAs as well. Kupchak has done that w/ Devean George, Sasha, and Puke. He's also used it to acquire Divac and Radmanovic. In other words, the MLE can either be a good thing or a very bad thing.
 
Anthony1 said:
He signed for way below market value. That's how.
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He got market value ($1.7 and 1.9 over 2 yrs). It was Toronto that tried to go over market value. He's one of the last players, it seems, who have gotten market value throughout their entire career. If you're going to be a non-superstar, it pays to be a 4 or a 5.

2004-05 Sacramento Kings NBA $695,046
2005-06 Philadelphia 76ers NBA $552,269
2005-06 New York Knicks NBA $131,593
2006-07 Golden State Warriors NBA $771,331
2007-08 Golden State Warriors NBA $3,000,000
2008-09 Phoenix Suns NBA $926,678
2009-10 Orlando Magic NBA $1,600,000
 
It's funny to me how when Lakers have the bench they have, and all these roleplayers and obviusly above normal team, that other teams couldn't get even if they tried isn't talked when people bash Lebron and the heat.

For me it's exactly the same thing.
 
The stockpiling by the Lakers and Heat will remind enough fans of MLB's faux "competition" to rob what public opinion ground the players had, even though the owners are involved in this, too. My question is does Stern care about things like that or does he care more about keeping teams financially afloat instead of evening the basketball playing field? Fans are talking franchise-tags, but Stern is talking revenue sharing.
 
Boogie-havoc said:
It's funny to me how when Lakers have the bench they have, and all these roleplayers and obviusly above normal team, that other teams couldn't get even if they tried isn't talked when people bash Lebron and the heat.

For me it's exactly the same thing.
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People don't seem to be bashing the Heat, they're bashing LeBron. Bron is not comparable to Barnes. Not only that, but Miami ain't exactly Utah...they have a healthy advantage over much of the league as far as the intangibles that young lads enjoy. Miami as a town was a selling point in its own right.
 
swisshh said:
The stockpiling by the Lakers and Heat will remind enough fans of MLB's faux "competition" to rob what public opinion ground the players had, even though the owners are involved in this, too. My question is does Stern care about things like that or does he care more about keeping teams financially afloat instead of evening the basketball playing field? Fans are talking franchise-tags, but Stern is talking revenue sharing.
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One glaring problem that I see is that Dr. Buss is actually pretty prudent with his money compared to most of these jagoff owners around the league. With the exception of Kwame, the worst contracts he's agreed to have been just MLE mistakes. He's not about to give 100 mill to Joe Johnson, e.g. In the last 20 yrs, he dumped Eddie Jones, Caron Butler, and Trevor Ariza instead of overpaying them. Jones and Caron were lottery picks.

If the goal is to even the playing field, Stern alredy blew it by adding on too many franchises that can't self-sustain. Memphis giving Pau away for an expiring contract is the end result of Stern desperately wanting to put a franchise in Vancouver, which in less than a decade was moved to another city that struggles to support it.
 
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Oh lord jesus. A 7akers fan is using the word prudent as a way to describe Jerry buss's 90+ million dollar team payroll. SMH!!!
 
Mad D said:
Here is a message from Barnes, who has obviously been putting basketball second to his work in the medical field this summer and has also expressed his long time attraction to #24. From his twitter:

"Its official I AM A LOS ANGLES LAKER. I wanna thank u for all ur patients and understanding. This is a dream come true!!! Good lookn Kobe,"
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Patients!? Lmao!
 
I heard on the radio that Matt turned down a 7 million/year deal from the Cavaliers in order to take this 3.5 million/year deal from the Lakers.
 
swisshh said:
He said on the Tony Bruno show it was always a dream of his to play for the Lakers. Made me cringe.
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And yet the VERY PROMINENT tattoo on his leg says "Sactown finest"... That's the only chuckle I'll get out of this whole deal. Seeing that displayed during every Lakers game. LOL!

Hrm...I wonder if they'll make him cover it or have it removed????
 
Gargamel said:
People don't seem to be bashing the Heat, they're bashing LeBron. Bron is not comparable to Barnes. Not only that, but Miami ain't exactly Utah...they have a healthy advantage over much of the league as far as the intangibles that young lads enjoy. Miami as a town was a selling point in its own right.
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No, people are bashing the Heat and the system that allows them to fill their roster with veteran free agents after spending all their cap on four players. This is no different.

It's also funny how you somehow justify the Lakers landing Matt Barnes when there were reportedly at least two other teams offering him more money. I'm not one of the people arguing that a veteran taking less money to play for a contender is destroying the fabric of the space/time continuum, but it's plainly obvious that Matt Barnes to the Lakers is no different than any of the veteran free agents that signed with Miami for the minimum. It's the same thing the Lakers tried to convince Raja Bell to do. It's the same game.
 
Chupacabra said:
Oh lord jesus. A 7akers fan is using the word prudent as a way to describe Jerry buss's 90+ million dollar team payroll. SMH!!!
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Why not? You have to pay to win titles and they have 4 guys with a high market value at the time of their extensions. Pretending that you can win just one title, much less multiple, while remaining under the cap is quite hopeful, because #1, you need at least one superstar to be in serious contention, and they don't come cheap. I can see your point if you are talking about the Knicks of recent past. Buss is one of the remaining owners who stays in the black every year. He also made bank while riding Kobe for 3 yrs while giving him cheap dreck for teammates, so he knows when to dial it down as expectations lower (that was after he pulled the ripcord on Shaq's contract). When they stop winning titles, watch the belt tighten. The last time that happened, Golden State's great front office turned Fisher into a 5 million dollar player and gave Turiaf (a tweener 3/4) a $3.7 million pay raise. Wink.

What he's doing now is maxing out the situation at hand. The alternative would be Sarver doing something cheap each year when Phx's window was open. It eventually bit them in the arse.
 
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TheFifthMookie said:
I heard on the radio that Matt turned down a 7 million/year deal from the Cavaliers in order to take this 3.5 million/year deal from the Lakers.
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Kingsfan favorite Rick Fox did the same thing back in 97. He actually turned down a much stupider offer by the Cavs than Barnes. Cleveland must be as bad as they say.
 
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