Attn: Sacramento Residents

pilot305

G-League
Hi everyone! This arena deal is now in your hands. If this proposal doesn't pass in November, than you can't blame the Maloofs for wanting to move the team (Las Vegas..........how about Spokane!---thats were I live now). I was born and raised in Sacramento and I know for a fact how great the people are in Sac-Town. You guys deserve this team. Considering how expensive it is to live down there, a quater-cent tax increase is a drop in the bucket. Trust me, the politicians would find another excuse to increase taxes anyhow.

Our taxes up here have nearly doubled in the last 3 to 4 years. I understand the pain of tax increases but come on, it's the SACRAMENTO KINGS!!!! I can't see them anywhere else and i know most of you think the same way.

Just my thoughts

"""Fight!! Fight!! Fight!!! for Del Oro High!! Best in the golden west!!"""

Peace my brothers,
pilot305
 
Hi everyone! This arena deal is now in your hands. If this proposal doesn't pass in November, than you can't blame the Maloofs for wanting to move the team (Las Vegas..........how about Spokane!---thats were I live now). I was born and raised in Sacramento and I know for a fact how great the people are in Sac-Town. You guys deserve this team. Considering how expensive it is to live down there, a quater-cent tax increase is a drop in the bucket. Trust me, the politicians would find another excuse to increase taxes anyhow.

Our taxes up here have nearly doubled in the last 3 to 4 years. I understand the pain of tax increases but come on, it's the SACRAMENTO KINGS!!!! I can't see them anywhere else and i know most of you think the same way.

Just my thoughts

"""Fight!! Fight!! Fight!!! for Del Oro High!! Best in the golden west!!"""

Peace my brothers,
pilot305


this is www.kingsfans.com

not www.pessimistsacramentoresidents.com

Nice post but I doubt that anyone visiting a fan site about the Kings is against a deal that will save their team. To me, this is just like someone trying to convince people that "guns are good" at an NRA meeting. It's the close-minded anti-pro sports people living in Sacramento that have a chance to kill this project, not the ones that love the Kings , visit their website, and want to see them stay.

I am in no way shape or form affected by this arena deal, but I sure hope you guys get it. It would be a shame to strip the best fans in the NBA of their team. Since Ive never been to Sacramento, what are the main problems with Arco that are forcing the chance? Silly question maybe, but I come from Eastern Canada. Seating capacity? Stadium Location? Too old? Too ugly?

I hope the new arena has the same "ambiance" and atmosphere. Anyone else has that fear? Anyways, best of luck on this arena project!

GO KINGS
 
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Very first annual graduating class at JFK HS in south Sacramento. (1968)

GO COUGARS! (My bro later played on the varsity basketball team.)
 
I am in no way shape or form affected by this arena deal, but I sure hope you guys get it. It would be a shame to strip the best fans in the NBA of their team. Since Ive never been to Sacramento, what are the main problems with Arco that are forcing the chance? Silly question maybe, but I come from Eastern Canada. Seating capacity? Stadium Location? Too old? Too ugly?

There are numerous problems with the arena, well documented over the years.

It has a smallish floor space for larger events (monster trucks, circus, motocross, etc).

The foundations of the structure, while sound for the existing structure, are not capable of supporting a remodeling project that will impose additional loading on them.

There is a long turnaround time between certain types of events, especially with ice-related ones. This limits the number of events you can hold over a certain time frame due to turnaround time.

The roof has been prone to leaks, including one instance where a Kings game was delayed to fix it.

There is only one concourse, with few amenities and little room to move around.

Long lines due to lack of eating facilities.

Locker rooms are among the smallest and least comfortable in the league.

The list goes on and on. You can see more here (including a handy graphic with some details at the bottom):

http://www.sacbee.com/content/news/arena/story/12974798p-13821810c.html

Some quotes:

Cheap folding chairs and an absence of lockers give the visitors' locker room at Arco Arena a shabby look. The Kings' locker room, while much nicer, is still spartan compared with those of other NBA teams.

Bobby Hernreich, a minority owner for the Kings, acknowledges that such fans present a ticklish situation for the organization. How do they honor the iconic stature that Arco carries in the community while at the same time pushing for a state-of-the-art facility?


"The public likes Arco; it's familiar and it brings them closer to the action, " Hernreich said. "But the truth is, Arco is impractical. A 450,000-square-foot arena in this day and age doesn't work. The optimum size is almost twice as big."


Compared to modern arenas, he said, the facility is small, the layout awkward, the seats uncomfortable and poorly placed, the concourses narrow, the kitchen too cramped, the amenities too few - problems he argues can't be fixed with piecemeal renovations.

Stern has said several times that Arco soon will be obsolete, and that the Kings need a state-of-the-art arena if they're to stay in Sacramento.

While fans might love Arco, they would find that modern facilities offer far more amenities, according to the architects. They're more like upscale shopping plazas, with an array of stores, a wide choice of restaurants and hopping after-hours clubs.


To speed customers through food lines, new arenas have a cash register for every 100 to 111 seats, according to 360's comparison. At Arco, the ratio is 1-to-307. Arco has fewer suites than state-of-the-art arenas and no high-priced club seats. It also lags in restroom capacity.


There's one eight-burner stove in the kitchen. While the newer arenas have several wide concourses, Arco has one relatively narrow passage, made more cramped by portable food and souvenir booths.

Arco's auditorium design is also obsolete, Heinlein and Schrock said. Sight lines for lower-level seats are often obscured because the rise between one row and the next is not high enough. There's less seating for disabled people than would be required in a new arena.


Arco's "completely outdated" ice system requires two days to make a sheet of ice, Schrock said. That's made it impossible to lure a hockey team and difficult to hold ice-related events, according to John Thomas, president of Maloof Sports and Entertainment.


Howard said the average modern arena has more than 80 luxury suites and thousands of club seats. Between 1985 and 1994, the average arena (in 2003 dollars) cost $150 million. By comparison, arenas built between 1995 and 2003 cost an average of $223 million (in 2003 dollars).


In discussions about replacing Arco, the Kings owners have said they want an "NBA standard" venue with wider seats and more shopping and dining options. They propose more seats - 18,000 from 17,317 - as well as 5,000 club or VIP seats and at least 55 luxury suites. They've indicated they think a new facility would cost about $400 million.


Whether fans see the need or not, the issue isn't going away, according to Chamber of Commerce President Matt Mahood. A chamber-led panel concluded last year that Arco has five years of useful life remaining. Mahood said that message has yet to be absorbed by the public.


"Maloof Sports has done such a great job of customer service that any problems with Arco are hidden pretty well," Mahood said.

The Bee's Terri Hardy can be reached at (916) 321-1073 or thardy@sacbee.com.
Published 2:15 am PDT Sunday, May 29, 2005
 
this is www.kingsfans.com

not www.pessimistsacramentoresidents.com

Nice post but I doubt that anyone visiting a fan site about the Kings is against a deal that will save their team. To me, this is just like someone trying to convince people that "guns are good" at an NRA meeting.

GO KINGS


Hey dude, i'm just venting. :rolleyes: Maybe no one in this forum is opposed (or maybe there is?) to it but i had to just let out my feelings about it. There is such a thing as being a Kings fan but not want your taxes raised because of them.

Long live the SACRAMENTO Kings!! :cool:
 
Having been to the Pepsi Center in Colorado several times, I can't wait until Sacto has the new arena. Can't wait to finally be able to find my seat with ease. Can't wait to have food courts, with many food varieties, ALL over the arena, not just here and there. As for the restrooms, I don't recall the lines being too bad at the current location.
 
I can't wait to be able to walk on a CONCOURSE upstairs without having to worry about a stampede should something occur.

And I can't wait to be able to buy something at half time without having to go all the way back downstairs.

And I can't wait...

Well, bottom line? I can't wait to know that my beloved Kings are going to be in Sacramento for the next 30 years!!!

:D
 
Hey dude, i'm just venting. :rolleyes: Maybe no one in this forum is opposed (or maybe there is?) to it but i had to just let out my feelings about it. There is such a thing as being a Kings fan but not want your taxes raised because of them.

Long live the SACRAMENTO Kings!! :cool:

Don't worry about it, pilot305. Letting your feeling out is one the things we all do around here once in a while.

It's all good.

Hopefully you'll be able to take a drive down to Sacramento in September 2010 and see the NEW arena!

:)
 
When I think about the situation we have here with the arena, I think about Foxboro Stadium where the New England Patriots used to play. Lots of memories from the stadium but way outdated. I was watching a story on the stadium where they said that if everybody flushed the urinals and toilets at the same time, the water system would malfuntion. Hey, it didnt affect them, last game at foxboro was a classic, and they won championships with there new stadium built.
 
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